Konica Hexar AF questions
Old 12-16-2016   #1
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Konica Hexar AF questions

I'm wanting to get a Konica Hexar AF (silent mode model) with the flash unit but I'm having trouble finding places online that have one in stock. I've looked through KEH, B&H, Adorama, Samy's, etc. So far, no dice. Are there any other reliable retailers (with a return policy preferrably) who might have one?

There are ones on eBay - but A) I'm skeptical of eBay and B) most of them come without the flash. Are there other (third party) models of flash that will work correctly with the Hexar's A and P modes?
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Look for a Nikon SB-30. 100% compatible, much smaller and easier to find. Or aim for the HX-18W, the dedicated flash for the Hexar RF.

Also, there's a similar flash for the Leica compact film cameras but I'm not sure if it's working in TTL. But, I think I saw one at mwclassic.com last night for EUR 35.


The Hexar AF portal page is here: http://johanniels.com/en/camera-gear...compact-camera
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Look for a Nikon SB-30. 100% compatible, much smaller and easier to find. Or aim for the HX-18W, the dedicated flash for the Hexar RF.

Also, there's a similar flash for the Leica compact film cameras but I'm not sure if it's working in TTL. But, I think I saw one at mwclassic.com last night for EUR 35.


The Hexar AF portal page is here: http://johanniels.com/en/camera-gear...compact-camera
Awesome! Good info. Thanks. With regards to the compact flash, do you mean the Metz 20BC6?

Also, does that SB30 need to be +/- EV corrected in any way since the flash on the Hexar isn't TTL?
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He wants the camera too. Buy it from the classifieds here and be prepared to have to DIY fix the dreaded shutter button issue. They come up regularly.
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Awesome! Good info. Thanks. With regards to the compact flash, do you mean the Metz 20BC6?

Also, does that SB30 need to be +/- EV corrected in any way since the flash on the Hexar isn't TTL?
Not really. The Hexar's flash is GN 14; the SB-30 is 16. That's a very marginal difference. You could set the camera's GN function for 16 in "flashmatic" mode (flash essentially fires at full blast but the aperture adjusts to the focused distance), but the reality is that most Japanese flashes are overrated for GN anyway. The SB-30 also has a +/- 0.5 stop adjuster you could probably also use in manual mode.

Or you could shoot on automatic. The HX-14 only has one auto mode (i.e., the flash's sensor controls brightness); the SB-30 has multiple (you can take your choice of aperture for a given distance range and ISO film).

The SB-30, though it takes a CR123A, is still a much better flash for battery life because it has a thyristor that recycles the unused flash power in auto mode. And you can get rechargeable 123As now.

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Edit: depressingly, I realize I wrote almost exactly this same thing in 2011:

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...24&postcount=9
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eBay has changed a great deal over the years. If anything, today the experience is tilted in favor of the buyer. Buy from a reputable seller (look at their feedback) and pay for your purchase with PayPal, and you have little to worry about. Don't ever pay by check or by bank transfer.

The odds of seeing one at a major retailer are slim. None of them carry anywhere near the amount of film gear as in years past.
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He wants the camera too. Buy it from the classifieds here and be prepared to have to DIY fix the dreaded shutter button issue. They come up regularly.
Yeah I almost bought one earlier this year from a member, but unfortunately I had to fix my radiator unexpectedly.

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Not really. The Hexar's flash is GN 14; the SB-30 is 16. That's a very marginal difference. You could set the camera's GN function for 16 in "flashmatic" mode (flash essentially fires at full blast but the aperture adjusts to the focused distance), but the reality is that most Japanese flashes are overrated for GN anyway. The SB-30 also has a +/- 0.5 stop adjuster you could probably also use in manual mode.

Or you could shoot on automatic. The HX-14 only has one auto mode (i.e., the flash's sensor controls brightness); the SB-30 has multiple (you can take your choice of aperture for a given distance range and ISO film).

The SB-30, though it takes a CR123A, is still a much better flash for battery life because it has a thyristor that recycles the unused flash power in auto mode. And you can get rechargeable 123As now.

Dante

Edit: depressingly, I realize I wrote almost exactly this same thing in 2011:

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...24&postcount=9
Okay, I think that would work fine for me if it comes to using the SB-30. I'm always looking for simpler/faster on-camera flash over complex/dead accurate. (Because why shoot onboard flash if you don't need light RIGHT NOW?) But, as I understand it, as long as I "upgrade" the firmware the SB-30 will work in P mode as well as A and M?

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eBay has changed a great deal over the years. If anything, today the experience is tilted in favor of the buyer. Buy from a reputable seller (look at their feedback) and pay for your purchase with PayPal, and you have little to worry about. Don't ever pay by check or by bank transfer.

The odds of seeing one at a major retailer are slim. None of them carry anywhere near the amount of film gear as in years past.
That's good to know. I get a liiiiitle nervous buying overseas (which seems to be where 90% of the Hexars are coming from) from anything that isn't a storefront. I'm noticing that a lot of auctions seem to have a 30-day return policy now.
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Japanese ebay sellers are, as a rule, top notch. It appears they all signed up for the same ebay sales seminar as they tend to use the same wording and format.
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Old 01-09-2017   #9
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I sold my 2 Konica Hexars (a black and a silver) to a guy from usedphotopro.com at the PDN photo expo in October. I don't know if they still have them but you might want to look. They were both working fine at the time, I was just trying to make up for an impulse buy of a Mamiya 6 and lens on the Bay.
If you do get one, I recommend getting a 46mm spacer (I think I got one made by Cokin) to put between the lens and any filters as apparently there's some issue about the filter maybe touching the lens otherwise.
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