Old 06-16-2007   #41
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Just scored a black barrel Hektor 13,5 cm on eBay. Serial number #644651 (1947?). Focusing scale in feet. Aperture range fr 4.5 to 32. I can't tell from the auction photos if it is coated or not, but I'll update when I get my paws on it.

(Edit: It's coated, and like LeicaTom's example below, it has flat black paint.)

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Old 06-16-2007   #42
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Elmar f=9cm No 609285 f/4-36, uncoated, reporting for duty.
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Old 06-19-2007   #43
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elmar, 13.5 cm 4.5-36f, meters, serial #142594 Fixing iris blades as we speak
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Old 06-25-2007   #44
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Elmar 9cm, f/4-36, meters, uncoated, serial #412304 (1937)

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Old 06-26-2007   #45
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I just bought from an estate of a Brigadier General here in Florida
a Hektor f4.5 135mm *flat black paint barrel* (coated) serial no. 608332 (1946) - bought July 1947 in the US Army PX store Vienna, Austria
(I have original sales silp) cost: $40.50 with the original orange lens box and leather case

Here`s a photo of it on my beautiful "Half Race" 1946 IIIC stepper rewind with an equally interesting pre 1947 Leitz VIOOH finder which is also *flat black paint*
(I`ve been told Leitz had a shortage of gloss black paint during 1945 to 47 production runs)
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Old 06-28-2007   #46
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My Elmar 9cm is numbered 615370 (1946), and it's coated. Marked in meters and old f stops.

Curious thing is, the inside of the tube is penciled 5370 (I assume indicating that the head matches), and 90 4 57 PX, as far as I can tell. Also, the ring between the head is made of some sort of plastic, not brass like everyone else's seems to be. I'll get pictures if there's interest.
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Arrived freshly from the other side of the pond:

Elmar 9cm, f/4-36, feet, serial #414454 (1937), the lens has got a purple-ish sheen to it, so I guess it's been coated at some point.
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Arrived freshly from the other side of the pond:

Hektor 13.5cm, f/4.5-32, meters, serial #617068 (1946), coated
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Leica III w/Elmar 9cm / FIKUS / ROSOL

Here is my Black Elmar 9cm f4, coated, in feet, f4-f36, chrome distance ring.

SN: 355188
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Well, here's my 90mm Elmar on a Z3; nr. 372466. It is also in feet f4 - f36; uncoated
Can someone tell how to CLA this lens?
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Old 10-12-2007   #51
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I have a Black Barrel Hektor, 13.5 cm, serial 539628, it looks diffeent than all the pictures I've seen. so far. All the writing is on the outside of the barrel, nothing is inset. continental scale, in meters appears coated but I think it was sent back to the factory for coating. 539628 puts it at 1940. It is coupled as well. I also have the Hektor 7.3cm Black Barrel.
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I have a Black Barrel Hektor, 13.5 cm, serial 539628, it looks diffeent than all the pictures I've seen. so far. All the writing is on the outside of the barrel, nothing is inset. continental scale, in meters appears coated but I think it was sent back to the factory for coating. 539628 puts it at 1940. It is coupled as well. I also have the Hektor 7.3cm Black Barrel.
Hi, Can you show us a picture?
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sorry my mistake, it looks exactly like the one above in laptoprobs post! I will post a picture later....
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Old 11-09-2007   #54
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Hi Walker,
Note sure if you are still collecting numbers but I just received an "impulse" purchase through the post.

My Elmar is 9cm, serial # 517457 (1939 model), focusing in meters, aperture range f/4-36 in the "other" scale (4, 4.5, 6.3, 9, 12.8, etc.)

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Old 01-05-2008   #55
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hi,everybody.i've got a black barrel hektor 135 yesterday!it's on the way now!
it cost me about 100usd.
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Old 01-05-2008   #56
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just stumbled across this thread

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My Hektor f=13,5cm 1:4.5 No 576165. Meter, uncoated.
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Old 01-06-2008   #58
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Here's some info on a friends right now on ebay:
Focal Length - 9cm
Serial number - 615833
Focusing scale - meters
Aperture Range - f/4 - f/36
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Does Anybody Know The Number Hektor 135/4.5 Black Barrel Have Made?thanks
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Mike did me right!

"Here's some info on a friends right now on ebay:
Focal Length - 9cm
Serial number - 615833
Focusing scale - meters
Aperture Range - f/4 - f/36
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Looks great! Shot it last night & will run film today at some point. Glad to see it stayed in the RFF family. Thanks again, Mike!
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Old 02-21-2008   #61
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Hi...

Focal Length - 13.5cm

Serial number - 415951

Focusing scale - feet

Aperture Range - f/4,5 - f/36

Hektor

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Old 02-28-2008   #62
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Here's my contribution to the database:

90 mm:

" Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Elmar f = 9 cm 1:4 No 411643 " (all around front element)

f: 4 - 4,5 - 6,3 - 9 - 12,5 - 18 - 25 - 36

Brushed-chrome (?) mount and focusing ring: 1 - Inf , mtr

RF-coupled. Uncoated. In black bakelite tube.




135 mm:

" Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Elmar 1:4,5 F=135mm " - no s/n, at least none on exterior.

f : 4,5 - 6,3 - 9 - 12,5 - 18 - 25 - 36

Bright nickel focusing scale: 1,5 - Inf , mtr.

No Rangefinder coupling !

Tripod socket. Lens is all-black (incl. thread-mount) , except for focusing scale.


