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Wow, there's one I haven't seen.! What's all the blue and orange stuff? Oh! Color! Wassup with that Ned? I didn't know Leicas could do color.

I really dig that shadow action, Viewed one way, it's a young woman, looked at in the opposite direction, it's a wide eyed youth. Just like the optical illusion picture!
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Nice colors, Ned !! Cuba ?

One of mine non-BW with the 35mm Summilux pre-ASPH: (M4-P / Portra 800)

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Is there any way to modify the lens to accept a normal filter? I rarely use the hood but I'm also very prone to getting my fingers on the lens element.

I am debating if I should unscrew just the hood but glue the the series7 filter to the attachment.



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Wow, there's one I haven't seen.! What's all the blue and orange stuff? Oh! Color! Wassup with that Ned? I didn't know Leicas could do color.

I really dig that shadow action, Viewed one way, it's a young woman, looked at in the opposite direction, it's a wide eyed youth. Just like the optical illusion picture!
Hehe Chris!
The Blue and Orange stuff is Color indeed! I wasn't sure at first but yeah, Leicas can do some color.

I'd be dumb to shoot BW in cuba, if you ask me... It would be good for some stuff but it's mainly color for me!
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Fine shot, Gabor! Superb colors and composition!

Great lens, heh? I think this lens describes best the "Leica look" and best sums the "Leica handling".

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One of mine non-BW with the 35mm Summilux pre-ASPH: (M4-P / Portra 800)

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Good shots!

For filter, you can just unscrew the hood but keep the bottom half where it holds the filter. No need to glue anything. In case you didn't know, the hood is made of 2 pieces screwed together. Have a look!

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Is there any way to modify the lens to accept a normal filter? I rarely use the hood but I'm also very prone to getting my fingers on the lens element.

I am debating if I should unscrew just the hood but glue the the series7 filter to the attachment.

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nb23, I have not thought before that the hood has two parts (thanks for the tip) but unfortunately I find that lower half of this hood doesn't hold the filter . I read that round hood is not that good compared to rectangular hood which is common with newer Summicrons. I'm curious what that rectangular hood can do because I found myself that "bare" lens takes better pictures comparing to "hooded" lens. Probably less of coma, flare etc. I have two examples which were shot with rd1 so those don't fit here. I might be wrong there because I don't remember if those were shot at f1.4 or half stop less

maddoc, that concert photo looks good. I'd be suprised if you say that it is shot at f1.4. I find f1.7 working so much better so I speculate that you did shoot at that aperture, didn't you? :P or maybe it was f2 lol. Maybe the lens is reacting differently to mediums as digital sensor and film emulsions. I had not tried the last option yet.

Summilux pre asph is great to have because this has almost same size and weight as Summicron but you have extra stop VOILA!
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tomasis,

The original hood for this lens works with series VII filter. If your bottom half of the hood doesn't hold the filter it means you either don't have the good Hood or don't use the good filter.

Look for the #12504 hood and Series 7 (or VII) filter.
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I got one on lone from Leica back in the mid 70s with the intent of actually buying a Summicron, but got such a good deal when it came time to hand it back in I bought it.

So for a couple decades it was my 35 of choice. Usually tried to keep in the f5.6-f8 range for highest image quality ( no complaints ) and scale focusing, but it does fine as a fast lens too when in need with a beautiful rendition of color and tonality.

Lots of negativity about it here, but for those that can appreciate what it does its a wonderful lens. As I said, fine stopped down and opened up to f1.4-f2.8 gives something special - kind of like 2 lenses in 1. Also as mentioned its compact and a nice match on the M camera in that way. When I traded mine in for the 'better optics' of the ASPH version and started using that lens, I knew I had made a mistake, partly because of the larger lens and change in handling and partly because I missed that 'look'.
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Thank you guys ! Ned, this lens is - mounted on the M4-P - my "workhorse" setup. A small M kit with low-light capability and I like the way this lens renders at f/1.4.

tomasis: You are right about the aperture used for the band photo, it was f/2.0. At f/1.4 the DoF would have been to small for the stage. Here is one taken at 1/30s f/1.4 in dim light with this lens:



About the filter for this lens, I have the original 12504 hood that came with the lens and a Leica Series 7 yellow filter. The filter must be placed between the two parts of the hood and the upper (vented) part must be screwed into the lower part (which has the clips) to hold the filter. I checked with my hood but cannot use only the lower part with filter.

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Ho! My bad! For some reason I mixed the 12504 and 12518 and I was sure the 12504 could do it. Indeed, now that I am home I see the 12504 can't hold a filter. Wouldn't it be better if t was like the 12518 (holding a filter between it and the lens) heh?
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Ho! My bad! For some reason I mixed the 12504 and 12518 and I was sure the 12504 could do it. Indeed, now that I am home I see the 12504 can't hold a filter. Wouldn't it be better if t was like the 12518 (holding a filter between it and the lens) heh?
It would be much better if it was like the 12518 hood. In my opinion, the detachable hoods made from plastic (as for the Super-Angulon and Noctilux) are the best solution, since they provide better protection when bumping the lens into something...
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I got one on lone from Leica back in the mid 70s with the intent of actually buying a Summicron, but got such a good deal when it came time to hand it back in I bought it.

