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Old 02-13-2017   #1
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Opinion on W-Nikkor 3.5cm F3.5

I am looking at getting a wide angle for my Nikon RF and narrowed down to either the 35mm 2.5 or the 3.5. I read that the 2.5 is a fantastic lens, but there's not much reviews on the 3.5. Any regular user of this lens? What's your opinion re: this lens? Worth the buy or get a 2.5 or 1.8 instead? Sample photos? Thanks.


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Old 02-13-2017   #2
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Get a W-Nikkor 3.5cm F1.8 and you're done. Its the best of the Nikon RF 35mm lenses. There's plenty of sample photos in this thread below.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=107698
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The 35/1.8 is an awesome lens. I may have a Nikkor 35/3.5 somewhere at home, but I have never used it.
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I've got the W-Nikkor 3.5mm f2.5 and it's a great lens. I've seen different articles that say the f2.5 is optically superior to the f3.5, although I've never had an f3.5. And the best of the old Nikkor rangefinder 3.5mm lenses is the f1.8. Just have never been able to afford one.

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http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=159606

Some sample photos from @farlymac with the 35/3.5
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Old 02-13-2017   #6
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Thank you everyone. The 1.8 is out of the question for now. I checked Rotolini's book re: the 3.5 and all it says is it's a "proven design." I'll check the links. Again, thanks.


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Some sample photos from @farlymac with the 35/3.5
Beat me to it! My opinion though is it's a good lens. I've never shot it in a comparison with the 2.5, but now I'm thinking about it. The 3.5 is a four element Tessar type, while the 2.5 has six elements in a symmetrical design. I got good results from both the LTM and S version I have of the 3.5, and just on a quick thought can say the 2.5 gives a slightly different look, but not something I really concern myself with. I'm more after the proper composition and exposure.

My LTM version of the 3.5 does not have a filter mount, and I shoot it without a hood as it is fairly deep set in the barrel. The 2.5 is great for when it is cold, because I can adjust the aperture by clasping the screw-on hood while still wearing gloves, which is the same for the 3.5 in S mount. But the 1.8 (and some late version 2.5's) have a regular aperture control ring on the barrel.

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Old 02-13-2017   #8
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I had the f3.5 when I first got my S3 but soon swapped it for a f1.8 nice and compact aperture was a bit tricky to adjust.
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Old 02-13-2017   #9
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I have all three. The f/2.5 may be better than the f/3.5 in the far corners and at wider stops, but the f/3.5 has a more "classic" rendering and interesting out of focus area, so pick your poison. The f/1.8 is sharpest at moderate apertures but also has wonky bokeh at wider stops.
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All shot with the W-Nikkor 35mmF3.5

Blemished by Philip McAllister, on Flickr

Narrow Moss Lane by Philip McAllister, on Flickr

Untitled by Philip McAllister, on Flickr

Picnic Area by Philip McAllister, on Flickr

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All shot with the W-Nikkor 35mmF3.5

Blemished by Philip McAllister, on Flickr
Narrow Moss Lane by Philip McAllister, on Flickr
Untitled by Philip McAllister, on Flickr
Picnic Area by Philip McAllister, on Flickr
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Castle Street by Philip McAllister, on Flickr
That's really nice results for a Tessar-type wide angle.
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That's really nice results for a Tessar-type wide angle.
Thanks. I love this 35mmF3.5! It's a beaut of a lens.
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Old 02-13-2017   #13
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All shot with the W-Nikkor 35mmF3.5

Blemished by Philip McAllister, on Flickr
Narrow Moss Lane by Philip McAllister, on Flickr
Untitled by Philip McAllister, on Flickr
Picnic Area by Philip McAllister, on Flickr
Sefton Park Lake by Philip McAllister, on Flickr
Castle Street by Philip McAllister, on Flickr
Wow. Looks like a good buy. Thanks for these.


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Old 02-17-2017   #15
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Will test the 3.5 over the weekend with some HP5s. Will be posting sample photos when it's done.


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Nice looking set up.
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Old 02-17-2017   #17
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Yup, clean looking lens you got there!
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Let's see if my eye can live up to the setup. Most likely not, but I'm sure it will be fun.


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Old 02-17-2017   #19
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I may be wrong, but I think that the Nikkor 35 f2.5 is the same as the Nikonos and series E 35mm, so you could buy it with an EM or an FG for cheap cheap... of course its not a rangefinder.......
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The LTM/S-mount W-Nikkor 3.5cm F2.5 and Nikonos W-Nikkor 35mm F2.5 are the same 6 elements in 4 groups optical formula, but the E-Series Nikon 35mm F2.5 is a completely different lens (5 elements in 5 groups). It has to be to clear the mirror/meet the backfocus requirements of an F-mount body.
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Old 02-17-2017   #21
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Some really good photos here, although something tells me any camera or lens would shine in the hands of underlord.

