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Old 04-04-2012   #41
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This is my one and only 35mm lens, and I admit that I rarely use it due to its focal range. Its a joy to use, due to its speed and fantastic size.

I doubt I'll sell it off, for its good enough for a 'serious hobbyist' like myself.



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Old 04-04-2012   #42
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I have mine being shipped to me right now it says I should be getting mine about tomorrow. For a student like me, nokton seems like one of the best options.. seriously... It does not feel cheap when the tiny little thing costs more than my month's rent...
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It front focuses at 1.4 at times. Probably a user fault than anything else. It's my most used focal length on my RD1s.

Some say the Boke isn't good enough, but I wasn't complaining. ;-)
Wow the boke in the first shot is mental! It's really distracting but I like it.
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Wow the boke in the first shot is mental! It's really distracting but I like it.
I am glad you like it. Get 1 quick!
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Big BANG for the Buck...the Nokton Classic

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helen, do you like the 35 better than the 40 you had?
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Old 08-02-2012   #49
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Good lens for Fomapan 100. Never was super psyched on it with Tri-X/HP5+ but have been really enjoying it since trying a new film.
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Seems to have no more distortion than my Contax 35mm f2 G planar... Bet it's sharper at f2 too.
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Old 08-02-2012   #51
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The Planar is sharper, at all aperture, I tried them side by side.

Both suffer from brethens that are more loved. (45/2 and 35/1.2)
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I have sort of changed my mind since posting here... The distortion rarely shows up but when it does I find it quite disturbing.



Would this picture be better without the distortion? Don't know, but it bugs me like crazy. I know it's easy to correct with software but I wet print my shots (scanning is just for preview and web posting) so I really want straight lines.

I'm going to try a summilux pre-asph for a while and see how that works out.
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i have the SC version and i love the results. I love how the OOF areas are almost similar to a noctilux sometimes. A few recent shots. Tri-X @1600 in Rodinal



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Useless Generation: Great Gritty street shots..Love em !
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one of my favourite lenses!


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Old 08-21-2012   #56
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The 35mm f/1.4 Nokton was my first RF lens. I thought it was great, and only sold it in a fit of buying/selling. In reality, I had no reason to sell it. Small, fast, sharp enough for me, and very nicely built.
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Wonderful Cris !
Must Agree...I too very Much like the classic Nokton

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... favourite lens for my RFs ... so much so ive come here to find something similar in a 50 (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...65#post1987065)

Hope its ok to post these images is two threads ... thought this a good place for these images ... Taken on the rd1s


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Since getting my 50/2 Planar, the 35/1.4 feels quite soft indeed wide open, but thusly it feel more like a wider pair for my 50/1.1 Nokton - nice when you want those softer portraits. Still one of my favourite lenses.


Dunny 2012 Quick Edits / Chibi Shibby by Cris Rose, on Flickr


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I'm looking at the Biogon 25mm f2.8 atm to get a Planar-like sharpness wide open with a 35mm FOV on my M8. I love the sharpness.

However, my 35/1.4 and 50/1.1 Noktons are a soft, smooth, bokeh-tastic duo that are awesome for the look they give, when wanted - stop down to f5.6 or f8 and the 35mm sharpens up beautifully!

Everyone has a look they go for, i feel lucky that i can turn to different primes for their own strengths
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Nokton 35mm F1.4:
Distortion
Horrible Bokeh
Focus shift.

Nokton 35mm F1.2
Minimal distortion
Great Bokeh
No focus shift.
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The distortion can be very obvious, I never noticed it till someone pointed it out and now I see it all the time. But for the price and speed, can't complain! It's also very tiny which I like a lot.

It's my most used lens on the M8. 2nd most used on my M6 after 50 1.5.
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What barrel distorsion? Nokton 35f1.4 SC on a MP.
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Another shot with the Nokton 35f1.4 SC. This time stopped down to f16.Slight curve on the left hand side - but certainly not disturbingly so. It is one of the best 35's that I have (and I have many - including Zeiss/Leica/Canon/Nikon) - it does exactly what it is supposed to do - work in just about any light condition, no flare, sharp and compact.
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I'm with Tom. I use the 35/1.4 SC constantly and I ain't never seen no distortion. Also, bokeh? I'm not one who believes bokeh is all that important most of the time (jangly OOF patches of light or distinct light sources are to be watched out for, but otherwise, F8 and be there baby....) Anyway here's some 35/1.4 bokeh; I'm no connoisseur of this stuff so instruct me what's so bad about it? Obviously second is more problematic than the first, but it don't bother me none...)


