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Old 03-09-2013   #81
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Just got my first shots back from this lens. I love the vintage character it lends to photos. These three were on Portra 400, last one B&W converted.


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And the bokeh is decent...


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Yes Wonderful Character indeed.lovely shots 'furbs'

this lens has Great Qualities...sharpness, retro appeal, character... big bang for the buck
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nice images.

how is this lens compared to the nikkor 5cm f1.4 (tokyo or japan) when it comes to sharpness, focus shifting and vignetting ?

i think bokeh is a personal thing
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nice images.
how is this lens compared to the nikkor 5cm f1.4 (tokyo or japan) when it comes to sharpness, focus shifting and vignetting ?
i think bokeh is a personal thing
I cannot speak for the 50 1.4 , have not had the chance to try it
However 'ferider' Roland has taken some exquisite photos with that lens
Probably Best to hear his thoughts ...
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Great photos, Helen. Development came out nice, too.

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I cannot speak for the 50 1.4 , have not had the chance to try it However 'ferider' Roland has taken some exquisite photos with that lens Probably Best to hear his thoughts ...
I have two 50/1.4 lenses and one 50/2. Honestly, the two 50/1.4 are more different from each other than the 50/2 from the "better" 50/1.4, f2 and above. Not sure if that helps

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Great photos, Helen. Development came out nice, too.

I have two 50/1.4 lenses and one 50/2. Honestly, the two 50/1.4 are more different from each other than the 50/2 from the "better" 50/1.4, f2 and above. Not sure if that helps

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Yes Indeed! Keep mine paired with a 1:3.5mm f= 2.8cm on a Bessa R . this is my current "walk around "kit. I enjoy that my various Ltm lenses are all compatible with my Canon/Bessa R camera bodies. I lucked out with the 50/2 Nikkor da-bay went cheep as the picture revealed a bad fog on the rear element. but like they say "Ya pays ya money ,ya takes ya chances". This time I won big! Keep a protective filter and an old Canon lens cap while not in use. Be nice to have the bk.metal cap like the wide but they always want too muck cash, oh well. will try to post some images using them soon.
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Just developed a roll I shot with my Nikkor HC 50/2 and I'm impressed with it all over again. Here's a low light shot of Ara Gular, a famous Turkish photographer, wide open on HP5 EI 400.



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More images shot with a 50 f2 ai here:
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My Nikkor 50 2.0 was attached to my Waltz Envoy in the 1960 era. All my college pics were made with it. Then the camera quit and the lens went with it.

I now have on in F mount.
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Just developed a roll I shot with my Nikkor HC 50/2 and I'm impressed with it all over again. Here's a low light shot of Ara Gular, a famous Turkish photographer, wide open on HP5 EI 400.



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Helen, thank you. This is one of four, he poses well in a comical way.
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Which version?

Anyone know which version of the lens (Tokyo vs. Japan) alexnotalex is shooting with? Tried contacting him, without success. The 5cm/1.4s differ in the quality of their bokeh depending on whether they were made during the occupation or after, so I wonder if the same is true about the 5cm/2. Whatever alexnotalex is using seems very well behaved in the bokeh department.
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I recently bought a 50mm f2 Nikkor in LTM. I am not very familiar with this version of the lens, and was surprised to see that the focusing mount seems to have two stages- down to a little less than 3.5 ft in black, and a continuation down to 1.5 ft, in red. There are not many index marks in this close range, so using the red focus scale for accurate close focus seems improbable. The focus cam keeps moving as the lens focuses closer, but uncouples from the M-mount camera (I have tried a few) at the end of the first focus scale. Is this the normal design for this lens? I am a bit mystified at the purpose of the close focus capability.

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The close focus can be handy. Its close setting is 18 inches if I remember rightly and that is one cubit in my case, or the length of my arm from elbow to end of fingers. With enough light for a bit of depth of field it lets me get an occasional close up shot with my Leica. If I need to do more I'll get out a Nikon with my 55mm f2.8 Micro Nikkor. Try it and Good Luck. Joe
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That certainly makes sense, and after all it is a free feature. There is so much emphasis on RFF on the use of lenses wide open that I need to remind myself that there are other modes as well.
The close focus index marks are at 3" intervals, so it shouldn't be a problem to get my subject positioned correctly.
Does the LTM f1.4 lens have the same close-focus feature? It has been a long time since I have handled one of those lenses.

