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Old 12-12-2014   #1
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Question 35mm Canon RF lenses

There seems to be quite a collection of these lenses out there. There's a Canon 35mm f1.5, an f1.8, an f2 and an f2.8. I've read the praise for the very first one (the f1.5), but I'm curious to know whether the others are equally deserving... mostly because I'd like to add one to my inventory.

Not a very fast one, I should add. I'm interested on the f1.8... and even the f2.8. What do you say?

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Of all their 35's, I actually have both that interest you, the 1.8 and 2.8. I can not comment on their design -not my thing, but outwardly they appear to be same basic lens. That said, I seem to always grab the 2.8. I really like both of them though. Well built, nice sized, and rather handsome lenses in black/chrome. I am very pleased with their output:cost.

I just had a quick play with them. They definitely share some common components, but the 2.8 is actually a longer (bigger) lens than the 1.8. Subtle, but there is a difference. Of course, the 1.8 glass is of a greater diameter, but the bodies are the same. I don't know why I keep chasing Summicrons with these on the shelf. I am going to shoot them both this weekend!
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Thanks for the thorough post, Jeff! I am actually torn between them... because I want one of them for my M4.

Your photographs are quite lyrical too. I liked the third one especially.
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I have the Canon 35/1.8, 35/1.5, 35/2.8. I sold the 35/2.
The 35/2.8 is very sharp and small.
The 35/1.5 has a temper. It flares when shooting directly at a light source. Looks good for vintage B&W style images. The 35/1.8 is small and very good. It can flare.

The 35/2 is praised a lot by users. I got a lens that was never used (from the shelf). I traded it for some lens, I think. I got instead a pre-asph Lux, and I already have the 8 element Summicron 35/2.
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Here's a colour image from the 35/2. A great little lens often compared to the 35 cron. I like its handling. Feels like a mini slr lens. Mine is very much a user in appearance- no hood no filter, but the glass is fine.

[IMG]Canon 35f2 colour by transalper, on Flickr[/IMG]
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I've got the 35/2.8 and it's a great little lens! I bought this one because of it's generally favorable reputation, and I've never needed anything faster.

Works fine on my M2 (with adapter), but really nice to use on a screwmount body like a IIIf or Canon IVSB.
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My Canon 35/2 I traded for a 35 Summicron V2. It was a great lens, period. Sharper than my Summicron, handled beautifully with a very short throw. Sorry I sold it. Someday I'll buy another.
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I've got the early Serenar 35/2.8 in chrome. Really nice little lens.
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My 2.8 is usually stuck on the front of my NEX 7 when I'm on my bike.

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Dante Stella might help you with his info from his site?
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He has lots of info on the 35f1.5 and 35f2. And he recommends them both. Thanks for the link anyway. Quite informative stuff!
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I have the 35/1.8 and it's a very sharp lens, sharper than my CV 35/1.4 SC. And the bokeh is lovely on low contrast backgrounds. It matches the Canon 50/1.4 nicely.

Sometimes, the bokeh can get a little harsh on high contrast backgrounds (just like the 50/1.4). My copy doesn't flare or bloom as much as I'd like it to (although most people think that's a positive). Not sure if that's what you're after, but for vintage bloom, the Jupiter-12 35/2.8 is great -- and very well priced.
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In addition to Dante's comments, Sean Reid has two pieces on Luminous landscape dealing with these lenses:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...nsreview.shtml
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I have the 1.8, 2.0, 2.8
Sean rates the 2.0 and 2.8 highly as sunny day lenses. I found the 1.8 very nice in black and white, where it seemed to give a nice 3D, plasticity, sense of space to the image.
Haven't shot the 2.8 and don't have the 1.5.
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All this talk here resulted in a possible purchase of a Canon 35/2 for the third time for me!
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I did the deed .... Lens has been purchased for a good price, I think.
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Ref: antiquecameras.net

Canon 35mm F2.0 $ 475-725 Made in 1962. 7 elements Leica 35/2 Summicron quality


What have you paid for your 35/2?
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Canon 35mm F2.0 $ 475-725 Made in 1962. 7 elements Leica 35/2 Summicron quality


What have you paid for your 35/2?
$350
in 1990. It still gets occasional use.
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What are $350 in 1990 Dollars worth today? $351 or maybe much more? Some ebay sellers ask for $480+. There is today an ubandance of offers for such lenses.
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Some time ago I got interested on the 35/2, and saw that Igor from Cleveland had one listed for $325 (without adapter). By the time I geared up for the purchase it was gone.

This time, I'm after some for my Leica M4, and would like a silver lens. Hence, the f2.8. I'd like the f1.5 instead, but then...
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I want to use the Canon 35/2 on the EP2 for portraits. When used on the M9, it is a moderate wide angle lens. If I add a 17/4 to the mix, I am covered for a trip with two cameras and two lenses only.

