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Old 01-08-2016   #81
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M4-P new
M6 new
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21/2.8 demo but first owner

Such a long time ago....

All rehomed now.

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Old 01-08-2016   #82
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Elitist Bottom Feeders

So we are aging elitist bottom feeders? yours FPJ
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Old 01-08-2016   #83
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So we are aging elitist bottom feeders? yours FPJ
Not sure I'd call us that, I've spent a LOT more on other RF stuff and a bit of that was used Leica gear.

At this point in time Leica doesn't make anything I want to invest that much money into.

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Old 01-08-2016   #84
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One new lens.

Otherwise used.
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Old 01-08-2016   #85
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Elmarit-m 28mm 2.8 asph lens, purchased new, soon after it was released. It made for a very nice combo when paired with the CLE. Long since sold. My first and presumably my last purchase of a new Leica product.
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Old 01-08-2016   #86
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Old 01-08-2016   #87
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I bought a used Leica M8 that was a Code U from Leica that had been a Leica reps camera. My local camera store and Leica dealer got it for me. It was refurbished and came with a new warranty. It was like new. I saved about $2,500.00 to $3,000.00 by doing that. No way would I buy a new one since they are just out of my price range. I have always bought good used Leica gear and only a couple of older lenses. - jim
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Old 01-08-2016   #88
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I bought my M6 new in 1986. A few years later I bought a 90mm Elmarit-M but sold it recently in favour of a Tele-Elmarit because I prefer smaller lenses (and like to stay with one filter size).

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Old 01-09-2016   #89
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Yes, in 1985: M6, 35 Summicron, 90 Thin Tele-Elmarit (all else below in sig, used)
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Old 01-09-2016   #90
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Bought New:
M6
M7 .85
M7 .58
M7 .72
M8 (two)
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50 'Cron
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I'm sure I'm forgetting something.

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Old 01-10-2016   #91
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Well, if I were alive in the 30s and 40s I'd buy new, but frankly I find M and Later Leicas about as visually appealing as an old East German government building. Leica, as I see it, peaked in 1938
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Old 01-10-2016   #92
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I neved did. And I don't see myself doing it anytime soon. All used from decente dealers:

Leica Shop Vienna
M6 Classic + 50mm Elmar-M

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Old 01-10-2016   #94
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I'm not buying new. Any camera, lens maker. Makes no sense financially.
My M4-2 does exactly the same for me as brand new film M something will do.
I also believe what esthetically camera has to match with lens.
For example, I could buy new Ultron, but most likely going to get Canadian Cron for M4-2. Or I could sell like new Bessa T with perfectly matching almost like new 25 F4 M. And buy Canadian Lux for the price of new German Summarit...

Wait!!! I purchased new Holga Pan 135
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Old 01-10-2016   #95
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M8, M6, Cron-M 50, Cron-M 90, Elmar-R 180, Summitar 5cm, C2

Formerly: Digilux-2, Cron-R 50, Cron-R 35, Elmarit-R 35...


None of those I bought new.
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Old 02-01-2016   #96
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Yes.
Three Leica bodies and one lens.
A chrome M6 in early 1990s and a black M6 .85 in the late 1990s and a matching 50mm f2.8 Elmar. Also a MiniLux. I guess that would be a lens and a body?

Everything else has been used.
I got a 85mm f1.5 (actually the first thing I ever got).
Shortly after, the chrome body, then I got a 35mm 1.4 Summilux.
These, with the .85 vf M6, worked well for me for quite a long time. And in fact, still do to this day.

I used a new MiniLux (40mm lens) with them. This was stolen. It was a great little point & shoot camera with a very quiet shutter. Still have the box for some reason...

Regarding buying new for work and the warranty:
A couple years later while working outside all week, one day the black M6 got it's shutter burned through by the sun.

I sent it to Leica under their Passport Warranty and they repaired it for free.
I still have the original boxes and receipt for the repair.

Regarding resale and used market value:
New the M6 .85 cost almost $2000. $1895. or something like that.
The used 85mm cost about $1200. as I recall.
So if I was going to sell these two what do you think the profit or loss would be? Used but no brass showing condition. The camera base plate still has the clear plastic that it came with. So it's probably not even scratched under there.

Do you think Leica cameras and lenses have a reputation for being tough and dependable? If so perhaps that would add value. Which may translate to justifying higher prices.
My gear has been drop onto concrete floors, kicked, etc. I used to take pictures at clubs and some of the bands had some aggressive fans. Once my sister accidentally knocked the .85 from a table onto the hard floor when we were attending a wedding of a mutual friend. It landed on the lens (the 35mm Summilux) and sort of caved in/ bent the vented aluminum hood. I gently bent it back out of the way to round(ish) and kept on shooting. Did not affect the camera or lens as far as I could tell. Now I look at the slight wave in the hood and laugh. What if that had been a camera and lens with more plastic parts? Electronics and micro motors?

