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Are the R2/3/4M cameras back in production?
Old 12-31-2016   #1
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Are the R2/3/4M cameras back in production?

I ask because I notice that B&H have all of them in stock, new, for sale.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/searc...274+4291123839

Stephen also has them in stock. I thought they were discontinued a couple of years ago?

https://shop.cameraquest.com/35mm-be...-camera-black/
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Old 12-31-2016   #2
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Old new stock. Stephen was still selling new R's with Contax mounts on eBay just recently.
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Old 12-31-2016   #3
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I ask because I notice that B&H have all of them in stock, new, for sale.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/searc...274+4291123839

Stephen also has them in stock. I thought they were discontinued a couple of years ago?

https://shop.cameraquest.com/35mm-be...-camera-black/
Cosina is now delivering the last of the R3M & R4M back orders before the 35mm Bessas were discontinued.

Once they are gone, they are gone.

All other new Bessa bodies are new old stock.
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Sounds like a good time to act if someone was thinking of getting one. Bessa bodies value seems pretty stable to going up. I know the price of a used L has gone up faster than inflation has when new ones were in stock.

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Cosina is now delivering the last of the R3M & R4M back orders before the 35mm Bessas were discontinued.
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Why did they take so long to deliver the last of the stock?
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Never had or bought one but I can tell you that I spoke directly to the only official Voigtlander dealer in the country where I live on this subject two weeks ago and he said that official production has now stopped on these bodies but that he gets the odd one or two still come through in dribs and drabs from them now and then, I guess the last of the last from factory stock. If you wanted a new one, I guess this is last orders at the bar time.
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I'm just wondering whether Cosina now manufacture cameras at all or are they, like Zeiss, just producing lenses? It would be a shame if they totally dropped camera production.
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Stephen also has them in stock. I thought they were discontinued a couple of years ago?

https://shop.cameraquest.com/35mm-be...-camera-black/
Can't open that — is it because I'm in Europe and Stephen doesn't sell outside the Americas?
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Try it again. I'm in the uk and the link works.
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Thank you Pete,

I tried it again, same result, can't open it. [But perhaps both my Safari and my Firefox need an update… ?]
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I'm in Italy on Safari and the link works
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I've been looking for a used R4A for a while now as my Bessa-R finally became unreliable. Looks like I should just get the R4M instead. Hopefully Stephen has stock for another week as I'm waiting to get paid!
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I'm just wondering whether Cosina now manufacture cameras at all or are they, like Zeiss, just producing lenses? It would be a shame if they totally dropped camera production.
Cosina is a manufacturing facility. They make both Voigtlander and almost all of the Zeiss lenses.
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Thank you Pete,

I tried it again, same result, can't open it. [But perhaps both my Safari and my Firefox need an update… ?]
Links fail for a variety of reasons (your ISP for example).

In any case, CameraQuest web site says:

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Please note: we ship Voigtlander products Only to the US, Mexico, South America.
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B&H ships everywhere apart from Iran, Sudan, Cuba, Syria, North Korea and Uganda.
Not Bessa R2/3/4. Just tried - due to manufacturer restrictions blah blah... US only (or at least not to Europe)
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