Old 05-08-2010   #81
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Old 09-05-2010   #82
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135mm
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Focusing scale - Meters
Aperture Range - f/4.5 - f/36
Elmar
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And of course no rangefinder coupling.

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Old 10-09-2010   #83
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Black Elmar 9cm / f=4.0 #516333, 1939. Uncoated. Scaled in meters. Lovingly dubbed 'fistful of tele'.

Looking for correct front and rear caps advice: flat front cap? Black paint? Was that rear cap metal or bakelite? Black or chrome?
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Black Elmar 9cm / f=4.0 #516333, 1939. Uncoated. Lovingly dubbed 'fistful of tele'.

Looking for correct front and rear caps advice: flat front cap? Black paint? Was that rear cap metal or bakelite? Black or chrome?
Johan, for that year it was the bakelite caps, front and back.

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Old 10-25-2010   #85
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Johan, for that year it was the bakelite caps, front and back.

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Bummer, mine has brass both ends.... # 517457 - 90mm f4, single coatted (factory retro?). Really must get out and use this soon!
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Hi,

My very clean Elmar 9cm f/4 shows the number 519329 (original front and rear caps in bakelite).

It goes from f/4 ; f/4,5 ; f/6,3 etc. to f/36. Distance scale is in meters.

By the way, this is my oldest Leica lens (last third of 1939? 1940?). So, no "click stop" for the f-ring is normal, right?
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Here's my latest Black Barreled f4.5/135 Hektor "Flat Black" painted and coated WW2 *LEFTOVER/CARRYOVER* lens serial #576151 delivered on 17.01.46 to a
PFC (Private First Class) in the US Ocupation Forces.
(oddly this lens was only like 37 serial numbers after the 1944 Grey Paint f4.5/135 Hektor I just sold)
This is the late wartime issue type Hektor with the Flat Black paint, (very hard to find in good condition) this one's got really clean paint (almost mint) and has very nice shooting glass and vintage coating.

It will look great on one of my postwar 1945 IIIC K chrome non-stamped bodies with a "Black Nose" VIOOH finder

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Elmar 13.5cm f/4.5 142148 nickel distance scale.

"Thin" Elmar 9cm f/4 296278, black barrel, chrome scale and mount.

Others are earlier models without external serial numbers.
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I have one about 71 lenses younger than LateComers, back on page 2. Same description.

Unfortunately the glass isn't in great shape - somewhat hazy - and the aperture is stuck full open. I haven't been able to get it open and cleaned yet. Given its condition and how little these go for, I don't know if I'd bother sending it in for work.
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Old 02-28-2011   #90
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Elmar 9cm f/4.0 1937 s/n 373858



Have you seen this thread on the Leica camera forum?

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...kes-elmar.html
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Old 10-27-2011   #91
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1 for the record

Here is the information and some findings for my 1946 Hektor:

f=13,5cm 1:4,5
Serial 608109
Coated
Flat black paint
Bakelite caps

Take notice of the serial number in the thumbnail. The # "1" has orange ink and the spacing between it and the other numbers doesn't look the same.

Also I have a thumb of the Hektor mounted on the IIIa with the Viooh finder.

Here is a sample picture taken with it the other day

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Old 12-14-2011   #92
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Bought this one for awesome 22euro on ebay
glass is in quite good condition, no fungus, almost no cleaning marks and almost no haze



Elmar
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-f/4 - f/36
-636904 (year 1947)
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No. 355818

Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Elmar f=9cm 1:4 No 355818, uncoated. Just back from a CLA, it handles like a dream. Continuous f stops: 4, 4.5, 6.3, 9, 12.5, 18, 25, 36. Distance scale in feet.
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Old 03-30-2012   #94
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Black Hektor

f=13,5cm 1:4,5 (coupled)

Nr. 700414 (1949) Coated

Focusing scale: Feet

Found at KEH for a grand total of $29.95
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Old 04-24-2012   #95
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serial number 450083 elmar f4/9cm marked in feet, painted black, coupled. when i unscrewed the lens carrier (if that is the correct term), on the inside of the barrel it is written in pencil "083" then "90"
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Black Elmar 9cm f/4. Uncoated.
Sr. 565406, marking in Meters.
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Old 10-27-2012   #97
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Sorry I didn't notice this sticky earlier - I've had these for a couple of years now:

9cm, Meters, #676265 (1948), Coated

13.5cm, Meters, #310997 (1936), Uncoated
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Old 11-27-2012   #98
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Serial number: 609474 (1946)
Focal length: 9cm
Aperture range: f/4 - f/36
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Old 12-29-2012   #99
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So now I have two very early Elmars 135mm. Or rather an uncoupled numberless 135mm (meters, possibly 1390, scratch no. 41316) and a coupled 13,5cm (feet, possibly 1932 or '33 no. 142101).

The latest just arrived today from a misnamed Ebay auction. It is not a Hektor! So it may well be that all Elmars have the slightly shorter mount.

Since I am not that much of a collector, the appearantly very rare uncoupled version is for sale. Please make me an offer.

cheers, Rob.
That one is mine now. It's in the mail.