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I love the close focus ability of the LTM Nikkors. If your film camera doesn't allow you to use all the extension, a digital will. The 2.0 and 1.4 sonnars are excellent for closeups.
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Around 1983 I had the 50mm f/2 Nikkor and used it on my M3. I liked until I was abled to buy the 50mm f/2 Summicron new in Germany in 1983. When I did some tests using both lenses side by side, I sold the Nikkor. It just did not stand up to the Summicron.
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Both lenses are totally different. Some people like the look of lens A, some lens B. But I can't see comparing one to the other and saying it "can't stand up to..." It depends on what you're using it for. Like saying a Ducati can't stand up to a 1936 Harley, depends on what you're looking to do.
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Everyone has preferences, I guess. Me, I'd take the Duck. Now if it were a 1949 Vincent, that might be a different story.



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I love the close focus ability of the LTM Nikkors. If your film camera doesn't allow you to use all the extension, a digital will. The 2.0 and 1.4 sonnars are excellent for closeups.
The Nikkor-Q.C 50/3.5 also has that close-focus feature. (At the least the rigid version does -- dunno about the collapsible.)
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Empirical testing

As a great fan of empirical testing, I have acquired two Nikkors HC 5cm/2, one the Tokyo version, the other the black ring Japan version. Next week I'll do some comparisons between the two, and will also throw in the SC 5cm/1.4, specifically a Japan version. All in the name of science.

I'll post the results here. Feel free to make suggestions on what you'd like to see in the tests. Of course, there will be infinity and close up (with bokeh) at every aperture. But feel free to suggest anything else.
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I'm interested in your test too, I've done several comparisons too. I'd say from a tripod, at F1.4, 2.0, 2.8, 5.6, and 8.0 ought to do. One other internet legend I hear a lot is "XYZ lens is optimized for closeup, but ABC is optimized for infinity." I've still never figured out how that would work, optically, but If you want to either take shots at 6-8 feet, then landscapes, it might be nice. Or if not, I'd split the difference, and shoot at something 15 yards or so in front of the camera. Even lighting would be nice.

Are both lenses in excellent condition, with no cleaning marks or separation?
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No idea, since I haven't gotten them yet. I suspect superficial front element cleaning marks, which, to be honest never make a difference unless they are in very large number. I don't expect that to be the case. I understand there are folks who obsess over "cleaning marks." As long as it's just a few, I don't, as I find other age related issues to have a greater impact on the lens.

Like I said, there will be infinity and close up, medium distance if you will, as well, at all apertures. I don't have a J3, or a J8, or a CZJ Sonnar, so no. I can add the Sonnetar and the FE 55/1.8 for Sony, both of which are Sonnar designs. However , this is not a test of the 50 Sonnars, but of the 5cm Nikkors.


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Might the J-8 have a place in your test?
I tested all the fast Sonnars I had here, the Canon 1.5, J-3, and Nikkor 1.4:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...hreadid=129340

I have a couple Tokyo Nikkor 50/1.4s and I believe one Japan version. I can measure them and may duplicate your test once you are done, just to see if cleaning marks make a difference. I've found if there are a lot, it increases flare and decreases contrast. If just a couple, no problem at all.
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My 50 2.0 was permanently attached to my Waltz Envoy which I received around 1958 or 59. The transport mechanism was troublesome and finally gave up in 1966.

Looking back over those pictures, they were quite nice, however I did not appreciate it as special as it was my first and only camera.

I did replace it with a Pentax Spotmatic. The glass was OK, but not really what I wanted. I got replaced with Leica.

Digital came along and I got a Nikkor HC 50 mm. I think it is much like the 1959 RF lens.
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My 50 2.0 was permanently attached to my Waltz Envoy which I received around 1958 or 59. The transport mechanism was troublesome and finally gave up in 1966.

Looking back over those pictures, they were quite nice, however I did not appreciate it as special as it was my first and only camera.

I did replace it with a Pentax Spotmatic. The glass was OK, but not really what I wanted. I got replaced with Leica.

Digital came along and I got a Nikkor HC 50 mm. I think it is much like the 1959 RF lens.
I don't think the 50mm for the F system ever included a sonnar variant, but I'm no specialist...
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