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Old 12-29-2016   #561
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The ScanMate 5000 datasheet says that the dimensions of the scanner are 840 x 410 x 340 mm (wxhxd). Can someone confirm these measurements?
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Old 01-06-2017   #562
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Drum for scanmate 5000

Hello, greetings from Hungary.
I need help.
I bought scanmate 5000 scanner but the drum is in very poor condition.
Not usable.
I would like to find a drum.
Please help.
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Old 01-07-2017   #563
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i bought a while ago my ScanMate 11000. Now i tried to scan a 16 bit negative without conversion in CQ 5.0 .
The File Format is Tiff RGB 16bit. The negative is a 6x4,5 color negative and i tried to scan in the highest resolution 11000.
I have read here that there is a bug so that i can use only 10500 pixel per line.

So i have tried to scan in slices with a maximum of 20 mm vertically.
But after some time, i think around 60% i got an error.

Error no 1847 DtoNormalizestream - SVRead FileProcfailure.

if i scan the slice horizontally the error would not appear but my images where damaged because of the bug.

Does anybody know this problem.

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Old 01-07-2017   #564
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Hello
i bought a while ago my ScanMate 11000. Now i tried to scan a 16 bit negative without conversion in CQ 5.0 .
The File Format is Tiff RGB 16bit. The negative is a 6x4,5 color negative and i tried to scan in the highest resolution 11000.
I have read here that there is a bug so that i can use only 10500 pixel per line.

So i have tried to scan in slices with a maximum of 20 mm vertically.
But after some time, i think around 60% i got an error.

Error no 1847 DtoNormalizestream - SVRead FileProcfailure.

if i scan the slice horizontally the error would not appear but my images where damaged because of the bug.

Does anybody know this problem.

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Hello, greetings from Hungary.
I need help.
I bought scanmate 5000 scanner but the drum is in very poor condition.
Not usable.
I would like to find a drum.
Please help.
Thank you.
there is was one here in Poland i could ask how much the person is asking
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Old 01-07-2017   #565
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there is was one here in Poland i could ask how much the person is asking
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Old 01-08-2017   #566
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Hello
i bought a while ago my ScanMate 11000. Now i tried to scan a 16 bit negative without conversion in CQ 5.0 .
The File Format is Tiff RGB 16bit. The negative is a 6x4,5 color negative and i tried to scan in the highest resolution 11000.
I have read here that there is a bug so that i can use only 10500 pixel per line.

So i have tried to scan in slices with a maximum of 20 mm vertically.
But after some time, i think around 60% i got an error.

Error no 1847 DtoNormalizestream - SVRead FileProcfailure.

if i scan the slice horizontally the error would not appear but my images where damaged because of the bug.

Does anybody know this problem.

Thanks
It's not a bug. It's a hardware limitation, scanmates buffer can only handle 10500px at 16bit. You need to be careful not to go over it or the files will be messed up.

This limit only applies vertically on the drum, and horizontally in the preview. The scanner scans the image line by line, so one line can only be as large as the scanner's buffer.
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Old 01-08-2017   #567
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For those of you that might experiment problems with colorperfect similar to the ones i experimented (see previous posts). I uninstalled photoshop and installed it back and everything is working fine. Dont know what happened, but this procedure solved it.
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Old 01-08-2017   #568
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Thank you monkey fist

I think i solved the problem. I reinstalled QC and now everything works at least at my last two scans.

Does anybody know where i can get a copy of ColorTrio for Mac OS9.

It is missing in my Copy of CQ 5.2 and every copy i found on the web was for different OSīs or where faulty.

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Thank you monkey fist

I think i solved the problem. I reinstalled QC and now everything works at least at my last two scans.

Does anybody know where i can get a copy of ColorTrio for Mac OS9.

It is missing in my Copy of CQ 5.2 and every copy i found on the web was for different OSīs or where faulty.

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Wasnīt ColorTrio a windows software? If you got CQ, you don't need ColorTrio, it's 8bit only software anyhow.
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No there was a version for mac.
I donīt know if there was a specific one for os9 or only OS X
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I saw on this blog, the really cool mod from netsoft2k with the ir cut of filter.
I found this one on eBay

http://www.ebay.de/itm/191875149656?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Is it possible to mount such filter directly in front of the halogen lamp on my Scanmate 11000?
Is these one also so effektive as the mentioned one?
How do i profile / calibrate the scanner for negative in 16bit Tiff RGB.

I would try out the way like mentioned. Scanning in 16bit Tiff RGB with a correct profile then convert it in ColorNeg.

Questions over Questions ; )

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I saw on this blog, the really cool mod from netsoft2k with the ir cut of filter.
I found this one on eBay

http://www.ebay.de/itm/191875149656?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Is it possible to mount such filter directly in front of the halogen lamp on my Scanmate 11000?
Is these one also so effektive as the mentioned one?
How do i profile / calibrate the scanner for negative in 16bit Tiff RGB.

I would try out the way like mentioned. Scanning in 16bit Tiff RGB with a correct profile then convert it in ColorNeg.

Questions over Questions ; )

Thanks

Franz
I think the IR/UV filter degrades because of the heat, so placing it directly in front of the lamp would probably destroy it pretty fast. The lamp gets really hot.

You need an IT8 target for calibration, if you get one.. make sure you are getting the reference file with it. Without it, it's useless.

