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Leica x1 lens coating issue?
Old 08-28-2016   #1
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Leica x1 lens coating issue?

Wondering if anyone has encountered issues with the lens in the x1/2 models? I pulled mine out the other day and it appears as though a small.... Ring of coating separation as occurred on one of the inner elements. Doesn't appear to impact images, but it's concerning. It's probably 1mm thick and about 4mm round. Right in the centre. Very odd..... Just wondering if anyone has heard of this happening?
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Old 08-28-2016   #2
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I just checked my x1 but I do not see anything irregular on the lens.
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I just checked my x1 but I do not see anything irregular on the lens.
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Nor do I... Maybe a call to Leica is in order.

Good luck with the diagnosis and solution.
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Nothing like that on my X1 either, a bit curious what you've got on your lens!
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Have contacted the leica australia to see what they think on
E-Mail: info.lcau@leica-camera.com

thanks for the suggestion
hopefully its something that can be resolved.
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ill take a photo of the element after work and post it so you can see what i mean
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Not had any Issues with my X1 or X2... Be it body or lens
Very Sorry to hear
Though I am sure Leica repair will do it 'right'
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im more concerned with 'cost' if they need to replace the entire lens it wouldn't be worth fixing in my opinion...as the cost would probably outweigh the purchase of another 2nd hand unit.

does Leica charge an inspection fee?
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Old 08-29-2016   #9
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not visible in this light

but in daylight and in a little light box...


does that look like coating separation to you?
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Old 08-29-2016   #10
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That could be crack as well.
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Old 08-29-2016   #11
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hmmm, a crack? maybe, I have never seen a crack that looks like that before though....
so strange. have emailed the pictures to camera clinic in australia who are the lisenced repairer of leica products here. see what they say.
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Old 08-30-2016   #12
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Sorry to see this, to me it does look like separation.
Camera Clinic repaired my X1 when it had a flash firing all the time issue. The were awesome to deal with, I could not have been happier.
Hopefully this will turn out all OK.
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Old 08-30-2016   #13
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Yikes!

That's disappointing.

Talk about very bad luck and probably quite rare. I hope Leica takes good care of you.
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still waiting to hear back from them, however upon asking another repairer, he says it could possibly be a oil deposit, caused from exposure to extreme heat. funny....all my cameras have been treated the same way for the last 15 years and ive never had this happen, so i assume they will say its my fault and make me pay..... which makes me wonder if its worth the repair.....
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My money's on separation. Seen a lot of it over the years. That sure looks the look.

Sorry.

On the positive side, the lens will work great when light is not bad. Separation, such as what I think you have, mostly shows up as flares in your images, but not degradation of sharpness, abberations, etc. Just flare.

What causes separation like that? Aside from bad luck, its often environmental and/or a good whack. But, that's typical for the "old" lenses that used old cements. New lenses, such as the one I would expect to find in the X1, should be cemented with modern stuff. The modern cements rarely, rarely, fail. So we're back to bad luck.

Do let us know what you find out.
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as soon as i hear from them ill report back. Re: environment and whacks....
Whilst in my ownership (i bought used a couple years back) it has been in typical australian climate, hot, semi-humid summers, and warm, less humid winters. the camera has never had a good whack. And when not in use, has always been stored inside a dry environment. with plenty of silica gel packs as insurance.
it went into storage about 6 months or so ago, and then came out looking like this. not sure if it had the beginnings before it went in as i didnt notice it....
bugger.
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they think it looks like oil. and might be able to be cleaned.
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Don't despair too soon.
In the time I owned my delightful X1 it required two separate trips to be repaired. Both were sorted by Leica, one being done by Camera Clinic.
I can't speak highly enough of the service I received.
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so in my haste i have misplaced the original lens cap, crap. what diameter is the original cap? i feel like its 46mm but cant remember for sure....
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I hope it's oil. If it is, I'd ask where did the oil come from and is there a repair to fix oils leaks.
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Old 10-18-2016   #21
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so camera clinic inspected the camera, fixed my flash stowing issue for free. cleaned the sensor for free, and said the mark between elements was condensation. i dont know how that is condensation because it certainly doesnt look like it. however they have stated that there is no impact on image quality. so therefore.... not to worry about it.

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