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List of all 28mm lenses available for CLE?
Old 10-27-2014   #1
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List of all 28mm lenses available for CLE?

Hey all, i was wondering if there's a comprehensive list of all the 28mm options for the CLE somewhere on here? (didn't see one). Anyways, i'll start with the obvious ones:

m-rokkor 28mm f2.8
g-rokkor 28mm f3.5
zeiss zm biogon 28mm f2.8
leica elmarit/summicron/summilux 28mm f1.4/2/2.8 etc
konica m-hexanon 28mm f2.8
MS Optical Perar 28mm f4
Avenon 28mm f3.5
CV 28mm f3.5
CV Ultron 28mm f1.9/2
Canon LTM Serenar 28mm f3.5
Nikon LTM 28mm f3.5

For now, I'm trying to find a $5-600 or below priced 28mm for my CLE (smaller the better, though the MS optical seems a bit too delicate) and just want to see what's out there Any ones i'm missing? Thanks!
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Old 10-28-2014   #2
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I think you can add the Komura 28mm f3.5 to that list.
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Old 10-28-2014   #3
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There's some weird rare ones for you:

Orion-15 28mm f6.0
Leica Hektor 28mm f6.3
Leica Summaron 28mm f5.6

Mostly collector's items, but I figured you might want to know about them.

Also:

Zeiss ZM Biogon 28mm f2.8
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Old 10-28-2014   #4
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The older version l of the 28/2.8 Elmarit cannot be used on the CL as the rear element protrudes too deep into the body, interfering with the meter arm like the 21/3.4 Super Angulon.
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Old 10-28-2014   #5
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at 600$ both the hex and the skopar are great options.
The Hex is better, but much bigger.
The VC is such a great tiny wonder...
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canon 28/2.8 LTM
right, and its 3.5 sibling in black finish which is said to be better.
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Old 10-28-2014   #8
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There are also the somewhat rare

RICOH GR 28 mm F2.8
MS converted G-Biogon 28/2.8
FED f4,5 28mm
Angenieux 28mm f3.5 LTM (first retrofocus lens ?)

Keep in mind that on the CLE, the 28 M-Rokkor or an LTM lens with 35mm adapter will give you nice, isolated 28mm framelines. All other M-mount lenses will also show the 90mm frame.

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Old 10-29-2014   #9
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Thanks for the replies everybody! Originally i was just going to get the m-rokkor 28mm to pair with the 40mm m-rokkor i have, but those weird white spots have me pretty freaked out haha. Is it something that eventually happens to all of them? The ones i found on ebay almost all seem to have them(?)
Right now, i think the main ones i'm contemplating are the zeiss zm (though its actually out of my price range), the hex (though it's a bit larger than i want), the CV color skopar (i have the 25mm right now, and it performs well, but i just don't like the "feel" of it if that makes sense...just the focus tab and the overall look) and the m-rokkor, if i can find a clean one. I would really prefer a 2.8 but if i can't find anything, i'll go for a 3.5...maybe the Avenon or CV...
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Old 10-29-2014   #10
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the skopar is "feeling" quite different than its 35 sibling.
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The older version l of the 28/2.8 Elmarit cannot be used on the CL as the rear element protrudes too deep into the body, interfering with the meter arm like the 21/3.4 Super Angulon.
Question was about the CLE, not the CL. Common mistake. Some deep-set lenses do mask the CLE metering cell, however, and the old Elmarit 2.8 may be one of them.
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Old 11-16-2014   #12
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so i think i'm leaning to the m-rokkor at this point after contemplating all the options...just have to find one without those annoying white spots :P
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Old 11-17-2014   #13
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If you want tiny, I'd go for that 28/3.5 Avenon/Kobalux/PasOptik. It is tint, has a very simple 6-element design, very little distortion, and a ton of contrast. Many versions have 10-blade apertures. Made by the late Abe-san, the gentleman who brought you Komura lenses in the 1960s. The only place this doesn't excel is tiny details at long distances (and this may just be the adapter I'm using being slightly too thick - I'm still checking various LTM adapters).

The M-Hexanon is pretty astounding. But not cheap.

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Old 11-18-2014   #14
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I'm surprised to hear the Kobalux is 6 element. That is what the old Canon and Nikon were but seems like a stretch for 28. Do you know the design? Have diagram?

