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Small Meter Suggestiions for 2017
Old 01-24-2017   #1
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Small Meter Suggestiions for 2017

I've got a Sekonic 758 big, honking big-as-your-camera light meter that gives good service, but it's time to look for something a little more pocket-like where 1) battery drain ain't a problem, 2) pocket size, 3) reliable incident light meter, and 4) accurate...and 5) even might help with Zone system.

Camera has a reflected light meter and it works pretty decently. Looking for a complement - so don't need all the bells and whistles the big guy offers (758). Thanks!
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Old 01-24-2017   #2
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Sekonick 208 with MANDATORY enhanchement shown on this Photo.net thread



The LV values enhancement make this little unit super fast to use.

Bonus points: attach it to a retractable laniard to clip on camera strap or belt loop.
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Old 01-24-2017   #3
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Same as above or light meter app on iPhone (very convenient for zone metering).
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Old 01-24-2017   #4
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the 208 is a fantastic little meter.
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Old 01-24-2017   #5
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The Sekonic L208 is a lovely little reflected light meter, but isn't all that great when used in incident mode. The incident integrating dome is rather small and doesn't give the most accurate results. I have one, I use it in reflected mode exclusively. $125...

Other possibles:
The Gossen Digisix 2 has a much larger incident integrating dome and produces significantly better readings. $173 at B&H.

The Sekonic L398A is a superb, old-style meter with a superb incident integrating dome on a big swivel, no batteries, etc. I have the older, L398 model. It's a little limited on bottom end sensitivity but is a cracker for accurate results. $210 new... I bought mine used for $50 or so from Ebay, IIRC.

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Another Sekonic worth looking at is the L-308S. Very versatile and pocketable. Also reads flash.
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Old 01-24-2017   #7
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I use the same combo: L758 and L208. Rarely use reflective metering and no complaints, even when using slides.
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Many review I read indicated that the digisix is a battery hog. However, I have no first hand knowledge (because said reviews scared me away). It would be good to hear if RFF members had positive experiences with battery life, which is of primary importance to the OP.
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Old 01-24-2017   #9
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Gossen Digisix or Digiflash. No need for a hack, you press a button and see the measured EV value in the LCD display. Turn the white wheel so the matching EV value appears in the small window above, and you see all the f-stop/time combinations. Super easy, super accurate, a thing of beauty!


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Many review I read indicated that the digisix is a battery hog.
The battery lasts between 1/2 year to a year (its always on, there is no OFF button). Not an issue at all.
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Old 01-24-2017   #11
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Gossen has been building light meters for 100 years now, and I think they are the best in the business in terms of accuracy, build quality and user interface. They are the Leicas of the light meters!

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Why do you need too clutter up the meter area when the EV is clearly visible on the dial?
To see the EV in the window, you'll have to move the dial. The hack will skip that process. Push the button, and the needle will point at the EV right there and then.

I don't always use a light meter, but when I do, I use 208. (tho I don't have that mod)
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The dial is set by manually matching the green needle with the red one (the measurement).
I guess a power user might only need the EV value and hence benefit from not having to rotate the dial.

I also have a 208 but without the mod.
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Old 01-24-2017   #14
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Thanks! You guys are amazing. Going to give the Gossen a shot. Sekonic's been a mainstay in my life for 44 years, but the bigger dome... and it's all about the dome for me, makes it worth a shot. Simple. Small. We'll see. WHEN I use a light meter... like Anders, I don't always... I like to have it handy on a belt, 'round my neck or somewhere easy. If it measures up, it'll be a keeper. Crossing my fingers it's not cheesy.
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It's worth noting that the Sekonic L-308 also can do EV readings. It can't show you aperture/shutter speed readings at the same time, but for those who have the table memorized, it's just as good as the Gossen. It can also do third stops, in case you want more precise readings for half/third stops on apertures.

