A6300 announced
Old 02-03-2016   #1
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A6300 announced

http://www.dpreview.com/news/3240829...rorless-camera

- Over 400 phase detect cells
- 8fps max in love view
- 11fps max burst
- 24mp sensor
- new 4d af algo

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Blah, glad it's nothing major and I don't care.
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Actually I'm not interested in buying as well.. I'm interested to c what the new tech they bring to market since it will be what is gonna be on the Fuji X series or Ricoh GR.. As far as Fuji is concerned, though they are in partnership w/ Panasonic on the organic sensor, who knows when it will put in a Fuji X series camera.. We know that they have been using the Sony sensor w/ their own filter array design. So I c this as what maybe my next Fuji sensor.

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Well, you guys may not be interested (why post in this thread?) but this is a major announcement - it isn't as sexy as the A7 series, but the A6000/A6300 are extremely capable cameras and do what they are designed for: taking great pictures in most situations. One thing to note, the msrp of the A6000 was US$650,- (a bargain imho), the A6300 is US$1000,-. it is probably worth it, but it is a big price hike.
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I posted here for the guys that are a6000 users and want an upgrade path.. As I said for me it is about the tech that will come to the next Fuji X series.

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but it is a big price hike.
Same as the a7 series

Sony a7 ... $1700
Sony a7R ... $2300
Sony a7S ... $2500
Sony a7RII ... $3200
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.....One thing to note, the msrp of the A6000 was US$650,- (a bargain imho), the A6300 is US$1000,-. it is probably worth it, but it is a big price hike.
Should put some pressure on the used A6K market too.

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Same as the a7 series

Sony a7 ... $1700
Sony a7R ... $2300
Sony a7S ... $2500
Sony a7RII ... $3200
It's also in the same price range as the Panasonic gx8..

What will be interesting is how long they continue to sell the a6000 at current price vs the 450ish price during the thanksgiving Xmas holiday timeframe or even lower for that matter.

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As I understand hundreds of AF points are for tracking AF mode, I get it right?
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- 8fps max in love view

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seems that already good autofocus was improved even further. thumbs up for Sony!
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3 new expensive FF lenses, but no new APS-C lenses. That's the problem.
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As I understand hundreds of AF points are for tracking AF mode, I get it right?
Phase detect af works not only for motion but for low light situations is better than contrast af, if I understand correctly. Someone please correct me here. However contrast detect is suppose to be more accurate..

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As I understand hundreds of AF points are for tracking AF mode, I get it right?
Typically, yes. Most importantly, they cover almost all of the frame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=83ZSD-zj73A
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http://bestmirrorlessblogs.com/compa...00-comparison/

A comparison of 6000 vs 6300.. An interesting note, if u look at the difference between the copper vs aluminum sensor diagram, they are inferring wider light incident angle. This new sensor could be better for legacy wide angle lenses.

Can't wait for it to come to the Fuji X line

Also b$h post a first look video...the Sony rep says the don't intend on discontinuing the a6000. Sounds like a6000 and a6300 current have same relationship as old Nex 6 vs Nex 7. To bad there is no tri-nav..

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the A6300 is US$1000,-. it is probably worth it, but it is a big price hike.
Agree. I got an A6000 for 400 USD before Christmas, as I really didn't want to wait longer for the update and the local price still today hovers well above 600 USD. Now seeing the A6300 spec (which corresponds to what I expected, although a higher pixel count seemed quite likely) and price, I'm very happy with the purchase. No doubt this however is the better product, and that 4k video would have been nice.
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Looking this Sony's race for surpass only its own technologies, its bit shame Toshiba sensors were sold to them. More competition and alternatives would have been good for the market.

A7 mark III models are probably in horizon already, since a6300 delivers technologies II series don't have. Great to have new possibilities but bad for the wallet
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"worlds fastest auto focus" .. a $ every time somebody claims that
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I'm interested to c what the new tech they bring to market since it will be what is gonna be on the Fuji X series or Ricoh GR..
Yeah, until it is actually in those cameras, it doesn't matter to me either....and then might not even matter then.
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Fuji has the nice lenses, this Sony has the good sensor. Too bad, they don't match :-)
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$1000 US is almost $1400 Canadian...