I have a very early 35/3.5 Nippon Kogaku Tokyo in Leica thread, MIOJ, I don't think it performs to the level of the later Nikon RF lenses.
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Some shots I did with the 3.5/3.5 in S mount for your comparison, nomadia.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=156796

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Opinion on W-Nikkor 3.5cm F3.5

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Some shots I did with the 3.5/3.5 in S mount for your comparison, nomadia.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=156796

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Old 02-19-2017   #24
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If you want to see what that lens can do, get some better film, and even better yet, some slower film so that the grain does not mask the lens performance.
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Fast film is fine but the scanning looks like it was done with an office scanner and a white piece of paper or something.

Here's the (LTM, on a Leica III) 3.5cm f/3.5 with Tri-X, dev'd in SPUR HRX:



I do really like this lens but it is definitely less than optimal in the corners resolution-wise, compared to newer/better lenses, if that matters.
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Opinion on W-Nikkor 3.5cm F3.5

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If you want to see what that lens can do, get some better film, and even better yet, some slower film so that the grain does not mask the lens performance.

Thanks for the suggestion and criticism!

Here's some from FP4 and at the same location.



















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Much better. One of my favorite films since Kodak killed off Plus-X.

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Old 03-16-2017   #28
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I am liking mine. It is a sharp little lens
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I just overhauled this little thing and I will publish it in my richardhaw.com blog in the coming weeks (tomorrow is an F-mount lens).

I love this lens a lot. I bought it for the historical value and since I shoot at f/8 most of the time, the f/3.5 doesn't matter at all to me.
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Opinion on W-Nikkor 3.5cm F3.5

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I just overhauled this little thing and I will publish it in my richardhaw.com blog in the coming weeks (tomorrow is an F-mount lens).



I love this lens a lot. I bought it for the historical value and since I shoot at f/8 most of the time, the f/3.5 doesn't matter at all to me.

Thanks! That will be very useful. Is a 35mm Nikkor F1.4 AI or AIS also in your future blog plans?
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Thanks! That will be very useful. Is a 35mm Nikkor F1.4 AI or AIS also in your future blog plans?
I have a 35/1.4 Ai-S but it's not a junk - so, no

what happened to your 35/1.4? haven't opened one yet but I assume that it's not so difficult since there are no gimmicks involved. I must say, S-mount and Leica lenses are even more of a pain because of the special tools needed
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I have a 35/1.4 Ai-S but it's not a junk - so, no



what happened to your 35/1.4? haven't opened one yet but I assume that it's not so difficult since there are no gimmicks involved. I must say, S-mount and Leica lenses are even more of a pain because of the special tools needed

Just general cleaning. Focus seems a bit stiff.

Anyway, here's another from the W-Nikkor 3.5cm F3.5, Kodak Tri-X, Rodinal 1:50

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Nikkor 3.5 35mm

I'm a fan; it has an old Zeiss look about it, a good compliment to an Elmar, but not quite the same look. Better for black and white, but here are a couple of color shots too:







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The LTM/S-mount W-Nikkor 3.5cm F2.5 and Nikonos W-Nikkor 35mm F2.5 are the same 6 elements in 4 groups optical formula, but the E-Series Nikon 35mm F2.5 is a completely different lens (5 elements in 5 groups). It has to be to clear the mirror/meet the backfocus requirements of an F-mount body.
Just on the Nikonos lens: I've used it above the water; it is a superb lens.

I cannot comment on underwater use, as I haven't used it under these conditions.
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Just general cleaning. Focus seems a bit stiff.

Anyway, here's another from the W-Nikkor 3.5cm F3.5, Kodak Tri-X, Rodinal 1:50

I see. I may make an overhaul article for that on my richardhaw.com blog in the future. been getting a few requests to do so.

I made a lens cap for my 3.5/.35 from a rear lens cap (contax?) that I cut down and lined with velvet. saved me a couple of $$$.

this is now my main lens.
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I just dropped mine from a little more than 1m last night because I was super tired. the solid brass on the end of the lens hit a paint tin.

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Got another one

sold to me for 1/3 the running price because it had fungus.

this is the next version after the one I got, looks almost identical but now comes with aperture clicks and some lettering changes. it should have similar construction but there are several differences in the lens and it's a bit different internally.

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check how the fungus spores were treated. I like the fizzle effect
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Here's a sample from the 3.5cm f3.5, MIOJ version mounted on S2, Pan F 50 film.

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One more with the same lens on the S2. Ilford FP4+ film.

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