Next:

" Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Hektor f= 13,5 cm 1:4,5 " s/n:4152XX (on lens mount, and barrel/focusing mount)

f : 4,5 - 6,3 - 9 - 12,5 - 18 - 25 - 36

Satin nickel focusing scale: 1,5 - Inf, mtr ; RF-coupled.

Tripod socket. Lens is all-black, except for camera mount & focusing scale (Nckl)

Lens was coated at some point.



That's it for my black lenses.

I also have one-each, 1950's: Elmar 90, Hektor 135; both satin-chrome & vulcanite.

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Old 04-04-2008   #63
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brining this back from the dead. I just recieved a 13.5cm hektor and a 9cm Elmar.

Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Elmar f = 9 cm 1:4 No 96829 ( i think this is the lowest number i have seen here so far.) Uncoated, and in very very good shape i might add.

Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Hektor f = 13.5 cm 1:4.5 No 608431. Coated, decent shape.

cant wait to try them out.
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Old 05-31-2008   #64
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Finally dug my Hektor black barrel out ///

S/n - 370574
Meters, f/4.5-36, 13.5 cm, uncoated, coupled ltm

Since originally posting, I have acquired several others:
S/n - 608913, Meters, f/4.5 - 36, 13.5 cm, coated, coupled ltm
S/n - 576194, Meters, f/4.5 - 36, 13.5 cm, uncoated, coupled ltm
S/n - 6971, Feet, f/4.5 - 36, 13.5 cm, uncoated, coupled ltm .... seriously, number is on lens barrel in woods metal!!
S/n - None, Meters, f/4.5 - 36, 13.5 cm, uncoated, NO rangefinder coupling.
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William,
I think you have the right progression. It is a pretty clean optic and I have used it several times and am pleased with it. I do have a black 1a-to-2a conversion camera for it and I use the unnumbered, non-coupled lens with my Std-to-c conversion. The wartime one is with my IIIcK kit. Leaves one to actually use routinely.....
I am still fairly confused as to designations of these early cameras, tho.
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Is possible a 90 elmar collapsible half black half silver with the half silver in M mount ant the black front coated?
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Old 08-08-2008   #67
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Hektor 135 no. 241907
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Old 08-29-2008   #68
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I just received from Adorama an "uncoated" Black barreled 1940 ELANG 9cm Elmar No. 5564xx in meters

It`s near mint about 98% paint with only fine tick marks at one ot two places on the barrel and "minty" glass with just a touch of haze that needs cleaning away with the next CLA.

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Old 10-08-2008   #69
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Late again:

Elmar f = 9cm
f/4 to f/36
Feet and serial number 414326

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I just ordered up a nice '38 black elmar to go on my IIIF. Can anyone recommend what size lenscap I will need for this badboy? Also, what color looks best - black or chrome?
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Elmar/Hektor

Here's my contribution:

Hektor 13.5/4.5, 6.3,9,12.5,18,25,36;
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#600874;
meters;
flat black paint

Elmar 9/4,4.5,6.3,9,12.5,18,25,36;
uncoated;
#517235;
meters;
glossy black paint;

Elmar 9/4,4.5,6.3,9,12.5,18,25,36
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Hello Walker,
concerning the earliest,

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Bill, thank you. Your 1933 Elmar is the earliest one I've encountered so far.

Walker

you should visit this thread:

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...st-pieces.html (#13 ff)

Mine is from 1937, mtrs., f=9cm 1:4 black Elmar, # 414874!

yours OLAF

PS. I would be very interested in your results !
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It is possible to mount the Elmar lens on a later Hektor body, but the Elmar body is shorter, so no real use there. I would like to use the uncoupled Elmar on a coupled body. Maybe I can get an okd-style coupled lens body somewhere.
Do you know how long a black Hektor body is, from flange until the end of the focusing mount (at infinity)?

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I am new to the rangefinder world and just purchased a Bessa T. My first lens is going to be the CV 75mm f/2.5. I don't think that's regarded as one of their best lenses but it may be the perfect focal length for the shooting that I am doing. To take advantage of the long rangefinder baselength of the T and the more lightweight rangefinder lenses, I think my next lens will be a 135mm (my other body and most of the lenses I'm using are the F3 and Nikkors).

If someone can clarify some of the discussion I've quoted above it makes no sense to me. I am guessing it has something to do with the visoflex contraption? I know a visoflex can be used with the Bessa T, but is it necessary? Would someone recommend maybe a slower old 135mm lens (LTM or M) that can be used on the Bessa without a visoflex? Thank you much.

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Here`s another one for the records:

1939 Elmar f4/90 Black Barrel #5163xx issued August 28th 1939 to Vienna, Austria
(only 3 days before the outbreak of WW2)

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Hi, for the records:

Hektor f=13,5cm 1:4,5
SN 699801
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Hektor 13.5cm F4.5, #530276, Flat Black Paint, In Feet, and Un-coated.
Pretty lens, goes with my wartime Imarect, also in Flat Black Paint. Both are mounted on my Red Curtain IIIc.

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I just bought this for a hundred bucks. Looks uncoated? What can you guys tell me about it? I probably overpaid, but the glass is described as more or less perfect, and who can complain about prices this generally low?
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Mabelsound, I'm no expert on this (at all), but this link (http://www.forloren.dk/lbf/leica_lens_serial.htm) suggests it's from 1936. My 1948 Elmar 90 has been really fun to use.
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Nice, I'm really excited! I like the stuff you've been doing with yours.
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