I've got one on trial/loan right now, along with a 2.8 Canon and haven't used it enough to know much, but definitely noticeable sharpness falloff away from the center. I guess that I just need to take some pictures now and see if I'm happy. I'd much prefer f2.8, but I can afford the Koablux.
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Old 12-17-2014   #15
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There are also the somewhat rare

RICOH GR 28 mm F2.8
MS converted G-Biogon 28/2.8
FED f4,5 28mm
Angenieux 28mm f3.5 LTM (first retrofocus lens ?)

Keep in mind that on the CLE, the 28 M-Rokkor or an LTM lens with 35mm adapter will give you nice, isolated 28mm framelines. All other M-mount lenses will also show the 90mm frame.

Roland.
I shot with the Angenieux for years and it was a retrofocus made originally for Exakta, I believe.
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Old 12-17-2014   #16
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I didn't see the Voigtländer Ultron 28/2 on your list. A good lens, although a little sub par wide open.

I certainly haven't used all the ones listed, but between the Ultron and the Color Skopar 28/3.5, particularly the latter, I'm content. I prefer the CS lens, in fact, and use it on CL, M4-2, M9, GXR, and A7.

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Maybe the W-Nikkor 1:3.5 f=2.8cm might fit the bill? Cost isn't bad and its darn small. Oh yeah it, takes good pictures Sometimes I tend to think most lenses were produced on a Monday morning in the Ukraine. It pays to compare. Good luck.
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So....after waiting forever...i came across a great deal on the Ricoh GR 28mm so excited about this lens (sorry for the boring photo, can post more later when i get something more interesting)
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Couple more....

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Did i meet your expectations or hopes for size? The images show it to be a good performer. What's it look like through the viewfinder?
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Hey Trius, the lens has a nice solid/heavy feel to it not unlike my 35 summicron. The focus tab fits my finger nicely and the dampening on the focus ring is just about right. Aperture clicks in nicely, very legible numbers on the barrel. Oh, and it's a super compact lens!

Smaller than the minolta 28mm i believe, i assume it's pretty close in size to the the voigtlander f3.5 color skopar. It does vignette a bit, but i don't really mind that. All the rolls ive shot with it have looked really nice, good color/contrast and quite sharp. Don't know if its worth the $1200 or so that i see it going for on ebay, but i think it's a great deal at $600, especially compared to many other 28s that go for more.

As far as through the VF, i assume you mean the CLE viewfinder? Since it's a .58 magnification, you get a pretty clear view of the framelines (i wear glasses, so i can't see them on the .72 VF on my m7).
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Hey Trius, the lens has a nice solid/heavy feel to it not unlike my 35 summicron. The focus tab fits my finger nicely and the dampening on the focus ring is just about right. Aperture clicks in nicely, very legible numbers on the barrel. Oh, and it's a super compact lens! Smaller than the minolta 28mm i believe, i assume it's pretty close in size to the the voigtlander f3.5 color skopar. It does vignette a bit, but i don't really mind that. All the rolls ive shot with it have looked really nice, good color/contrast and quite sharp. Don't know if its worth the $1200 or so that i see it going for on ebay, but i think it's a great deal at $600, especially compared to many other 28s that go for more. As far as through the VF, i assume you mean the CLE viewfinder? Since it's a .58 magnification, you get a pretty clear view of the framelines (i wear glasses, so i can't see them on the .72 VF on my m7).
Good information - that's exactly the kind of feedback I was wanting!
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One small detail i forgot to add is that i read all other 28mm lenses (other than the m-rokkor 28mm) will pull up the 90mm framelines when mounted, and fortunately, the ricoh does not
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To anyone using the M-Hexanon 28 on the CLE:

Is there a different hood option for this lens when mounted on a CLE ???

I ask because of possible RF window blocking issues when using the original hood.
I like to use wide lenses at close distances, so RF window blocking at close up is also a concern.
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One small detail i forgot to add is that i read all other 28mm lenses (other than the m-rokkor 28mm) will pull up the 90mm framelines when mounted, and fortunately, the ricoh does not
by using an LTM to M adapter for a 35mm lens, you mean?
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The Ricoh GR 28mm looks very nice. What kind of adapter do you use? Is it working with the lightmeeter?
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