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I guess what I mean about the second, above, is the bokeh problem is more the bad decision of the photographer not the lens's fault. No lens would eradicate that problem, I don't think. But again, I'm willing to take instruction on the matter. Eager, in fact.
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No it's not an under-rated lens at all. Just other lenses are over-rated.
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What people don't like about the bokeh from this lens (as I understand it) is its hard edges from point light sources ... Circles with brighter circumferences than centres bascically. You can see it in the photo I posted of my daughter on her birthday. Top left hand corner.
This also has the effect you can see in the same image where large areas of oof can have distracting edginess especially where there are areas of high contrast eg where the curtain goes over the window. A lens with "good" bokeh would soften that transition. Like more people than I expected ... These are the things I like this lens for!
I perhaps would think twice before taking a photo that had a lot of our of focus backlit foliage ... But even then the result might still be pretty, just not conventionally good!
As it goes, I should add that my images have had a touch of pp the lens isn't as "bad" as I have made it look...
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I'm with Tom. I use the 35/1.4 SC constantly and I ain't never seen no distortion.
Well, it's there. This lens gets a bad reputation about it mostly because RF lenses are generally such good performers in terms of having minimal distortion. Many people happily use (SLR) zooms that often behave much worse than the 35/1.4. I see some distortion in Tom's photos, I certainly see it in many of my own, don't see any in yours due to the content.

At one point, being spoiled by some other RF lenses, I was seriously considering replacing this lens with one that doesn't have such heavy distortion. But it doesn't bother me anymore, although I always see it in my own pictures. Now, I would just like to have a few hundred extra to buy another one. This is too good a lens to need to switch between bodies.
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Useless -- we should all be so useless. I love those shots. Meant to say so earlier.
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Hamish -- yes I can see what you're talking about; even more so in a couple of Cris Rose's pictures. And yet -- I've been looking carefully and critically at photographs since 1980 or so, far longer than I've been trying to take any -- this is not what matters to me aesthetically. I believe I've seen six or seven photographs in my life in which the smoothness of the out-of-focus area was significant enough for me to say that it adds profoundly to the beauty of the photograph. And mazel tov for those occasions. Taking a great or a good photograph does not rely on bokeh quality in my view. On the other hand I'm a stickler for many things in many other aesthetic enterprises so I should merely bow and say nothing to the "bad bokeh" charge.
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There seem to be two factions when it comes to bokeh...
One side have a distaste or anything other than the most smooth silky etc ...
The other just don't find it a factor in image aesthetic...
I am inbetween the two I do think it plays a factor in the quality of a photo, but that part is not only a positive part if it is smooth and "creamy". It can be aesthetically pleasing if its swirly, hard edged, incorrectly coloured ... Whatever!
Aesthetic is aesthetic ... If somthing looks good it looks good... bad, bad.
For the sort of subject matter I shoot I often find an unusual bokeh pleasing! It can be such a large portion of an image then why not worry about it? Why not choose a lens that renders 60%(?) of your image in a way that appeals to you?
But dont get me wrong I'm not saying everyone should have this pov ... I know many photogs who don't think or care for what's not in focus ... After all, it's out of focus so it doesn't matter ... Right?
Different strokes for different folks! I guess that's why threads like this show such polar point of views! Really what it comes down to are different prioities and ultimately different perspectives on aesthetic.
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When I first bought it I hated it 3 times in a row..

Not fair to the camera but Adaroma or whatever it's named kept selling me used ones as new... they had 15 specks of dust , saliva marks , grease on the optics and cosmetic condition had some scratches. Went for a used summilux pre asph at 1500 usd , liked it needed a repair , went back to nokton from bh photo loved it.


the thing that changed my mind most was there is a post here where the guy shows a direct comparision between summilux pre asph and nokton 1.4 sc and the bokeh actually seems nicer its at a balcony bw
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Might have just landed a new job! Please keep not liking this lens so I can get mine back for ~400.

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I agree it's an interesting lens, but at the end it didn't work for me, couldn't get over the coma it displayed wide open.

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I agree it's an interesting lens, but at the end it didn't work for me, couldn't get over the coma it displayed wide open.
Which 35/1.4 did you get instead?
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