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O yeah, here's my pre-order confirmation! 36 10.43%
You bet! just have to de-GAS a few gears to fund it 23 6.67%
Positively, but only when it hits street price level 65 18.84%
I don't know, I like it, but won't my APS-C buddies shun me? 50 14.49%
Heck no! I won't be caught dead with a dinky m4/3rd camera 110 31.88%
OMD? Are they coming out with a new album? 61 17.68%
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Old 04-25-2012   #481
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My OM-1, IMO is better than this OM-D....why? cause it's film
I don't understand this impulse.

Are there people who jump onto the M2 threads just to say the M9 is better because IT'S DIGITAL NEENER NEENER?
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I am relatively confident that a kraken has made off with the slow boat my EM-5 is on.
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PC Mag's review of the E-M5: new Editors' Choice
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Exclamation PC Mag's review of the E-M5: new Editors' Choice

"The Olympus OM-D E-M5 is the best Micro Four Thirds camera we've tested. It's got a top-notch stabilization system, is fully weather sealed, can shoot in all types of light, and ships with a sharp and versatile kit lens. Add it all up, and you have our new Editors' Choice for high-end compact interchangeable lens cameras."

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2403406,00.asp
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Are there people who jump onto the M2 threads just to say the M9 is better because IT'S DIGITAL NEENER NEENER?
Unfortunately, there are... and unfortunately, I've done the opposite until someone pointed it out and I felt lame.
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My goodness, Rover, I hope you get your soon
I ordered in mid March, body only, so I have some time to wait I fear. Unless I catch that kraken. Anyone have a severed cursed head I can use?
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I ordered in mid March, body only, so I have some time to wait I fear. Unless I catch that kraken. Anyone have a severed cursed head I can use?
No, but I bet once you've beaten the snot out of that kraken, you can retrieve your OM-D at the bottom of the ocean and it'll still work
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So I just got back from the Coldplay concert in Seattle and tried out my OM-D (with 12-50mm). Taking a quick look, I'm not believing what the images that I shot at 3200 & 6400 ISO look like! With this being my first attempt at video, I definitely need some practice (especially in focus lock!).

Oh yeah, the concert was fantastic!

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Played with the om-d + zuiko lens lineup today at michaels camera in Melbourne - they had the olympus reps there. Learned a few things:

1. I prefer the black finish - looks meaner.

2. Olympus rep confirmed 100% that the sensor is NOT made by Panasonic. He wouldn't say who it was made by, but hinted at Aptina. From looking at pictures on the back of the screen, the 'tone' and handling of contrast/highlights is completely different from the panasonic sensored m4/3 cameras IMO - seems more like a larger sensor camera which is excellent.

3. The EVF is very good, the AF is lightening, but annoying and unpredictable in multi mode - better in single center spot mode.

4. Body size is awesome - tiny and sharp/angular. Almost too small, but not quite.

5. The handgrip is AMAZING. Makes the camera feel near-perfect.

6. The 12mm lens actually looks good in silver with the black e-m5 body. Didn't expect that.

7. Shutter is very muffled and very nice sounding, and you can really feel the mechanism through the body. It's quite a pleasant sensation.

8. I found the menu/quick menu a little sluggish - thought my x100 menu navigation was snappier.

9. kit 12-50mm lens felt a bit yuck - zoom ring really grainy and weird.

10. The IS mechanism is incredible and so extremely effective. You can also see the effects through the EvF which is great.

11. The tilt screen is really nice - the way it works means it doesn't affect durability, and it isn't bulky or loose or anything.

I could possibly buy one for myself, after I get one for my dad. My x100 and the om-d with that 12mm f2 could be a pretty serious combo.
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rover, it could be johnny depp has your em-5 instead of a kraken ...
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Played with the om-d + zuiko lens lineup today at michaels camera in Melbourne - they had the olympus reps there. Learned a few things:

10. The IS mechanism is incredible and so extremely effective. You can also see the effects through the EvF which is great.
gavin i'm glad you had such a positive experience with the omd, i am really liking mine as i learn how to shoot it and what the optimal settings are, which really does take some time.

however i am most interested in your comment 10, as i read this in several other places as well, but i have not found that i CAN see the effect in the vf. i have no doubt there IS a very real effect, but for the life of me, turning off the IS and viewing the screen with a 135, and turning on the IS with the same lens yields no discernible difference in the 'shake' i see through the vf. it definitely makes a difference in the quality of the pictures, but i dont see any difference at all in the vf.

would you have any suggestion as to settings beyond turning on and off IS that makes the effect visible in the vf?
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Got one!