EDIT: It's mine now period. And not in the mail anymore I'll post shots later.
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I've just purchased a coated Hektor 13.5 cm f/4.5 lens:
-flat black paint, with flat grey paint with black numbers (1.5 mtrs-infinity)
on the focus barrel, chrome band and chrome screw mount. Black bakelite front cap, chrome rear screw mount cap. Serial number: 600501 (same number inside the helical mount when lens is removed). The lens is NOT stamped "Made in Germany." Is this from 1945 or 1946? This lens is in very nice condition...minimal wear, no brassing or scratches on the barrel, and the glass shows no scratches, just some minor dust between the elements. I'm looking forward to using this.
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This is a great forum - another thread I only now discovered.

I have this Elmar 9cm which according to its serial number (221734) is from 1934. The aperture scale goes from 4 to 36 and the distance scale is in metres. I have the front (bakelite?) and rear (metal, appears to be painted) caps. I posted about it at LUF because I was wondering about the paint.

I am not sure if the lens is coated - what do you think? It could have been done after the war. I bought it with my Leica II which originally was issued as a Leica I in 1931 but was converted in 1950. In the outfit case were also a Summitar and a 2,8cm Hektor, both from 1950, so it could be that a previous owner had this lens coated when the camera was sent in for upgrade (here's a link to a post about the full outfit).

Included was also a Hektor 13,5cm, black no. 486694, aperture scale 4,5-36 and also with metric distance scale. I haven't photographed the Hektor specifically but will do so and post an image or two. I am quite sure this lens is coated.

A slightly larger image is on my flickr.


9cm Elmar f4, no. 221734 (1934)
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As promised here's the photo of the Hektor 13,5cm.


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Elmar, f 4-36, 9cm, mtr, SN 374119 (1937), uncoated
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I JUST received this in the mail on Thursday, it's an amazing lens!

Leica Leitz Elmar ELANG 9cm f4 "Thin" flat black US Army issue #5964xx (ca. November/December 1945) with original black bakelite caps, FIKUS adjustable lens hood and that pretty and rare *butterscotch colored* lens keeper/container.

The lens is like Mint Minus/EX+++ with *minty* shooting glass, which is really a rare find for a flat black lens of this age/era, most of the time they are always beat up looking when I see them.

I was offered this one which came out of a private collection, I saw the condition and I jumped on it.

I put this on my M8 right away and stepped outside to do some "tests" and here's how they turned out, these are pretty much straight out of the camera, with no PS.









And some in camera *infrared* with just the darkest red A36 filter Leitz made in 1945, I think it's the Rd filter?



Overall a great little performer, I cannot wait till I can shoot some Retro PinUp potraits with this lens sometime.

Sorry for the filthy looking photos, my M8 is full of dirt and dust, which never seems to go away, I use blowers and the dirt still stays, I sent it to Leica NJ. twice to be cleaned and it came back dirty, I guess it'll always have spots on photos when it's stopped below f4?

Enjoy the lens!

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I have a nice black 135 Hektor, SN715627, which puts it at 1949 I believe. The scale is calibrated in feet. I had not realized before seeing this one that the black LTM lenses were still made that late.



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Old 11-24-2013   #106
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I just got a 135 Hektor from Adorama in excellent condition.
Serial #415898 (1937)
f/4.5, 6.3, 9, etc.
meter scale
Despite the serial # it appears to be coated. (?)
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9cm Elmar, S/no. 592897, Mtrs, F4,9,18,36, etc., coated. Original red cardboard Elmar 9cm "Elangkup" box.

13.5cm Hektor S/no. 172256, Feet, F4.5,9,18,36, etc., uncoated.

13.5cm Hektor S/no. 325306, Mtr, F4.5,9,18,36, etc., uncoated.

Any explanations on why the 9cm box is labeled "Elangkup" rather than the usual "Elang" would be appreciated.
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9cm Elmar, S/no. 592897, Mtrs, F4,9,18,36, etc., coated. Original red cardboard Elmar 9cm "Elangkup" box.

13.5cm Hektor S/no. 172256, Feet, F4.5,9,18,36, etc., uncoated.

13.5cm Hektor S/no. 325306, Mtr, F4.5,9,18,36, etc., uncoated.

Any explanations on why the 9cm box is labeled "Elangkup" rather than the usual "Elang" would be appreciated.
Hi,
According to Jim Lager's book, the "kup" in the codeword denotes rangefinder coupling, which was introduced in 1932. The ELANG referred to the previous model with the standardized mount for the Leica model C. He says that the codeword changed back to ELANG by 1934-35 because all lenses were by then coupled. However, your SN would appear to indicate a later lens (1942 by the usual Leica lens charts). Is the correct SN for that lens also on the box? Perhaps box is not original to that particular lens?
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Thanks Martin,
There is no number at all on the box (which I still believe is original, due to the lens's history).
Your dating the lens to 1942 though, prompted my memory. I was once told that during WWll, Leitz were using all kinds of old stock parts to make their products. I suppose it could be that this extended to the containers in which they supplied their lenses.
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Newbie! Just picked up a 9cm Elmar #411990 (1937) for a bargain price. The glass looks good but the focus scale is very wonky. The screw on the focus scale between 1.25 and 1.5 mtr is missing, there is some minor play in the focusing ring. Is there a fairly simple way of fixing this.
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