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View Poll Results: Which Nikon Rangefinder camera is your favorite?
Nikon I 3 0.88%
Nikon M/ Nikon M synch 3 0.88%
Nikon S/ Nikon S 8 digit 12 3.53%
Nikon S2/ Nikon S2 in black 118 34.71%
Nikon S3/ Nikon S3 "Olympic"/ Nikon S3 in black 24 7.06%
Nikon S3M/ Nikon S3M in black 7 2.06%
Nikon S4 7 2.06%
Nikon SP/ Nikon SP in black 83 24.41%
Nikon S3 2000 33 9.71%
Nikon S3 2002 in black "Limited edition" 17 5.00%
Nikon SP 2005 in black "Limited edition" 47 13.82%
I like them all, one of each, may be two 30 8.82%
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Hard not to love an SP
Old 12-20-2007   #41
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Hard not to love an SP

The SP was so ahdead of it's time.. The feature set it had were stunning in the photo workd. Much like the V8 Ford in 1932.
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Thinking about a Nikon RF for years (being into Leica), the SP was really my only desire - and a black one of course - to go along with my BP M4 as the 'best of the best'.

Well, got the SP 2500 kit and a nice Zeiss Tessar for something 'classic' in look, and then split an S3 kit to keep the 50 millinium lens. But the past week found a nice S2 BD with a 2/50 Nikkor and now I feel 'complete'

Both are different, and both have a style their own, a good couple in contrast - I'm a happy Nikon RF camper
I love Nikon SP's, but NOTHING beat the "feel" of operating a Leica.
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Old 12-20-2007   #43
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I love Nikon SP's, but NOTHING beat the "feel" of operating a Leica.
You haven't tried an SP 2005

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Old 12-22-2007   #44
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I love Nikon SP's, but NOTHING beat the "feel" of operating a Leica.
other than the fact that everything turns the wrong way

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Old 12-22-2007   #45
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I can't believe the Nikon I, the camera that started it all, didn't get a single vote

Since the poll is closed now, feel free to reply to this thread with your favourite choice.

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can't believe the Nikon I, the camera that started it all, didn't get a single vote
Really it was the lenses that started it all. The Nikon One was okay for its time, but nobody much wants to use one. You hardly even hear of anyone using a Nikon S as a daily user, even though they're so common and affordable. Instead, people prefer the S2 and later, because that's when Nikon really began refining the basic package into something unique and classic.
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Old 12-22-2007   #47
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the S2 was a great design.
it really made a difference at the time of its introduction in late 1954 early 55.
there was nothing like it, and it even gave the Leica M3 a run for its money.
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The S2 is the camera Zeiss-Ikon should have been made.
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Old 12-27-2007   #49
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I'd have to go with the S2. It happens to be the only one I own, but I also specifically chose it when I decided to get a Nikon RF.

Something about the curve under the RF window makes it seem more elegant to look at. Even if the later models are more user friendly, and durable, they're more stark looking to me.
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Old 01-09-2008   #50
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I can only speak to the ownership of a S2, I tried a friends SP and while it was novel it was not anthing to kill for. The S2's I have found are always in good shape and seem to be like tanks. I like to use of the viewfinders as they seem to be accurate.

The biggest factor for the Nikons is the magnification factor, as I do not like to M2 style of diminished reproduction. I own a M3 and M6 .085 as well for the same reasons. I could only get a Nikon RF about a year or so ago. It is easier to focus and when many people see it almost beg to have a shot taken with such an old nikon.

When I send them the "snap" they seem to really get a kick out of it. the Nikon lense have a very visiblly different fee. A almost kind of grit texutre but sharp. A pronounced roundness to the subject. Also they seem do do a very good job of layers of deep tones that are distinct.

I just shot a test roll using both the F2 and F1.4 50mm lenses and also test shots with the 105mm From wide open on each down to F4 Moving one full stop at a time, while comparing the visual differences of each at same F stops.

I would like to have a modern SP with the 35mm F1.8 and compare it to the same lens I have from the old production series.

The overall feel and balance of the camer is better than my leica's and also quiter. However it is an arisitc tool and that complements my Leica's creative performance. Kind of like apples and oranges. Both from trees but worlds apart.

