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Canon Rangefinders - Peter Dechert and Peter Kitchingman Peter Dechert is best known for his Canon Rangefinder, Canon SLR, and Olympus Pen books, the latter two long out-of-print. He was a monthly columnist for many years for SHUTTERBUG magazine, and has contributed to many others. Most recently he has written about the pre-WW2 Zeiss 35mm cameras, but his interests in camera equipment and optics are many and varied. As a pro protographer and honorary life member of ASMP, Peter is also expert in using the gear! Peter Kitchingman - author of Canon Rangefinder Lens book Peter Kitchingman's 'Canon M39 Rangefinder Lenses 1939-71' book is the definitive source on these very interesting optics. His interests also go to the entire Canon Rangefinder system and beyond.

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Black Paint Canon LTM Rangefinders!
Old 11-29-2012   #1
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Black Paint Canon LTM Rangefinders!

Post your pics of your Canon black paint LEICA SCREW MOUNT Rangefinders here!










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Old 11-29-2012   #2
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Old 11-29-2012   #3
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Old 11-30-2012   #4
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NO NO NO please don't
I can't afford a black Canon P
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Old 11-30-2012   #5
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Not black, but painted here by my camera tech guy:


Model P-9 by wrs111445, on Flickr
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Canon RF BLACK Lenses

Hi Stephen,
Nice camera and I have still to get a black example for my collection BUT I have managed to procure the three black lenses.
These are a 35mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.8 and a 50mm f/1.2 and these are ONLY three lenses that Canon Inc made for there black cameras.
Each black lens was an option at the time the person bought there black camera bodies. I think why there are so many black cameras with the normal chrome lens attached, is because the purchaser bought the camera at a retail store rather than wait for a black body/lens outfit which had to be ordered ex factory.
I have been keeping tabs/database of black camera/lens combinations for sometime and it seems that they were produced in batches. This is one reason why I can tell if a black RF camera is genuine or not.
The one you have (I think the # is 706541?) is from the second batch produced.
I am not divulging the batch serial numbers as someone (most won’t) will then go out and try and procure a model within that range and have it converted. Same goes for black lenses.
There are ways of recognising fakes beside the body serial numbers.
Keep up the good work.
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Old 12-24-2012   #7
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Bill, about how much should one expect to pay for a paint job, black or green? The originals are beyond my reach but maybe a pint-o-paint ?
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Hi Stephen,
Nice camera and I have still to get a black example for my collection BUT I have managed to procure the three black lenses.
These are a 35mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.8 and a 50mm f/1.2 and these are ONLY three lenses that Canon Inc made for there black cameras.
Each black lens was an option at the time the person bought there black camera bodies. I think why there are so many black cameras with the normal chrome lens attached, is because the purchaser bought the camera at a retail store rather than wait for a black body/lens outfit which had to be ordered ex factory.
I have been keeping tabs/database of black camera/lens combinations for sometime and it seems that they were produced in batches. This is one reason why I can tell if a black RF camera is genuine or not.
The one you have (I think the # is 706541?) is from the second batch produced.
I am not divulging the batch serial numbers as someone (most won’t) will then go out and try and procure a model within that range and have it converted. Same goes for black lenses.
There are ways of recognising fakes beside the body serial numbers.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers Peter

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I was under the impression that all early Canon lenses were chrome, and all later versions were black.

(There is no later black version of the 28f2.8 lens.)

Bodies and lenses could have been bought separately, right? Not just as a package.

Edit added: I just checked my Canon lenses, and see that you are referring to the aperture control ring as being black as well. I understand now, thanks.
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I have a black painted Canon P and one in Green. Both look cool.
Coincidentally, I am using a black P since two days with a Canon35/2.
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Bill, about how much should one expect to pay for a paint job, black or green? The originals are beyond my reach but maybe a pint-o-paint ?
Sorry I didn't see your question here until today. Sometimes I get notices on threads I've subscribed to here, but mostly not.

Black, gray or green is $500, including a full CLA, plus return shipping. The guy does a lot of Leicas. He completely strips off the chrome, then primes and paints. Mine has held up very well over 5 years now. There's been no chipping or flaking off, just normal wearing thru like a factory job.
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These are a 35mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.8 and a 50mm f/1.2 and these are ONLY three lenses that Canon Inc made for there black cameras.
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Let's not forget about Canon 50mm f1.4 the standard lens for Canon7



BTW Canon 100/3.5 LTM and Canon 135/3.5 LTM are also black paint and look great on black Canon RFs
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One I painted about 3 years ago...

