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Old 10-27-2013   #1
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sony rx10?

looks impressive…no?
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looks impressive…no?
Yes! I'm certainly interested in knowing more about it - although (sad to say) I'm actually expecting to learn something fundamentally disappointing about it...

Taking off my scepticism hat just for a moment though, I do perceive great potential in the RX10.
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I like small operational LCD on top allowing to set camera without switching on or looking at large screen on back of camera.
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same sensor as the rx100…very good
zoom from 24 to 200…all in one arsenal…love the 24!
funky looking...in itself a bonus...
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Actually the most important part of this camera was the fact that for video, it reads every sensor, instead of line skipping. The true 1080p look and cleanliness and sharpness of the video is absolutely stunning.

For photos, it is really the ultimate carry-around vacation cam ... lol. But I can really see it becoming a staple with a lot of videographers who use Panasonic GH2/GH3 and Canon 5D MKIII with Magic Lantern.
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i had the rx100 but sold it when the rent was due awhile back…it is a great image maker and this one sounds even better.
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Yes! I'm certainly interested in knowing more about it - although (sad to say) I'm actually expecting to learn something fundamentally disappointing about it...
do you like mechanical zoom rings? because this one ain't
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do you like mechanical zoom rings? because this one ain't
Yes, I do - in fact I prefer a mechanical zoom, but it isn't overly important. If the rest of the RX10 matches what I'd like, then I'd be inclined to buy it.
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yes very impressive. perfect for travel.
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Not bad but the Sony A7 looks better.
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btw shouldn't this be in the Sony Fixed Lens forum
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Well Olympus is rumored to be ready to announce their version of 28-300 as opposed to 24-200. The Olympus version to my eye looks better, but has a smaller sensor.

I think the rx10 has a nice zoom range (not pushing the limits) and w/ that sensor should be an excellent camera.

Anyway.. I am not currently interested.. I was really really hoping for the rx10 to be a apsc version of the rx1

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I like the 24 and the 200 ends of the zoom...I doubt that I would ever use anything longer and I love the 24 fov...maybe someday...
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Steve Huff got to take one home from the Sony event... Looks like we will c a review soon...

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/1...the-sony-rx10/

A constant 24-200f2.8 zoom in a 1 inch sensor, the more I think about , u guys are right it would not be bad for going on vacation. I use the rx100 for this purpose sometimes.

In terms of looks, I never liked this style... Wished it was either a more slr or rectanglar kind of look. Anyway, looks aren't everything, so long as it delivers the goods.

My rx100 version 1 is good to iso 800. I have heard that the version 2 gained a stop. I wonder if the rx10 is better than 1 stop to offset the f2.8 vs 1.8 that the rx100 has @28mm.

Having better zoom range and a constant f2.8 is a real plus. If wide open, the iq is pretty decent, then I think they have another winner here...

Another camera to keep an eye on... So Joe, are u going to replace your rx100 u sold for this one

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just watched a couple of videos on utoob about the rx10…if the image quality is consistent throughout the zoom range i think it could be a winner.
i like the looks of it…reminds me of the porsche designed contax cameras…

though not a fan of zooms i am intrigued...
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Steve Huff review just out
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Steve Huff review just out

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/1...ing-superzoom/

Nice camera.. Looks a bit on the high side in terms of price but if that 24-200 equiv zoom is really up to the iq as the rx1, then it is probably well worth the price. I like that they have the aperture ring on the lens.

My travel cameras of choice are the x100, dp2m, and the rx100v1..mix and match depending on the situation. Until they give up the ghost... I am gas protected...

The zoom range is quite nice. Couple w/ a constant f2.8 and decent high iso..

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looking better all the time...
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Old 11-11-2013   #18
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Very impressive looking camera!

I have an RX100, so most of my usage for it is already covered, but for some reason I keep eyeing up this one.
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Why, one must ask, is this thing so god-awful ugly? Surely one can make a smaller, more elegant lens these days? Look how tiny a Canon 35/2 rangefinder lens was, in 1960. These cameras just keep getting more and more front-heavy, like electronic Dustin Hoffmans.
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Surely one can make a smaller, more elegant lens these days? Look how tiny a Canon 35/2 rangefinder lens was, in 1960.
I wonder what a Canon 24mm-200mm zoom would have looked like in 1960.
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I was on the trip with Steve and also filed some thoughts on the RX10; will follow up with a formal review when I get some more extended time with the camera, but my early impressions are overwhelmingly positive. And this is coming from a 50mm fast-lens prime kind of guy:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2426652,00.asp
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I am actually more interested in this rx10 then the a7 from Sony. As I think about it... This camera maybe what I am looking for in terms of my daily 3 mile walk.. there are some trials which has some steep climbs.

I like to take a dslr w/ me for some nature shots. A 300mm equiv or better for the birds.. From my experience w/ rx100, 50% crop still gives a good results.

