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Old 01-11-2017   #1
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ipad mini question

is there any way to 'clean up' an ipad mini...one of the originals?
it works but seems sluggish at times (more often than not these days)...
on my mac mini i clean up the disk drive and it purrs along.
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You could do a full factory reset.
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Yes: do a factory reset and re-install your app and data. It's only rarely necessary, but if you're jamming the machine up to its storage limits, it can help.
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Is there software like CleanMyMac3 for iPad?
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Do you know that there are apps running in the background unless you shut them down? Double click the home button and swipe up the apps you don't want or need open. Might help.
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Is there software like CleanMyMac3 for iPad?
No.

CleanMyMac3 is a file system utility for the open file system model on macOS.

iOS implements the file system in a 'sandbox' model for each each app. That way, each app has access to just the data that it needs and uses. A file system management utility like CleanMyMac3 is not only a bit difficult to create for iOS, it's also generally unnecessary.

The usual cause for sluggishness in an iPad mini is that there are too many apps lingering in memory and/or too little free space in storage left. Apps lingering in memory are dormant and use only extremely little processing power, but they chew down on the available RAM for the front most app and can be issuing or handling notifications. Too little free space in storage causes the iOS virtual memory operation to run inefficiently.

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I used to have that problem and double clicked the home button and took off the pages that appeared. When I upgraded to IOS 10.2 this problem seemed to go away.

I still double click the home button every so often to clear things out.
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i have 19gb left out of 27gb...
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i have 19gb left out of 27gb...
That's not the important measure.

Double click the home button. Shows all the apps still running. Swipe up to kill them one by one. Then see how responsive the iPad is.
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kill my apps? what if i want to keep them?
can i just stop them from running in the background?
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One of the thins I've noticed that has stopped me from taking update to my iPhone 5 is that the new iOS versions seem to run slower on older systems. I see it on all technology, but to me it more apparent on iOS systems.

Can't add more system RAM, no virtual memory setting you can tweak, or ability to assign more memory to specific programs, so none of my usual tricks work.

I'm on an iPad 2 right now for browsing and reading and it's slow, but I got it refeburished for about $100 USD and I like iOS much better than android for much of what I want/need to use a tablet for.

No magic answer, sorry.

With that said, some one might have much better "geek-fu" than I do and would love to learn.....

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One of the thins I've noticed that has stopped me from taking update to my iPhone 5 is that the new iOS versions seem to run slower on older systems. I see it on all technology, but to me it more apparent on iOS systems.

Can't add more system RAM, no virtual memory setting you can tweak, or ability to assign more memory to specific programs, so none of my usual tricks work.

I'm on an iPad 2 right now for browsing and reading and it's slow, but I got it refeburished for about $100 USD and I like iOS much better than android for much of what I want/need to use a tablet for.

No magic answer, sorry.

With that said, some one might have much better "geek-fu" than I do and would love to learn.....

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That's how Apple operates. Old hardware gets bloated by new updates. It's better not to update, if you want to keep the machine swift. If you want to be up to date AND quick, then...
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That's how Apple operates. Old hardware gets bloated by new updates. It's better not to update, if you want to keep the machine swift. If you want to be up to date AND quick, then...
All computer hardware brands operate that way. It's called progress.

Do we expect Apple to use old technologies when no one else does? App developers on all OS platforms add more features and to take advantage of more powerful CPUs.

Slower, less capable CPUs are... well, slower and less capable.

iOS updates are required to maximize on-line security. Avoiding updates is a terrible idea.

I have repurposed several older/ancient iOS products for home theatre/TV remotes, and a virtual FM tuner in my office and even an iPhone 4 (no internet or mobile service) just for music in my car.

I hope Joe's problem is solved by the advice in this thread. Some apps are not optimized for the most recent iOS version. The device will display a warning message that those apps can reduce performance.
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kill my apps? what if i want to keep them?
can i just stop them from running in the background?
Sorry for any confusion. The action I suggested is equivalent to "Quit" on a computer.

The double-click and swipe action I suggested won't interfere with running the apps again in the future. If you tap the app, it will start-up again.

The issue is you probably have 50 apps running on your iPad, every app you have ever launched. Some of these are dormant in the background, some running background, taking processor cycles.

There is another possible action: Removing apps from the device. You might want to do this if running out of storage. From your comment above, this is NOT a problem with your device.
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To anyone interested in iOS device performance: I highly recommend the Genius bar or telephone support from Apple. I always purchase "Apple Care" on portable devices. With Apple Care you get unlimited tech support.
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That's how Apple operates. Old hardware gets bloated by new updates. It's better not to update, if you want to keep the machine swift. If you want to be up to date AND quick, then...
Actually old hardware gets longer lifespan with new versions of iOS, as developers have more to optimise the software and iron out the bugs. + bring security updates to keep bad guys at bay.

When some device is too outdated for latest and greatest, it won't be possible to update it anymore.
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I've got two Apple products that are too old to get updates. Both are hardly ever used on the internet anymore. But they run Photoshop just fine! CS-4.
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Actually old hardware gets longer lifespan with new versions of iOS, as developers have more to optimise the software and iron out the bugs. + bring security updates to keep bad guys at bay.