I paid today $335 for the lens.
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Jeez. Then when I paid $620 a couple of years ago for a Canon 35/2, that was bad. Sold it for $650, though.
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Maybe there are currently too many lenses on the market before Christmas?
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Maybe the market for this particular lens is down at the moment.

I paid $400 for one on the classifieds here a year or so ago with nice glass but a lot of paint wear, after scoring a v3 summicron that I like using better. I listed the Canon for sale here this year and couldn't get any takers even at a discount...
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BTW, Raid, I think you ought to stay away from threads about gear. Have you used enough your Elmarit 135?
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I use many lenses each week. You are right, though.
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I've had the 35/2.8 chrome and the 35/1.8, and still have the 35/2.0 (later version). All are good, but with different characters. The 35/2.8 chrome gives a more desaturated look to color and is tiny and well built. The 35/1.8 flares easily if you point it at a light source, but also gives glorious color and lovely b&w stopped down a bit. The 35/2.0 (the "Japanese Summicron") is very sharp and more distinctly modern in the way it renders. It's got an aluminum body, so it's light weight, and is much more flare resistant than tbe 1.8. I think it's a terrific all-round 35 lens at a fraction of the price of a Summicron. There are sample photos on my flickr from each of these lenses - just search by tags, or have a look at the Canon RF lens group on flickr.
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Of all their 35's, I actually have both that interest you, the 1.8 and 2.8. I can not comment on their design -not my thing, but outwardly they appear to be same basic lens. That said, I seem to always grab the 2.8. I really like both of them though. Well built, nice sized, and rather handsome lenses in black/chrome. I am very pleased with their output:cost.

I just had a quick play with them. They definitely share some common components, but the 2.8 is actually a longer (bigger) lens than the 1.8. Subtle, but there is a difference. Of course, the 1.8 glass is of a greater diameter, but the bodies are the same. I don't know why I keep chasing Summicrons with these on the shelf. I am going to shoot them both this weekend!
Very nice photos! There were two versions of the Canon 35/2.8 - an all chrome version from the early and mid 50s, and a black and chrome version from 57-60. The earliest chrome versions were also labeled Serenar. Same design throughout, though.

My 35/2.0 is a type 2 from 1971.
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I've got the 35mm f/2.8 and really like it. Nice little lens. I was debating upgrading to the fast 35mm f/2, but am not really sure.
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I've had the 35/2.8 chrome and the 35/1.8, and still have the 35/2.0 (later version). All are good, but with different characters. The 35/2.8 chrome gives a more desaturated look to color and is tiny and well built. The 35/1.8 flares easily if you point it at a light source, but also gives glorious color and lovely b&w stopped down a bit. The 35/2.0 (the "Japanese Summicron") is very sharp and more distinctly modern in the way it renders. It's got an aluminum body, so it's light weight, and is much more flare resistant than tbe 1.8. I think it's a terrific all-round 35 lens at a fraction of the price of a Summicron. There are sample photos on my flickr from each of these lenses - just search by tags, or have a look at the Canon RF lens group on flickr.
I only have the f1.8 and f2, and could not agree more with your assessment.

wide open samples taken with the f1.8/35mm ( all samples however are taken on APS-C, Ricoh GXR M )





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Congrats Raid! I paid about the same for my Canon 35f2. It is now my only 35 RF lens.

Perhaps you could do a 35mm lens comparison with it when you get it.
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I could do such a comparison with the M9, Frank. I now have several 35mm RF lenses.
Summicron version 1, Summilux pre-asph, Summaron 35/3.5
Canon 1.5, 1.8, 2, 2.8
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I could do such a comparison with the M9, Frank. I now have several 35mm RF lenses.
Summicron version 1, Summilux pre-asph, Summaron 35/3.5
Canon 1.5, 1.8, 2, 2.8
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I like the symmetry in your image, Chris.
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I've got the 35mm f/2.8 and really like it. Nice little lens. I was debating upgrading to the fast 35mm f/2, but am not really sure.
I got more photos with 3-D effects with the little 2.8 than with any of the other Canon 35s. It's a great little lens. Gives the Summaron a run for its money, IMO.
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I've really been hunting for a 1.8, but all the prices I see look really high.

At 350-400$ Ide rather buy the VC 1.7 Ultron.

I've only ever owned one Canon 35, that was the unusual 3.2.
Stellar lens for sunny 16, really compact, and gorgeously finished.
The results, hum dum average in my book, but for sub 150$ you can't go wrong.
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I got more photos with 3-D effects with the little 2.8 than with any of the other Canon 35s. It's a great little lens. Gives the Summaron a run for its money, IMO.
Interesting to se your comments about the 3-D of the 2.8 given our exchange a long time ago about the same in B&W for the 1.8, Steve. I'll have to check it out.

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