CQ has calibration process for IT8 targets. So you can use CQ to create the profile.
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Old 01-11-2017   #573
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PMT gain adjust do the trick too.
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Old 01-12-2017   #574
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Hi, I polished the scratched drum. It looks amazing but the software (color trio) says after focus calibration: "could not adjust focus on the selected area, try another place on the image"
I suspect, the focus distance changed after polish.
Can I switch the focus manually?
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Old 01-12-2017   #575
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Haze is gone? Use marker to catch focus on the drum (remove with ethyl alcohol).
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I think the IR/UV filter degrades because of the heat, so placing it directly in front of the lamp would probably destroy it pretty fast. The lamp gets really hot.

You need an IT8 target for calibration, if you get one.. make sure you are getting the reference file with it. Without it, it's useless.

CQ has calibration process for IT8 targets. So you can use CQ to create the profile.
Thank you for the hint with the lamp!

Does it work with a negative it8 target too?
I only know it8 targets for slide film
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PMT gain adjust do the trick too.
Hi jzagaja

how do i perform a gain adjust

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Old 01-12-2017   #578
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Hi, I polished the scratched drum. It looks amazing but the software (color trio) says after focus calibration: "could not adjust focus on the selected area, try another place on the image"
I suspect, the focus distance changed after polish.
Can I switch the focus manually?
Wow
How do you polish such a hazed drum? I have a scratched spare one to polish.

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If you see color cast in shadows it means one of the tube is weak (soft cant balance it) - use potentiometer one or two turns on color that dominates and you can see difference.
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Old 01-12-2017   #580
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Yes, haze gone!
The CT focus calibration catch the mark from the drum, but the b&w positives are still out of focus.
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Wow
How do you polish such a hazed drum? I have a scratched spare one to polish.

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I found an old master. He worked 2 days on.
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Yes, haze gone!
The CT focus calibration catch the mark from the drum, but the b&w positives are still out of focus.
Slide positives.
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Old 01-12-2017   #583
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You will need to focus on the negative. Select a small area with high contrast like a line or film markings on the edes.
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You will need to focus on the negative. Select a small area with high contrast like a line or film markings on the edes.
Doesn't work.
It seems the lens distance has changed.
Possible?
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Yes it's possible because the focus motor only moves the lens a small distance.

Did it work before polishing? I ask because failed focus can be a result of many other things.
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Yes it's possible because the focus motor only moves the lens a small distance.

Did it work before polishing? I ask because failed focus can be a result of many other things.
Yes, I tested with the scratched drum. The focus was perfect.
Then I delivered with my car a bumpy ride to home.
After I didn't tested, the drum goest to polishing.
After polishing out of focus.
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Try emulsion out.
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Try emulsion out.
I tried, the problem is same. With reflection too.
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Hi, I find the problem.
The scratches was too deep and we polished too much. 1mm.
The film far from the lens and the scanner can't focusing.
The conclusion: I need a new drum!
Please let me know if anyone knows a drum for sale.
Thank you.
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where are you located?
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Thank you for the hint with the lamp!

Does it work with a negative it8 target too?
I only know it8 targets for slide film
There are no it8 targets for negative film. The idea is that if you use any transmissive it8 to make yourself a profile, you can use it on your negative scans. The negative will have more accurate colors this way. You know, red is red even on a negative until you make it into a positive.

Basically same idea if you would make a profile for the reflected scanning, anything you scan on it will then have correct colors. Just that positive it8 targets took this a step further when every film had separate IT8 targets for perfect output.

Overall it's always good to have a profile for the hardware, otherwise it's hard to convert the file into any other profile like for editing, paper profile for printing or for web.
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Old 01-19-2017   #593
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Dear Members,
I am still searching a drum for scanmate 5000.
Please help.
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Old 01-21-2017   #594
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Dear Members,
I am still searching a drum for scanmate 5000.
Please help.
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It seems that you have to buy a second ScanMate with a drum in a better condition Can you upload a picture of the polished drum?
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There are no it8 targets for negative film. The idea is that if you use any transmissive it8 to make yourself a profile, you can use it on your negative scans. The negative will have more accurate colors this way. You know, red is red even on a negative until you make it into a positive.

Basically same idea if you would make a profile for the reflected scanning, anything you scan on it will then have correct colors. Just that positive it8 targets took this a step further when every film had separate IT8 targets for perfect output.

Overall it's always good to have a profile for the hardware, otherwise it's hard to convert the file into any other profile like for editing, paper profile for printing or for web.
Thank you for your answer!
So if i understand you right, i can use my it8 Target letīs say from a Velvia Slide to profile the Scanner for using this profile as a standard for negative scanning.
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Thank you for your answer!
So if i understand you right, i can use my it8 Target letīs say from a Velvia Slide to profile the Scanner for using this profile as a standard for negative scanning.
Ideally profiling will make the scanner output match the original's colours. While profiling for a positive won't help with the orange mask of the negative, it will reproduce it more faithfully, which in theory should make the inversion proces easier. I highly doubt you'll notice much of a difference in practise though, but would be glad to be proven wrong.
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http://www.hutchcolor.com/PDF/Cneg.pdf
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Hi, I find the problem.
The scratches was too deep and we polished too much. 1mm.
The film far from the lens and the scanner can't focusing.
The conclusion: I need a new drum!
Please let me know if anyone knows a drum for sale.
Thank you.
Try stick to the drum thick polycarbonate film and then negative film.
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An idea for killing wetmount - install holographic diffuser (LSD) at the end of light tube so that light spot will be maximally diffused thus hide scratches
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Hello!

I just joined RFF and am very interested in drum scanners. I just picked up an SM5k and trying to get it all calibrated and ready to scan.

@NetSoft2k Pali is a good friend of mine, who's been instrumental in this journey (e.g. hurting my pocket book bahaha).

Look forward to it!
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