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Old 01-10-2008   #51
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Well said. I like to observation about "grit" in the way the lenses handle sharpness. I also know from many portraits that their tones, and layers of tones, are quite pleasing. It's an interesting balance.
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Old 01-26-2008   #52
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The SP is catching up to the S2. Jarle, was that you?
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Old 01-26-2008   #53
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the SP still has a ways to go to out pace the S2.
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Well, if you add the original SP with the SP 2005 (an exact replica) they surpass the S2, 37 to 35. Go figure.
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well , Nikon should have made an S2 2000 also.
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well , Nikon should have made an S2 2000 also.
Yes, but which lens with the S2 2000, the external f1.1 or f2?
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Old 01-27-2008   #57
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Yes, but which lens with the S2 2000, the external f1.1 or f2?
Nahhhh, the lens for a reissue S2 (black dial of course) would have to be the 50/1.1 internal

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Old 01-28-2008   #58
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OK,
I have to edit my original post, as many know, this poll had an expiration date, which passed, but now, it's active.

go ahead and vote people...

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Old 02-09-2008   #59
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My favorite Nikon RF is the SP-D. It's got the sensor from the D-300, live view, dual card slots, weather sealing, dedicated iso dial and, best of all, it has the no-longer-patent-protected M-mount. A good deal for $2,395 with USA warranty. The SP-Dx is very nice, too, with its full-frame sensor and 10fps ability, but it's also $4,995. It's nice that Nikon offers a choice.






I voted for the S2.

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Old 02-09-2008   #60
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My favorite Nikon RF is the SP-D. It's got the sensor from the D-300, live view, dual card slots, weather sealing, dedicated iso dial and, best of all, it has the no-longer-patent-protected M-mount. A good deal for $2,395 with USA warranty. The SP-Dx is very nice, too, with its full-frame sensor and 10fps ability, but it's also $4,995. It's nice that Nikon offers a choice.



Hmm.
I prefer the S-D3 with the new sony ff sensor.

Kevin's SP-S sounds like the R-D1
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S2 for me.
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Old 03-03-2008   #62
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A chrome S2 with Nikkor 50/1.4, 35/1,8 (very sharp!), 135/4 (or Jupiter 11 f.4) and a CV 21/4 is definitively a good set.
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I've only got one, a plain old 7-digit S + 50/2 that followed me home from a flea market. I've probably run all of 3 rolls of film through it, two color (still awaiting development) and one roll of HP5+. I have to admit, the quality of that 50mm lens really suprised me. First and only Nikon camera I've ever owned, not the easiest to use, but definitely no worse than my dad's LTM leicas.
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Old 03-03-2008   #64
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I punched the S2 button but figured the SP would be the Sentimental Fav. It's that 'look' the S2 has: simple, balanced, perfect, very vintage Contax.
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Old 03-26-2008   #65
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The S2 is better than a Contax, It is the camera ZEISS-IKON should have made. They didn't and gone to ground. Nikon did. It was the most important camera in their history, a true winner. A small and compact camera, simply a joy to use, the fastest camera to work with then. They didn't rest on their laurels but continued to build better and better cameras, one of them was the SP, another one was the F. To understand why the Japanese took over, you can see it in the S2.

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Old 03-31-2008   #66
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I'm sure this is OT, but I just discovered Nikon RF's today when a tourist let me play with his S2 for a few minutes and now I want one. What I immediately noticed is that I didn't have to adopt the claw-like Kiev grip in order to focus the camera (I have a Kiev 4AM) and well, the Nikon just seemed way easier to use.

A couple of questions:

1. Will my Helios 103 fit and work OK on a Nikon RF?

2. Where might be the best place to buy a Nikon RF without going broke?

Forgive my ignorance regarding the Nikon RF series.
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Old 03-31-2008   #67
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Ted has seen the light!