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I wonder what a Canon 24mm-200mm zoom would have looked like in 1960.
one with auto focus...
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Why, one must ask, is this thing so god-awful ugly? Surely one can make a smaller, more elegant lens these days? Look how tiny a Canon 35/2 rangefinder lens was, in 1960. These cameras just keep getting more and more front-heavy, like electronic Dustin Hoffmans.
beauty is in the eye of the beholder…the rx10 reminds me of the porche designed contax cameras…a thing of beauty.
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I like the 24 and the 200 ends of the zoom...I doubt that I would ever use anything longer and I love the 24 fov...maybe someday...
It's funny, but I use my RX100 II only at 28mm and 100mm most of the time (i.e. nothing in between).
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It's funny, but I use my RX100 II only at 28mm and 100mm most of the time (i.e. nothing in between).
It's strange... I use zooms rarely, but when I do, I almost always use them at the two extremes of the range. A psychiatrist would probably be able to make a great deal (of nonsense) from that piece of information...

Back on-topic, for me the RX10 is looking quite interesting... expensive, but interesting...
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RX10 seems to be first 'bridge' camera that actually bridges something

I think it looks great and first reports are very positive. It is pricey, but if it delivers on all accounts that price would be justified.
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I am going to keep a close eye on this camera. If the iq is good at the wide, middle and tele end plus the high iso is good up to 1600 or 3200, then lets c if Sony puts this on sale during the Xmas season.

I have the rx100v1, for those who upgraded from the v1 to v2, how much better is the high iso on the v2?? Did u get a one or two stop improvement in high iso? I have heard in the past.. But would like to get some confirmation about this since I can't remember how I heard sbout this.

For the purpose of my daily walk, up to iso 400 is good enough.. But I was really wondering about the higher iso for times I may use it on vacation.

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My experience is that the RX100 II provides a 1-stop advantage in high ISO image quality over the original RX100.
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Thanks Jim..

Btw are u allowed to post any of your rx10 shots here on rff?

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The only thing keeping me from posting the shots is the amount of time I have to process them. I had a busy couple weeks leading up to PhotoPlus and am working to play catch up on some reviews that have been lingering in my queue for a while...

But I did manage to get the first full day of shooting with the three new Sony cams online. Hope to be finished with the rest over the weekend.

The RX10 shots I've got online so far are here : http://jimfisher.smugmug.com/keyword...shot%20dscrx10

And the general Nashville-week shots will be added here as my free time and energy allow : http://jimfisher.smugmug.com/2013

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do you like mechanical zoom rings? because this one ain't

It has manual zoom too, if I'm not mistaken........?????
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You can turn the lens barrel to zoom, but doing so just activates the motor. Still a power zoom mechanism.
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The only thing keeping me from posting the shots is the amount of time I have to process them. I had a busy couple weeks leading up to PhotoPlus and am working to play catch up on some reviews that have been lingering in my queue for a while...

But I did manage to get the first full day of shooting with the three new Sony cams online. Hope to be finished with the rest over the weekend.

The RX10 shots I've got online so far are here : http://jimfisher.smugmug.com/keyword...shot%20dscrx10

And the general Nashville-week shots will be added here as my free time and energy allow : http://jimfisher.smugmug.com/2013

Hope this helps... Jim
Thanks Jim, much appreciated.

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From what I read about the RX100 mk1 vs mk2 difference the sensor was supposed to be 40% more sensititve.

which sounds like a lot, until you put it into stops.

For me I couldnt justify the mk2 over the mk1, especially since I expressly didn't want the additional bells and whistles like wifi, nfc, hotshoe, and the tilt screen.

I could just about see using the tilt screen on the RX10 very occasionally, because it's a bigger camera.

I just wish the RX100 lens zoom turned the other way.
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Any updates on the RX10? Anyone give it a try?

I was thinking I might get this for my father as he needs a new camera and a new video camera. He hasn't had a modern video camera, and I know Mum likes to have one around.

I was considering the Sony A7 for him (small, full frame camera is finally comparable to the old 35mm AF vacation cameras we had). But this RX10 actually looks rather perfect (minus the sensor size). Just an amazingly designed camera with a great menu system and nice physical controls that don't overwhelm.

Hell, even I'm interested for myself. But I'll quell the GAS until I see what Sigma is cooking up, come 2014.
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But this RX10 actually looks rather perfect (minus the sensor size).
The sensor is quite better than its size would indicate. This is probably the ideal camera for them.
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The sensor is quite better than its size would indicate. This is probably the ideal camera for them.
It really probably is the ideal camera for the folks, but I might wait until they actually have use for it (after talking, he seems adamant that they just want me to capture all the old miniDV and etc to a digital file for them--not a new camera).

Back onto the topic of this camera: the more I research it, the more this camera seems to be the most well-designed digital still/video camera that's ever been designed.
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My cousin just bought one yesterday for her 6 week trip to China in February. She has been playing w/ my rx100 for the last three weeks and decided for her needs the rx10 would fit better.

Hope to get a chance to play w/ it soon...

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Btw I found this write up about it at serious compact forum..

http://www.seriouscompacts.com/showthread.php?t=24137

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