Old 12-05-2010   #41
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and one that is coated. They are out there.

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I got one from Igor for a nice price. Now to find time to use it.
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Old 12-06-2010   #42
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I love my summar:





It is my go to lens for classical character and lessening the digital effect on my M8.
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Thanks for Noticing my Summar Tim & Robert !!
can't Thank YOU Enough Robert for selling me this Fabulous Lens...It certainly has become A FAV

I agree Tim, that the combo of Summar & Planar will be Great for Portraits
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I've sort of sworn off adding new lenses to my kit. But I'm starting to think I may make an exception for either the 50 Summar or a 35/3.5 Summaron. Have to start looking for a beat-up copy of either/both.
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Old 12-07-2010   #45
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Some colour shots I did when I first got the lens two years ago (in this case it was attached to my 1942 Leica IIIc)



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A few more Summar photos. I love this lens!





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Beautiful Colour in Mr Fibble's & Mgibuena Photos
The Summar Renders Light Exquisitely....
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I didn't get far today so just snapped this with my Summar on my Lumix G1 1/800 @ f2.0. Cropped & touched up in LR3

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Old 12-20-2010   #49
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I like your shots Mr. Fibble! Great color!
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Old 01-02-2011   #50
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Shot wide open on tmax 100. Developed in DD-X 1:4 for 7min.

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Old 01-21-2011   #51
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A couple of Summar shots (on Lumix G1 so equivalent to 100mm) taken today, bright sunlight but 4degC



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How does one recognise a coated Summar from an uncoated? Is it by serial number alone?

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Old 02-02-2011   #53
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How does one recognise a coated Summar from an uncoated? Is it by serial number alone?

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No, many of the uncoated Summars were coated at the factory at a later date, apparently it was an affordable upgrade at some time.

It is by sheen on the glass elements. The difference between an uncoated ('plain' glass) and a coated one ('blueish' hue on glass) is quite distinct.

From a certain production date on (which date?) they were all coated though.
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Around serial number 600,000 is there Leica lenses were getting pretty consistently coated.
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Old 02-10-2011   #56
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Ah, Summar
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Oooh Roger!

That first B&W shot is superb!
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Posted it here before but this thread seems more appropriate.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/5367127875/

I should note this was taken with an old Walz filter in front of the lens. I'm sure this impacted image quality. Given how nice the glass is, I don't want to use it without a filter but I am still holding out for a modern, multicoated one.
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Old 02-11-2011   #59
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I am still holding out for a modern, multicoated one.
One option that I use on my Summar is a step up ring to 37mm filters.
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Oh gee! Now I want one of those Summar's! Those are some nice renditions!
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Old 02-14-2011   #61
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I love my Summar, it's an easy way to get that vintage look.

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Old 02-14-2011   #63
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It's a sharp lens, maybe as sharp as a 'cron at f/5.6. I have some shots which you could cut yourself on. Flare is its real problem due to the lack of coating.
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Roger is that first shot without a filter? Beautiful capture!
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Yes, it's a straight shot and a commercial print on Kodak 400 chromogenic film. The texture of the undergrowth is due to frost.
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Fort Veldhuis, 2009. Leica IIIc and Summar, probably Kodak BW400CN


Indeed; No complaints about sharpness when stopped down to f/5.6 and smaller
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Thanks for the info Roger :]
I especially like the flare of the setting/rising sun it really gives the image its dreamy quality.

Im thoroughly impressed with everyones photo's!
Cant wait to finish my test roll with my new Summar and post a few!
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Lovely pix here. This lens is very special.



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That first B&W shot is superb!
I second that!
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Old 03-12-2011   #70
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I haven't shot any color with it yet, but I'm really loving the Summar.

Its been much sharper than I expected. I think this was shot around f/2.8. It would probably be sharper if I hadn't shot FP4 at 400 thinking I had Tri-X loaded.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/5519435494/


Not much flare shooting into the sun. This was with a Hoya filter on the lens as well.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/5519437324/

At the same time, the lens still has a wonderful, older feeling to it. The lower contrast works nicely for me.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/5521439819/

Even works well when photographing company events, like those days in the lunch room making ice cream with liquid nitrogen. Love the bokeh I get with this lens - it hasn't been distracting at all.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/5522029670

To be totally honest, I didn't think I was going to like this lens. I'm not big on soft lenses, swirly bokeh, excessive flare... and it turns out I haven't had issues with any of that yet. Maybe I've just been lucky with what I was shooting or perhaps the lens is better condition than most, but I'm seriously falling for this Summar!.
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The ideal subject for the Summar is flowers, specifically bluebells (which have theiur own "glow" already because they're slightly fluorescent). So you need to go down to the woods in late April.

Not my pics, but

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru....php?p=1348850
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Old 03-13-2011   #72
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Shot recently with Summar on IIIa with an old leitz black rim yellow (factor of 2) filter on 400Tmax. Like the old vintage feel to it. Lens can be quite sharp if you nail it right, especially at the center.





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Old 05-31-2011   #74
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A few more:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/5779402553


http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/5779402883


http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/5519435494/

..and into the sun to see what sort of flaring we get:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/5519437324

I'm still loving this lens!
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I've just shot a semi-scientific (heavy tripod, cable release, USAF test chart at 2 metres) comparison of the Summar, Summicron DR and Elmar red scale at f/2 (where applicable), f/4 and f/8. I'll post the results when the film is developed but I *think* the Summar may surprise everyone at f/4 and f/8, although the Summicron DR is legendary.

One pleasing thing is that all three lenses focused exactly the same with the rangefinder. Originally I was going to scale focus, using a tape measure from the film plane, but since there was perfect agreement (and I've previously checked the rangefinder with at least one of the lenses and a tape measure), I decided the focus was accurate enough anyway. The M focusing patch (sorry, I know this is an LTM board) is much more accurate if you use it as a split-image rather than as a coincidence device; the latter is very inexact.

My unscientific opinion based on shooting with the Summar is that it is the sharpest of my 50mm lenses - right down to film grain level at f/4. Here's a small unsharpened 100% scan at 3600ppi. That's a six FOOT by four FOOT print.

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Here you go: how sharp is a Summar?

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=107281

The answer is "very", but avoid f/2 if you possibly can.
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Here you go: how sharp is a Summar?

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=107281

The answer is "very", but avoid f/2 if you possibly can.
But does anyone choose a Summar for sharpness, or to use stopped down?
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Old 06-18-2011   #78
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gorgeous shots, this is a nice lens that has a wonderful feel to its signature.
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pity they are so hard to find without damaged glass (scatches, cleaningmarks etc)
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You have to find one that isn't scratched - apart from that, they clean up pretty well because there are no coatings to deteriorate. CRR Luton will polish and (if you want, although I can't see the point) coat a damaged front element on a Summar.
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