So for a couple decades it was my 35 of choice. Usually tried to keep in the f5.6-f8 range for highest image quality ( no complaints ) and scale focusing, but it does fine as a fast lens too when in need with a beautiful rendition of color and tonality.

Lots of negativity about it here, but for those that can appreciate what it does its a wonderful lens. As I said, fine stopped down and opened up to f1.4-f2.8 gives something special - kind of like 2 lenses in 1. Also as mentioned its compact and a nice match on the M camera in that way. When I traded mine in for the 'better optics' of the ASPH version and started using that lens, I knew I had made a mistake, partly because of the larger lens and change in handling and partly because I missed that 'look'.
dreamsandart, I like the colors and tonality in our photo. The pre-ASPH version is not the super sharp lens at f/1.4 as its successor but it has that special "look". I think the same holds for the 50mm versions of the Summilux. Me (and some others) prefer the rendering of the pre-ASPH version.
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Ho! My bad! For some reason I mixed the 12504 and 12518 and I was sure the 12504 could do it. Indeed, now that I am home I see the 12504 can't hold a filter. Wouldn't it be better if t was like the 12518 (holding a filter between it and the lens) heh?
You were correct originally. I found many references on photo.net about the 12504 holding a Series 7. Mine unscrews to reveal a promising cavity, although I don't have a filter to test.
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Lots of negativity about it here, but for those that can appreciate what it does its a wonderful lens.
It works for Jim Marshall...
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Hmmmm. I see that picture all the time, and think that I shouldn't take it because the airplane will be so small. Now I see that kind of thinking is wrong.
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Hey Chris! I just love your simple and true to life comments. :-)
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The Paris picture of the Couple was pretty straighforward (as all my street shots). I had the lens ready, prefocused and the light measured in advance. The only thing left was to bring the camera to my eye and click as soon as there was something interesting happening.

The Yawning picture was shot with my M3 and the 21mm f3.4 super angulon lens.


My street gear was M3 camera for B&W (I used Agfa APX-400 exclusively during the trip) and a M4-P for color (the idea was that a newer camera has more accurate shutter speeds). I used Velvia 50 for my colors shots.

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Oh yes, he was ready to eat me alive... but only from far away. Those small dogs usually run away as soon as we get closer :-) The one on the right was a poseur, only barking when the boss was barking. I love Dogs!

Yes Cuba... I wish I was there right now.
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Love it. Canine displays passive/aggressive.

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NB23, did you already compare the summilux pre asph and the summicron preasph 4th ? i have the summicron, even if it has the old leica look and a 3D effect, the bokeh is too much progressive for me ( even at f/2 ). I'm thinking about replacing it with the Summilux preasph ( already have the ASPH version ), what do you think ?
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summilux vignettes? at widest aperture? It was surprise for me (at positive way). I considered to ditch of 35mm lens if I quit with digital and I haven't used this 35mm on filmbody yet. But it looks like I'll keep this for this pretty vignetting haha
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Samsam, I have both and at apertures smaller than f2 the Cron is better in my opinion. At f2 the Cron loses a lot of contrast and of course you don't have the option of f1.4 while the pre-ASPH Lux gives quite a lot of vignetting at wider apertures. Mind you, if you are shooting on the street at EI 1600 you probably wont mind as long as you get some kind of image. A superior lens (optically) to the Lux is the f1.2 Nokton but it's just a bit too big and heavy for daily shooting. It's going to be very interesting to see how the new Nokton 35mm f1.4 compares to the Lux as it looks to be about the same size. Personally I'd wait for this because s/h Luxes are somewhat pricey.
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summilux vignettes? at widest aperture? It was surprise for me (at positive way). I considered to ditch of 35mm lens if I quit with digital and I haven't used this 35mm on filmbody yet. But it looks like I'll keep this for this pretty vignetting haha
Ah, we posted at the same time and I said something similar about the vignetting. Another strange thing about the Lux is that the plane of focus isn't flat at wider apertures i.e. you kind of get a curve of sharp focus. And yes, there's loads of flare and coma and other stuff to help you get that '50s look
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thx you lawrence for your answer, i've been asking several times but never got answers I should probably wait for the first Nokton 1.4 reviews.
However, the fact that the summilux preasph has vignetting and less sharpness than other lenses doesn't bother me, i prefer lenses with strong character
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Samsam, I think replacing it for the excellent and unique 35 preasph would be a good thing to do. I never tried the asph nor the summicron, but I know very well the pre-asph has its followers.

About the vignetting, it isn't apparent on pictures, usually, exept when shooting bright scenes such as snow. Mainly because the meter get fooled. And with the higher contrast, the vignetting appears exaggerated. I still like it this way, doesn't bother me one bit.
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Thanks you NB23 and 35mm delux, i think i will sell my Summilux ASPH and get a pre-asph, the summilux asph is too modern for me, and i prefer "vintage" tones.
Vignetting and extreme sharpness are not important to me, the main word for me is "Character"

35mmdelux, may you tell why you like the 35 Lux ASPH better ?
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