I think either the Gossen Digisix or Sekonic L-308 are definitely the best in their form factor. Older folk who are more familiar with EV will likely prefer the former, while younger individuals will tend towards the latter for its familiar handling. I don't think you can go wrong with either, it's merely preference.
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Slowhanded: Thanks! Given I've got 2 Sekonics (my original "Studio Deluxe" from the 1970's and 1-year-old 758), my decision to go for the Gossen Digiflash was based on size... and trying a Gossen as a brand I've known almost as far back as the 1st Sekonic. Sekonics are trusty friends, Gossens like folks "across the bar", and Weston's "the dear departed". To paraphrase MacArthur, "Old Light Meters never die, and they don't (even) fade out."
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BTW, here's a review from Ken Rockwell of the Gossen Digisix... the cousin of the Digiflash. The thing is TINY and that's great!http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/goss...isix/index.htm
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Gee, just get a nice little Gossen Pilot -- selenium, yes, but very accurate, I've found, and it has a built-in "roller blind" for incident work. Very inexpensive and pocketable.
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I've had good luck with Gossen over the years. The one I have looks like what is currently called Gossen Sixtomat. While not small nor large, its form factor is about like a cell phone. Speaking of which, app Pocket Lightmeter has worked well for me, and even measures white balance/color temp.

I was with a friend who wanted to buy a new meter, and at a reputable camera store, the salesman wouldn't sell him one, insisting that the app did as good a job.
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Old 01-26-2017   #20
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To see the EV in the window, you'll have to move the dial. The hack will skip that process. Push the button, and the needle will point at the EV right there and then.

I don't always use a light meter, but when I do, I use 208. (tho I don't have that mod)
What he said.

When I go out with my meterless cameras, I take two readings: in the light and in the shade. Without turning the dial at all can see if the difference is 2 -3 (most commonly) - 4 stops apart. If the light changes or I'm in an in-between situation, I can take a reading and the needle will tell me how many stops up or down to adjust. No need to touch the green arrow.
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CLosing the loop here, initially I bought the Gossen Digisix and it's fine, teeny tiny. Will do the job. But then I found a deal on a Gossen Luna Pro F used and that's just the size of my iPhone with a few more options for offsets and averaging that come in handy. Also allows Aperture Priority or Shutter Priority. Nice meter and decent documentation. Highly recommended!!!
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The Sekonic L398A is a superb, old-style meter with a superb incident integrating dome on a big swivel, no batteries, etc...
I totally agree! A classic, simple meter that's accurate, small, easy to use and nearly bomb-proof. It's no accident that it was a standard for photography students for decades. Plenty of pros used them, too until digital meters became the benchmark.
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Old 02-15-2017   #23
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The Gossen Luna Pro is my absolute favorite light meter.
Unfortunately Gossen has discontinued this meter and replaced it with a newer version with extruding swivel head incident cell making the same great meter bigger than it should be.

Look for second hand deals on the older version - those are fantastic!
I love especially the contrast measurement in shutter speed priority - you can take a quick incident reading in aperture priority, then flip the incident half dome away from the cell and take a full scene contrast reading, measuring from deepest shadow to brightest highlight and place your perfect zones!

I love that meter! Only improvement I could think of would be if it made coffee and could cook.
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Menos: You know I bought a Luna Pro a week or so later, and you're right, it's great meter. Gossen makes some very, very fine equipment. I wish they'd put the software that's in the top end in the lower end models so you could read Zone system right from the meter, give you a retrofit, or work-a-round for the other meters. Wanna sell meters? This is what you do. Luna Pro is the size of an iPhone and fits where you need it. Digisix is fine when you don't want to know you even HAVE a meter.
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Old 03-03-2017   #25
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Hey, congrats on the meter ;-)

Actually the little Luna Pro does have a functionality that comes pretty close to you being able to read and place your zones most precisely:

- set the meter to shutter priority mode
- flip the incident diffusor dome over (or on the current model remove the dome from it's bayonet mount) so you can use the reflective metering mode
- point the meter towards the scene you want to meter
- press and meter button and KEEP it depressed while moving the meter across the scene you want to capture
- once you let go of the meter button the meter will display you in shutter priority mode the initial measurement when you started the metering

… AND - it will show you the entire aperture scale the scene covers, displaying you the whole contrast of the scene, hence letting you PERFECTLY place your zones ;-)

I use this contrast metering mode all the time when in difficult light (and it is just so fast to use). I love this little meter.
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The L-208 is my small meter, have larger but rarely carry it. Been using my 208 for at least 4 maybe 5 years still works, still no battery change.

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Been using my 208 for at least 4 maybe 5 years still works, still no battery change.

David
Thanks for the info. I was wondering about mine. It was at +40 and -20C with me for few years now and still on same battery.
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