Anybody try this yet?
Old 05-25-2017   #1
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Anybody try this yet?

http://www.filmtoaster.photography/p...nal1?imageID=0

I may give it a try when I've saved up enough bucks
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Old 05-25-2017   #2
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It is disgustingly overpriced. You can buy a real film scanner for that, less if you only want to do 35mm.

This thing is a box with a light and some film holders. That's it. No camera, no macro lens. Figure a couple thousand for a camera and $800 for a macro lens, plus a grand for this box. MUCH much more than a film scanner costs.
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Old 05-25-2017   #3
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Excellent find. I do like the name. If it made toast, it might be interesting.


Hope they didn't cash someones college fund in to get this off the ground.
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Old 05-26-2017   #4
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It reminds me of Videotoaster, some video editing software for the Commodore Amiga of the 80s.
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Sorry, Chris, I don't have 23k or so for the Hasselblad/Imacon, assuming that would meet your definition of a "real scanner.) I'm just looking to use my camera and macro lens to digitize about 1k pictures from days gone by. And yes, I know about the quite inexpensive means to do that as shown on YouTube. Also I'm not interested in a debate/discussion about the Toaster; just asking if anybody here had tried it.
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It reminds me of Videotoaster, some video editing software for the Commodore Amiga of the 80s.
My first thought. lol
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For 23k I could buy about 15 Plusteks that will do 120 as well..
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hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Old 05-26-2017   #9
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Haven't tried, but seems easy to build. Probably will add it to my list of pending proyects.
ummm.. probably could add a auto advance ...

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I got my canoscan 8600F used for 60 including postage. It scans MF too. $1000 for a box with a light bulb is laughable...
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Sorry, Chris, I don't have 23k or so for the Hasselblad/Imacon, assuming that would meet your definition of a "real scanner.)
Instead of making snarky comments in an attempt to look witty, you would do well to listen to the advice of those who know more than you do. There are numerous real film scanners available for FAR less than the Imacons.

Plustek makes a 120 scanner for about $1900 new at B&H.

They make a 35mm scanner for about $300.

You could buy a used Nikon 120 scanner (8000 or 9000) for a couple thousand.

As for 'not wanting a debate,' well too bad, you're getting one. If you ask if people have used a piece of equipment, then you should want to know why no one has used it. I can promise you that NO ONE at RFF has been dumb enough to buy that device. I've explained why twice now.

If you want to use a digital camera to scan film, then do it. You can do it without a $2000 box with a $50 light inside.
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From what I understand of the blurb, you have to pay extra for an AC adaptor. Am I right in thinking this is necassary to plug the thing into the mains?

In short:

"$999.00, and it doesn't even come with a plug?"
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Chris, thank you so much for your erudite commentary. You are a treasure of information. I don't know what I'd do without it. Have a good day. Apparently you didn't get the part that I don't want to do scanning. LOL LOL LOL
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Chris, thank you so much for your erudite commentary. You are a treasure of information. I don't know what I'd do without it. Have a good day. Apparently you didn't get the part that I don't want to do scanning. LOL LOL LOL
You know, people who have commented on this thread, myself included, are trying to help you. Really. Its too bad you can't comprehend that.

You're new here. You'll find that there are a lot of people like me with VERY extensive experience and deep knowledge who are willing to share it all, for free. There are also those who, when told the truth by someone who knows what he's talking about, spit on that person and refuse to listen. They don't tend to last long.
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I'm quite sure you could get great results without that piece of equipment. Nikon makes a bellows with a slide copier attachment that can often be found used for much less money.
Take a look at this page.
http://www.throughthefmount.com/arti..._digitise.html
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@Chris: Well, I've been here since 2012 and I'll be here as long as I choose, thank you very much. So far as you're concerned and any additional commentary you might direct to me, I'm off the grid.

@Stuart John: thank you very much for your help. I appreciated especially the link illustrating the comparative outcomes of scanning v. digitising.
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@Chris: Well, I've been here since 2012 and I'll be here as long as I choose, thank you very much. So far as you're concerned and any additional commentary you might direct to me, I'm off the grid.

@Stuart John: thank you very much for your help. I appreciated especially the link illustrating the comparative outcomes of scanning v. digitising.

So instead of addressing anything I said (which you can't do without admitting I was right), you're going to act like a poorly-bred child and cover your ears and stamp your feet. Nice.
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It reminds me of Videotoaster, some video editing software for the Commodore Amiga of the 80s.
I remember to see them in nineties at NAB. It was more like a startup of something which became available only recently.
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Save yourself about $700-800 and get a decent copy stand instead.
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Peter, yes, I saw that BH has a really nice and inexpensive stand made by Albinar for like $200 by the time it gets to me. There is a really nice light pad from Artograph for about $90. Secure the negative to the light pad, oriented "square" the lens via a ruler level on both the base of the stand and the lens relative to the negative, make sure the film is flat (Better Scanning glass?), use a tethered hookup to my iMac and fire away. Lots cheaper than the Toaster. I've not done this before, so I may well be skipping out of some other steps, but, given what I have to digitise, it's likely to take a lot less time than scanning. Any thoughts you have, I'd be glad to hear. Thanks (Parenthetically I spent time w/ 2ID at Camp Casey 4 years back. I regret that I didn't get to spend time in Seoul apart from processing through Yongsan and the ride from Incheon thereto. I'd've like to check out the camera shops.)
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Here's a couple relevant ongoing threads:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=148962
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=161028

Camera shops in Seoul are fun to browse, but they overcharge and I'm not a good haggler
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Peter, thanks again very much for your helpful information. As seems so often the case, at the end of the day, it's six of one and half-a-dozen of the other vis a vis scanning on the one hand and digitising on the other. I appreciate your help
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Well, not trying to cause any animosity here, but I would agree with Chris that the Film Toaster is really quite very overpriced. If I were intent on digitizing my negatives via a digital camera, I would seek out another option.

And I have. I got a Leica BEOON from a fellow RFF member (thanks Gary!) and use it for some of my digitizing. I also have a scanner (Minolta Scan Dual IV) that does nicely for much of my 35 stuff. I was hoping to use my flatbed scanner for medium format and large format, but its just too disappointing to continue with it. So, MF happens with the BEOON and an EL Nikkor 50/2.8 and LF with a copy stand.

I used my copy stand with a light table and whatever digital camera I had at the time to scan various negatives. I still use this setup for 4x5, although not often. The current digitizing camera is a Nikon D700, which honestly doesn't give much better results than my Olympus EP-2. But I'm done with the 4x5 until late summer at least.

Anyway, Chris is right. I'm surprised that FilmToaster thing is still out there. Suggests there are people who have bought it. Interesting.
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frank-grumman thanks for starting this thread. Just realized I have one of those I haven't used in years... it's called a Chromega. Flip that baby for wall projection, replace the lens board with my camera and I have a set up for any film size I've ever used. And adjustable filtration to boot.
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