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Just out of curiosity, apart from knowing the serial numbers, just how does one tell a factory black body from a re-paint? Is it something that can be done from examining ebay-type photos or do you need to look closer and/or inside the camera?

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but the mention of it earlier in the thread got me wondering...
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Let's not forget about Canon 50mm f1.4 the standard lens for Canon7


Wow. Never saw an all-black 50/1.4. Even Robert's RF book misses it.

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Old 02-04-2013   #15
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Just out of curiosity, apart from knowing the serial numbers, just how does one tell a factory black body from a re-paint? Is it something that can be done from examining ebay-type photos or do you need to look closer and/or inside the camera?

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but the mention of it earlier in the thread got me wondering...
The black Canon 7 is usually easy to spot, as the black enamel is applied over raw brass. If you can spot brassing on the edges or where the paint is chipped, it's likely the real deal.

The black Canon P is different, the paint is applied over a nickel finish. The paint sticks to the nickel fairly well, but you will see silver under the worn edges. The paint does not stick well to chrome, and it is easily chipped off the chrome, and the chrome has a shinier finish than nickel.

You can see the brass on the edges of my old Canon 7,

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Good evening to all.
Here is my black 7 ; note the body and lens serials with 4 matching last digits. Also have a black VI-T, I 'll post pictures soon.
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I recently added my first black RF camera to my collection so I mounted and even rarer black 35mm f/1.8 onto my model 7.
This model 7 is from the last batch of black model 7 produced.
I have identified a possible six batches of black model 7 cameras produced during 1961-64.

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Thanks for the information, Peter. Your cameras look cool.
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any chance anyone here has been bold enough to get one of the Barnack-copies de-chromed and repainted?

i poked around online for a while but couldn't turn up anything. i know it may be travesty as the chrome that Canon applied is arguably higher quality than Leica's Barnacks. just curious how they would look -- i can't decide whether they would be gorgeous or semi-abominations...
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I have a chrome 7 but the light meter surround is black, it matches the shade/sheen as the normal black areas so I assume its factory original but I am happy to be corrected
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How to tell a repaint from the rel thing: My observation has been that IF the camera has a self timer and IF the self timer lever has a white dot at the end of it, them it is PROBABLY a factory job. True, the dot could be added, but I think the dot is in a dimple not found on a chrome lever. I'm no expert on this and could be wrong. Others observations?
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Not mine, but I love this one.

This KWANON D camera S/N 2 (probably made in 1935) was sold 29th July 2006 in an auction at Boston for 138.000 USD. This Leica Screw Mount Rangefinder camera was - if legit - predeccessor of the Hansa Canon and the Nikon I, probably the first Japanese 35mm camera. Before the auction, this camera was considered as never made (or just as a wodden dummy) or lost during the war. Maybe this is the only existing camera of Mr. Goro Yoshida, father of all Canons.

See this: http://www.klassik-cameras.de/Canon_Main.html

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Not mine, but I love this one.

This KWANON D camera S/N 2 (probably made in 1935) was sold 29th July 2006 in an auction at Boston for 138.000 USD. This Leica Screw Mount Rangefinder camera was - if legit - predeccessor of the Hansa Canon and the Nikon I, probably the first Japanese 35mm camera. Before the auction, this camera was considered as never made (or just as a wodden dummy) or lost during the war. Maybe this is the only existing camera of Mr. Goro Yoshida, father of all Canons.

See this: http://www.klassik-cameras.de/Canon_Main.html

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Wow...the body already has those Canon corners!
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Black L2

Not original black paint--- but pretty well done and I'm a big fan of the "L" series cameras. I've had the L1 and the L3 but this is my first L2. Camera came to me form Japan and had an overhaul when it was painted. Everything is smooth and works well. Here you see it with the 35mm f2.8 but I plan to use a Kyoei Acall 35mm black paint lens as the primary

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Very nice L2. Would like to do a paint shop with my L1, too. It has a ugly number engraved on the ground plate and some rost near the trigger.
I'm also looking/WTB for a all black 50/1.8 lens, to fit my black 35/1.8...
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