When some device is too outdated for latest and greatest, it won't be possible to update it anymore.
While what you say is true, compared to say Android, what i said is also true. Updates require faster cpu's and more memory. Your old phone, if updated, will become slow and tedious; not the experience that an Apple customer generally wants, but like you said may want security updates. So we have the stuck in the middle dilemma. By updating older phones they are actually nudging people to the latest version of the phone.
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While what you say is true, compared to say Android, what i said is also true. Updates require faster cpu's and more memory. Your old phone, if updated, will become slow and tedious; not the experience that an Apple customer generally wants, but like you said may want security updates. So we have the stuck in the middle dilemma. By updating older phones they are actually nudging people to the latest version of the phone.
Android world is quite plural in this regard. Samsung seems to prefer sell you new phone, rather than improving their old ones. my two+ year old Nexus phone was kept up to date nicely by Android parent company Google. I think it received two major OS versions since I bought it (it wont receive latest one anymore, but security updates are coming in as before). same approach really what Apple is doing with iPhones.
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A tweet I just read:
Another windows update. Yay.
Made my computer, once lightning fast, slow and barely responsive.
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Power off and reboot every week or two helps iPad and iPhone with best operation and memory management.

Double click Home and sweep up is primarily intended for apps that are hung. Some apps set much larger memory as they run over time.
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Check "Manage Memory" in Settings. This will show you how much memory each of the apps is using. You can delete the app and reinstall it to clear out some of the memory it is using. Also, as IOS continues to update, the older processors will only keep up for so long before you're looking at replacing the current device.
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I just looked and couldn't find Manage Memory in Settings.
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I just looked and couldn't find Manage Memory in Settings.
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One other item that can slow down your iPad is an e-mail that is stuck.

If you've recently sent an e-mail with a large attachment (photo), it can get hung up and slow down your device.
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One other item that can slow down your iPad is an e-mail that is stuck.

If you've recently sent an e-mail with a large attachment (photo), it can get hung up and slow down your device.
Before sending any attachment or photo by email, open Apple Mail Sent and make sure it has "Updated Just Now" or your sending may hang in Mailboxes Outbox.
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when i double click the home button, many apps along with mail and safari show...i can flip back and forth from one to another but i don't see a way to quit them?
i tried the swipe but nothing happens.
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when i double click the home button, many apps along with mail and safari show...i can flip back and forth from one to another but i don't see a way to quit them?
i tried the swipe but nothing happens.
After double Home you have to swipe shrunken individual apps straight up and pretty precisely. That should close the one you swipe.
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After double Home you have to swipe shrunken individual apps straight up and pretty precisely. That should close the one you swipe.
swiping up worked...
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After double Home you have to swipe shrunken individual apps straight up and pretty precisely. That should close the one you swipe.
I may be wrong but I think it was only first generation I products that quitting apps like that made any difference. The easy thing to do is backup using a computer and iTunes factory reset then only install the apps you actually use.
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well, i took off a bunch of apps that i never use...a few that i rarely use and left on the ones i use/need.
i quit all apps by swiping...tonight i'll use the ipad mini while i watch tv and see if i have affected any change.
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I may be wrong but I think it was only first generation I products that quitting apps like that made any difference. The easy thing to do is backup using a computer and iTunes factory reset then only install the apps you actually use.
Of course it could just be boken
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Pro geeks like John Siracusa say to leave apps open and only close them if they hang, that idle apps do nothing.

Off and then reboot is the most important to maintain operation. My Gen 3 iPad needed that once a week. Not the force off, just use the sleep button, hold it down until the power off swipe switch appears on the screen.
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kill my apps? what if i want to keep them?
can i just stop them from running in the background?
What Col. Moran said: By killing the apps as he described, you're not removing them from the device and not preventing them from being run again. You're just removing them from RAM where they might be slowing things down.

iOS does not have the macOS notion of "quit" in an app's environment and there's no system setting to say "when I shift another app frontmost, quit the app I was in." It would be difficult to implement that and likely not a good user experience because it would slow down the startup for a lot of apps, and it *might* lose some data along the way. So every once in a while, it's a good idea to kill apps that are in memory manually. The system gets better and better at cleaning things up and reducing the impact of apps in RAM with each succeeding version, but it's still a good thing to do now and then.

(My iPhone 6 shipped with iOS 8 IIRC and I've updated it through at least two major releases since. It's been improved in responsiveness and speed with each OS update. The iPhone 5 was a major change of hardware, so if you're running an older piece of hardware than that, yes: the latest OS either won't install at all or will run less than optimally. The iPhone 5 was introduced 4.5 years ago, which is longer ago than most people hold onto mobile phones...)

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2 interesting observations from last night.
the 'touch' factor on the screen seems much less sensitive than when i originally got it...and the most problems i had with the desensitized screen and sluggish page movement was on facebook.
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2 interesting observations from last night.
the 'touch' factor on the screen seems much less sensitive than when i originally got it...and the most problems i had with the desensitized screen and sluggish page movement was on facebook.
"Seems" is hard to quantify. You need to figure out some mechanism to quantify the behavior. (My systems don't have any degradations in their touch sensitivity or responsiveness with the latest iOS revisions. If anything, they're improved.)

It wouldn't surprise me if the FB interface has become slower. They keep adding more and more stuff to it. On my systems, it's a pig.

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It wouldn't surprise me if the FB interface has become slower. They keep adding more and more stuff to it. On my systems, it's a pig.

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I would have to agree with Joe, but as you say very hard to quantify. FB just keeps becoming more complicated, but they do not update the software.

FB does much faster on my iPhone SE (A9 chip), than on my mini ipad 2 (A7 chip), so processing power appears to be a factor.
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