You might check out KEH and Ritzcam.com, not the cheapest but the return policy is often better than on auction sites. Hopefully someone here with one, who has an extra, will send you a pm. If you don't want another system, you should not pick up and look through a Nikon rangefinder. I've been trying to get RayPa to look through my S2, but he knows what would lie ahead. RayPa, I can see your will is strong, but the time will come.........
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Old 03-31-2008   #68
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There was a very clean CLA'd Nikon S2 listed in the RFF classifieds here just a week or so ago. Might still be available!
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Old 04-01-2008   #69
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Thanks, jonmanjiro, I just PM'd him and sent him a regular email. Apparently he's having trouble receiving PM's.

Still haven't got an answer to Question #1. I have a Helios 103 and a Jupiter 8, both in Contax/Kiev mount.
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Ted,

Having played with several FSU lenses and cameras before I move to Nikon, go with the Nikon or CV glass. You might find a good FSU, but there are issues with many and I look at the FSU space as a sink hole for time and money. I did not have a lot of good luck there, your mileage may be much better. There are some issues with FSU external mount lenses scratching the body of Nikons (the rear is a bit thick).

Take a look for a 25/4 CV lens to go with a Nikkor 50 (either 2 or 1.4) and complete the kit with a 105/2.5, I have a Nikon brightline finder for sale for the 105 if you want to go that way. I loved that kit on my S2. I've moved up to an S3-2000 and have added a 35/2.5 CV to the mix. Welcome to the fun side. Beware of the sucking sound of Nikon SLRs, the old F and the S2/SP/S3/S4 all feel the same.

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Still haven't got an answer to Question #1. I have a Helios 103 and a Jupiter 8, both in Contax/Kiev mount.
Since they're internal mount lenses, your Helios 103 and Jupiter 8 should be fine at infinity on a Nikon RF body, and as long as you stop down to f4 or so should work fine at minimum focus. Resident RFF lens guru, Brian Sweeney, has shimmed several Helios 103 lenses so they focus accurately close up and wide open on Nikon RF bodies.

As Bill pointed out above, you have to be careful with external mount FSU lenses on Nikon bodies, because they may end up scratching the front plate. You can file down the back of the lens mount to "fix" this problem, though.
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1. Will my Helios 103 fit and work OK on a Nikon RF?

2. Where might be the best place to buy a Nikon RF without going broke?
1)Only if you go 5.6 or beyond!
2) me!!!!

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Welcome to Nikon

As stated above, the Helios and other Soviet lenses fit just fine onto the Nikon-S mount, and focus fine at infinity. But as you focus closer, the focus "drifts" slightly.

The real quality of the Nikon RF system is its lenses. I'd look for an S2 with an accompanying 50/1.4 ... that's the classic setup.
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S2 and SP - neck and neck
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S2 and SP - neck and neck

S2 and SP - neck and neck

The story so far ...

51 votes - S2
51 votes - SP (all versions)
31 votes - S3 (all versions)
4 votes - S
1 vote - M
1 vote - S4

(plus 11 votes for all of them)
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come on people, one doesn't need to own one to vote for one
Oh, ok... I don't really have much on which to base an opinion, as I've only used an S2 and S3 years ago, and just recently acquired an S3-2000 kit. I've used the 50mm that came with it, bought a CV 28mm SC for it, and have filed down the sharp edges of the J-12 lens mount to avoid scratching the S3, and it works very well. Have to say, though, that a black SP looks very sexy.
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Old 06-06-2008   #76
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Hmm.
I prefer the S-D3 with the new sony ff sensor.

Kevin's SP-S sounds like the R-D1

Here is Kevin's SP-D


Borrowed from this site:

http://akiroom.com/redbook-e/kenkyuk...kai200708.html

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I think the black SP 2005's are really under appreciated and undervalued because they are still readily available on the used market.

In the years to come I expect to see a lot of moaning about "Why didn't I buy one while they were inexpensive?"

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THE SP WENT OVER JONNY.....
Kiu, that's because people get enthralled with the big window. It's just a beauty contest, ya know?

I still have faith the S2 will come out on top, and I just signed up family and friends to become members here and swing the vote (I don't actually have friends, but I do have family!).
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Forget the big window. I like being able to comfortably pick six lenses, while wearing eyeglasses, without separate finder.
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..... I just signed up family and friends to become members here and swing the vote .....
Must be from around these parts, sounds like a Chicago election if ever there is one!!

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