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Fuji has the nice lenses, this Sony has the good sensor. Too bad, they don't match :-)
Fuji sensors are that bad?
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"worlds fastest auto focus" .. a $ every time somebody claims that
Yes, and they can all spout how fast their AF is. Unless it can match a DSLR, it useless spouting their AF speeds.
I'm sure mirrorless will one day have it, until then they all sound like the golfing manufacturers..."buy our driver and you will hit the ball 20 yards further".....Bull$h!t.
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Yes, and they can all spout how fast their AF is. Unless it can match a DSLR, it useless spouting their AF speeds.
I'm sure mirrorless will one day have it, until then they all sound like the golfing manufacturers..."buy our driver and you will hit the ball 20 yards further".....Bull$h!t.
Well actually Olympus, Panasonic, and Sony are not bull$hit... they are fast. When Fuji claims it, then it feels like BS.
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Fuji sensors are that bad?
Not at all, many happy users out there. I just don't have enough skills to master the small little green details in nature shots....although I tried every available raw converter and every trick published on the internet.
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"worlds fastest auto focus" .. a $ every time somebody claims that
I bet it is, we only need to know the test scenario.
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Well actually Olympus, Panasonic, and Sony are not bull$hit... they are fast. When Fuji claims it, then it feels like BS.
Fast is a moot point here, the 109 i have is just as fast as my OMD, but no mirrorless tracks like a DSLR, so AF speed is like the lochness monster.
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no mirrorless tracks like a DSLR, ...
Well we shall see when tests start to appear, but with this new camera Sony seems pretty confident it does track like DSLR.
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Fast is a moot point here, the 109 i have is just as fast as my OMD, but no mirrorless tracks like a DSLR, so AF speed is like the lochness monster.
Yep..

Another way to look at this is tech moves forward, af speed is gonna get better, whether dslr or mirrorless. The real question is not whether it is as good as the dslr for tracking or af speed, but is it good enough for your needs. We all have different needs.

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3 new expensive FF lenses, but no new APS-C lenses. That's the problem.
Yep, +1 on this.

I was more interested in the lenses than the camera. At least Sony are bringing out new lenses.

I have everything I need, except one thing... a decent long/super prime telephoto. 300mm would do.
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Another way to look at this is tech moves forward, af speed is gonna get better, whether dslr or mirrorless. The real question is not whether it is as good as the dslr for tracking or af speed, but is it good enough for your needs. We all have different needs. Garu
Exactly...your photographic needs.
A lot of M43rd/Mirrorless users lose sight of that when GAS hits them.
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You have to listen and read carefully when something is being "marketed" to you. They are experts at telling you what you want...not need and, they will always coat it with chocolate.
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"worlds fastest auto focus" .. a $ every time somebody claims that
And of course SLR focus performance hasn't improved since the Minolta 7000 was introduced decades ago..
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I'd rather see an improvement in battery life. I've never owned a product where the charger gets used as often as the one for this Sony does.

Fortunately I really do like their wall charger.
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Fast is a moot point here, the 109 i have is just as fast as my OMD, but no mirrorless tracks like a DSLR, so AF speed is like the lochness monster.
No it's not moot... we don't all photograph the same way. There's a huge difference in single point AF in a lot of these cameras. I don't use continuous, but I do use fast AF. There is no one size fits all in photography or cameras.

And you are comparing two M43 cameras...of course they are similar in speed.
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The A6000 is a fabulous camera and a bargain.

Sony has some track record for making improvements with each new model. I suspect the 6300 will be terrific. AF is great on the A6000, so is the frame rate and the sensor. Best strategy in tech is to up-stage your own products before the competitors do. Sony is playing this game pretty well, IMHO.

Do I go with each new model upgrade? Expensive to stay at the bleeding edge. I usually skip one, take the next, and have a "wow" experience. I guess that means the 6500 for me.
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For those using the A6000, and thinking of an A6300 upgrade, are there a few lenses that you would recommend or are your 'go to' lenses?
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