I had put my name on a list for a silver body-only at newtonville, and surprise surprise, it came in this week.

have only had time to fondle it a bit, seems lovely. it's a birthday present so my wife is not "allowing" me to take it out yet. bday is on may 8... i don't think i'll be waiting that long, but i'll humor her for a few days (maybe until the weekend )

i've got the panny 20 and leica m and nikon f adapters (all previously used on my ep1). looking forward to it.

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I couldn't vote in the poll because the options are biased towards polar extremes.

If the were a simple "don't know"...
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however i am most interested in your comment 10, as i read this in several other places as well, but i have not found that i CAN see the effect in the vf. i have no doubt there IS a very real effect, but for the life of me, turning off the IS and viewing the screen with a 135, and turning on the IS with the same lens yields no discernible difference in the 'shake' i see through the vf. it definitely makes a difference in the quality of the pictures, but i dont see any difference at all in the vf.

would you have any suggestion as to settings beyond turning on and off IS that makes the effect visible in the vf?
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Tony,

You should be able to see it, it definitely works. Just turn IS off, and have a look at a subject through the EVF and give the camera some really small vigorous shakes. Then turn it on and do the same thing - you should feel like the image in the EVF is almost 'floating' in an abnormally smooth way.
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Anyone with Lightroom 4 and the OM-D, Adobe has released Lightroom 4.1RC2 today (http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/lightroom4-1.html). It contains the undocumented addition of the RAW converter for the OM-D! I've added some JPEG conversions from RAW into the OM-D EM-5 Pics thread (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...0&postcount=49).
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I don't understand this impulse.

Are there people who jump onto the M2 threads just to say the M9 is better because IT'S DIGITAL NEENER NEENER?
I have tested out the OM-D, it's not to my liking...

Furthermore i did not mean to just say "one is better than the other." Secondly if i remember correctly this was a Poll, so expect opinions from other people...
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^ the film and robust drum is a tired one to beat (like "it's not the camera, but the photographer"). It often doesn't add much to the discussion unless a person takes the effort back it up with specific examples.

Gavin, or other OM-D users, can you program the camera so that AF has a dedicated button (i.e. separate it from the shutter release)?
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Tony,

You should be able to see it, it definitely works. Just turn IS off, and have a look at a subject through the EVF and give the camera some really small vigorous shakes. Then turn it on and do the same thing - you should feel like the image in the EVF is almost 'floating' in an abnormally smooth way.
thanks gavin, appreciate the reply. i definitely know it works, as i can absolutely see in the results.

so from your reply, the effect kicks in when you actually 'shake' the cam to see the effect, as opposed to noting the effect on one's (or better said, 'my') normal movement while focusing. thats too bad, because in reading about it i thought it would be a big boon to focusing a tele lens, like a 135 (270). when focusing these, esp at magnification, ones (read 'my') natural movement is violently exagerated in the vf, making focusing difficult. i thought you would see the IS effect in that situation, and i dont. i turn IS on and off and theres no difference in the shaky view.
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Extra size related pics I found on the web:

vs D5000 which is one of nikons smallest DSLRs:


vs 5d mkII:


vs d700:

You know what this means: gotta get rid of the goatee and the back-flipped baseball cap. :: ducks ::
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I couldn't vote in the poll because the options are biased towards polar extremes.

If the were a simple "don't know"...
Gabriel,

Use the one referring to OMD the music group.
That's for the ones who simply don't know or don't care (same weight in vote, in my view).
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Thanks Gabriel M.A. for juxtaposing the E-M5 and the Nikon. The DSLR is a hideous monster isn't it?

I am warming to the E-M5 because of its reported performance, but I still am not happy with Olympus's decision to use DSLR styling. I prefer RF look. At this point I will keep my E-P1 and see if some of these improvements filter their way into a future Pen model.
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Excuse my ignorance. Can someone tell what the material the body is made of?
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http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympusem5/

dpreview e-m5 review is up.
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The OM-D seems to be a little impressive camera. I am in particular impressed by the video capabilities and quality. My hat is off to Olympus.

I would only like to see bigger EVF (0.58x is really a bit too little) with a bit more pixels.
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Thanks Gabriel M.A. for juxtaposing the E-M5 and the Nikon. The DSLR is a hideous monster isn't it?

I am warming to the E-M5 because of its reported performance, but I still am not happy with Olympus's decision to use DSLR styling. I prefer RF look. At this point I will keep my E-P1 and see if some of these improvements filter their way into a future Pen model.
First, it was Gavin, not Gabriel who compiled the size comparison.