I eventually sold the chrome M6 and the black 50mm.

A few years ago I picked up a 135 f2.8 and I also have a 50mm collapsible Summicron (LSM).
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One new lens. Summarit 35 2.5. But once I took it out of the box, it is not new anymore...
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I always buy bodies new. Except of course old collectible ones.Lenses mostly as well, but I don't mind a used one. after all, many nice lenses are not in the catalog any more.
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Old 02-01-2016   #99
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Can't afford to. All my Leica bodies and lenses were bought used, and they are all vintage or older models, nothing newish.
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I bought a new Leica M6 and 35mm Summicron V4 in the nineties...foolishly sold them some years later. It's all been used Leica since then.
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Old 02-01-2016   #101
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Lux 50 a couple of years ago.
I use it mainly on a fuji x-pro1 (handles much faster in manual in very dark environments than any of the fuji lenses).
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Old 02-01-2016   #102
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I have 11 lenses which are used with the above. None are Leicas. Some (Hex M's) were bought (new) before my first Leica purchase and i haven't seen any reason to "upgrade?" them. I would love to own the 50 1.4 Lux though just to find out what all the hoopla is about this lens. Haven't felt any need to upgrade from the M-E to the M 240 but would love to buy a new MP film body. In fact i would buy the MP long before splashing new money on the 50 Lux.
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Old 02-01-2016   #103
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Old 02-04-2016   #104
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Used everything. That said, there was one small purchase. I bought a brand hood for a 35 'Cron once from a Leica store, I needed it and happened to be passing. Bought on a whim. That was it. No wonder they have to sell new stuff for such high prices, their stuff from decades ago is often just as good as anything new and so everybody keeps buying that instead!
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Within the past 10 years: D-Lux 3 D-Lux 4 D-Lux 6.

More than 10 years ago: (OK, more than 20 years ago--make it 30-- OK, OK, it was in the 1960's): M2; 35mm Summaron; 90mm Elmarit. I still have them.
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Old 02-07-2016   #107
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I've bought a few new items. No regrets with any of them.

More than 10 years ago
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  • M6 TTL - in 1999
My first Leica and I thought it would be my last. Boy what a slippery slope I entered into with this one.
Within the last 10 years:
  • M8 & 28mm Summicron-M - When discounted in 2008
This combo is still my favorite "35mm" walkabout setup. Absolutely love it.
  • 75mm APO-Summicron-M - in 2014
This one is the crazy one:
  • 50mm APO-Summicron-M in 2014
Still happy to have it and remain amazed I found the nerve to pull the trigger and buy it!
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Old 02-07-2016   #108
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Leica M-E purchased new April last year.
35mm f/2.5 Summarit purchased new in August 2013.
50mm f/2 Summicron purchased new in October 2015.

The rest of my Leica gear was purchased used.
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Old 02-10-2016   #109
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I can't afford a new Leica. I had the M4-P, IIIc and M2. Even the used digital models are outside of my price range. I did spend $2K on a Summilux once though. I would simply not buy a digital Leica. Older film models last forever. You can always fix an M2, no matter what. If it gets destroyed, well, you lose $600, not $6K. I had my Fuji X100S break after 5K shots.. Leicas do that too sometimes. The sensor will get bad and you have an expensive paper weight. If they were more like $3K, I might save up and get one, but not for more. I would need to be much richer to risk buying such an expensive digital camera. There are other digital cameras out there just as good and costing half the price. For film though, Leica is it.

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There are other digital cameras out there just as good and costing half the price. For film though, Leica is it.
There are plenty of film alternatives for any Leica, although you may need to buy used. The only alternative for digital M cameras is the Epson R-D1.

Preferences are a different matter, of course.
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Guilty admission

Have to admit, most of my purchases are for new Leica lenses. Will buy used, of course, mostly when no longer available new. Just got a new 50mm Apo Summicron M. But also just got a used 75mm Apo Summicron M - price was just too good.
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I purchased a used Leica body over 10-years ago.
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New: 50mm cron v5.

And also my very first Leica purchase. Considering that I use this one quite a lot, I should have just bought a used one.
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Three new lenses had to go back for faults. Several second hand lenses have all been good. The only new body I bought had to go back twice to have its rangefinder finally put right, and the second hand older body has been fantastic from the beginning.
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