Secondly, it's not a DSLR styling, OM is Olympus' *film* SLR from the 70's. It's an SLR styling. IMHO there is no "styling" in a DSLR, other than *big*.
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Had black body-only order on Amazon since Feb. I saw BH had 14-42mm kit in stock (thanks to 43rumors report) so I pulled the trigger. It's now back to backordered again on their site. Mine should be here tomorrow.
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Prism is not a style affectation....

Never understand these posts about wanting a rangefinder look vs. a SLR "hump".

My understanding is that the prism like bump on the OM-D (EM5) houses the new 5 axis IBIS system. Did I hear wrong? And am I wrong to be more concerned about the images rather than the style. Well perhaps... because I do like that with the grip, it looks like the OM1's and 2's I have been packing around for many years.

I do shoot rangefinder. I have a very nice Kneb (kiev) which takes wonderful pics. And, I do try to get a roll through it at least once every two years. Not into all the current pseudo rangefincer bodies.

I like my E-PL1 PEN, but not because I can stroke myself into it's "rangefinder-like" body, but because it's produces the sharpest OOC jpegs of any camera I have tested for the last few years.
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Still hesitant about EVFs... I understand the one in the OMD is supposed to be one of the better ones, but the little I've played with them (Fuji X100) I've been disappointed by how they transformed the photographic experience to the point I would rather accept the compromises of a reflex mirror in order to preserve the analog viewing experience.
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Got the OM-D on Friday, very happy with it. BUT, having an issue with the magnify function - I put the magnify function on the FN1 button so I can have easy access to the smaller AF box. It worked fine for a couple of days and now it's only sporadically working. Then I assigned it to the FN2 button, same sporadic functioning.

I know there are a few OM-D users on RFF - anyone else have this issue? Someone else on one of the M43 boards confirmed having the same issue, I'm guessing it's not only us. I'm going to try to update the firmware tonight and see if that fixes it.
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dean, it may, i say 'may', not be a problem. when you are in a vf view that has say the 'level' or shows over/under exposure, you have to push the Fn button twice to get the green magnify box in the vf, then again to actually magnify. i dont knw why this is the case. also, once the green box is visible, turning the wheel takes it from 14x-10x-7x-5x.
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thanks for the input tony. a few more people on the other board have also noticed the issue. i think the problem we are having is that it seems to be a random number of button presses are needed until the AF box switches to the small one. once it switches we can magnify and change the amount of magnification, but getting it to switch in the first place can take a lot of button presses, two doesn't seem to do it.
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oddly enough, a recommendation to "press the button quickly" seems to be working. i'll have to see if works consistently over the next few days, i can't believe it's that simple, lol.
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Mine too!

I called Precision Camera yesterday and they had no word on when the black bodies would arrive, and then I saw the note on 43rumors about them being in stock at Adorama and though they sometimes have things listed in stock that aren't really in stock, I thought I'd give it a whirl. It worked! I cancelled my order with Precision, only to have them tell me it was in and would have shipped...so my impatience meant paying the Empire State it's due.

I chose the 43/m43 adapter as my freebie. Not really sure why. Didn't want the flash or OM adapter, thought I might get a 14-54mm II lens, dunno. Also picked up a Panny 20...funny, they sell on ebay used for the same price as they sell new. I'm going to compare the 20, which I owned before and loved, with the lux 25/1.4. Maybe keep one, maybe sell the lux and bite the bullet on the Nockon .95 if I'm really missing razor thin DOF. Bought the 14/2.5 today...at under $200 who can refuse another pancake?

I have a kit lens that I got with my E-PL3 (which is now on the block) and will play with that...it's actually quite sharp and weighs NOTHING. When I get my contax g 45 converted to Leica M back from the shop, I'll also try that and then think about the Olympus 45 for AF.

I'm actually really excited for the E-M5. I don't think it's the prettiest camera around...it's a bit heavy in the turban for me, but it sounds like function wise it's all I need and more. I compared the high iso raws in dpreview to cameras with great performance like the A580, 5n, K-5, all with the magic 16mp sony sensor, and honestly the E-M5 compares very well through 3200 (actually I can't tell a difference) and not terribly worse at 6400. In some cases it seems to resolve more detail. That should be fine.

So I'm psyched and haven't felt this much anticipation for any camera in a while. Olympus hasn't wowed me since the E-1, though I liked the E-5 and E-P1.

Anyway, the quicker I got to sleep, the quicker it will get here!
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