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Old 09-13-2012   #51
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My guess
  • 25 f2 or 28 f2
  • 35 f1.4
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Old 09-13-2012   #52
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It makes sense for Zeiss to address the most popular lens in rangerfinders that they currently don't have - 35/1.4. it also happens to be Leica's most difficult lens to obtain new.
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Old 09-13-2012   #53
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After the demise of the "Sonnar" 85/2 I expect a new 85 mm lens.
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Old 09-14-2012   #54
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As I'm utterly bored by the fast-lens, bokeh tedium, let me be a lone voice wanting a slow, near-perfect 28mm lens. I wouldn't care if it were slower than f4, but I'd expect it to be a top Zeiss performer, probably to be 'C' designated, and to have a properly designed rectangular hood with a lens cap that doesn't pop off.

It won't happen of course.

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Old 09-14-2012   #55
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50mm f1.2, that would be nice.

Off topic, Zeiss could produce a 50mm lens to out perform the v.expensive Leica 50mm f2 ASPH. It would also be less than £1000. Make it a f2.8, (6-7 elements) ha.
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Old 09-15-2012   #56
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As I'm utterly bored by the fast-lens, bokeh tedium, let me be a lone voice wanting a slow, near-perfect 28mm lens. I wouldn't care if it were slower than f4, but I'd expect it to be a top Zeiss performer, probably to be 'C' designated, and to have a properly designed rectangular hood with a lens cap that doesn't pop off.

It won't happen of course.

............... Chris
I absolutely agree! Make it small and and great optically. Thats what I got into rangerfinders for. The 50mm Heliar showed what great optics can be produced in a compact package at a reasonable cost. I dont want yet another fast 50 which seems to be the most common asked for lens. 50mm lovers have all the lenses they can eat and still ask for more! Something a bit different would be nice. Slower to keep it compact and easier to make a better lens. More C lenses a 28 f3.5 would be nice. However that said just looking the ZM range my bet would be on an 85 f2.8.
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Don't Forget Your Cap.
Old 09-18-2012   #57
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Don't Forget Your Cap.

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a lens cap that doesn't pop off.
That would be something, a Zeiss lens cap that will stay on, one made of metal and other non-plastic materials. For that they should rent a hall at Photokina to hold a big press conference to announce it. That would be a big deal for them.

They brag about their lenses with no plastic parts and then give us plastic caps. I never understood how they don't see that terrible final touch. But, this is all I can say bad about Zeiss. So, they're great.
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Old 09-18-2012   #58
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While there are lots of optically superb lenses around, from CV, Leica and Zeiss (lets face it, the 21-25-28-35 f2.8[ biogons are no slouches), there are few affordable fast primes. CV has nothing between the large 35 1.2 II (which I love) and their f2.5 lenses and no longer makes the 50 1.5 asph. Fast lenses are whats missing from the line up, but I think you have a good chance of being satisfied before I am.

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I absolutely agree! Make it small and and great optically. Thats what I got into rangerfinders for. The 50mm Heliar showed what great optics can be produced in a compact package at a reasonable cost. I dont want yet another fast 50 which seems to be the most common asked for lens. 50mm lovers have all the lenses they can eat and still ask for more! Something a bit different would be nice. Slower to keep it compact and easier to make a better lens. More C lenses a 28 f3.5 would be nice. However that said just looking the ZM range my bet would be on an 85 f2.8.
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Old 09-18-2012   #59
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However that said just looking the ZM range my bet would be on an 85 f2.8.

A fast or fast enough ZM85 is what I'd like myself.
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Old 09-20-2012   #60
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I haven't seen any announcement for this, did Zeiss forget to talk about it? I know there's still a few days left in Photokina (even though round up articles have already been written).
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Old 09-20-2012   #61
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They said it was coming in 2013, not that they were announcing it at Photokina... Perhaps they slipped it into the press release so they could get some customer feedback. Hopefully they're listening!
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Old 09-20-2012   #62
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Yes, Bensy, here's the related article >> http://blogs.zeiss.com/photo/en/?p=2745#more-2745 << yet if it's out for sale in 2013 Photokina would be the (implicit) best showcase to announce it to the world... I mean, if not here and now when else? I don't think they would have put such news in the "photokina" article if they didn't mean to reveal it.
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Old 09-21-2012   #63
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If you read the Blogs comment than you will notice that "one highspeed ZM lens will be released in 2013." and "Not yet. Please have patience with us and stay tuned." So I think(hope) it will be annouced this Photokina.
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Old 09-21-2012   #64
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25/2 would be great .. a f/1.4 would be too big (just look at the new CV 21mm)


dual range biogon 18-25 or 21-28 would be fun
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Old 09-21-2012   #65
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Someone on the leica forum had an update after speaking with the zeiss booth at photokina. The announcement will be later in the year or just after new year, but not now (so he was told). His feeling (after speaking with the booth) is that the new lens will be a fast 35 focal length, but no one expressly told him so. Take this for what it's worth -- all second and third hand info.
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Old 09-22-2012   #66
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A Zeiss 35/1.4 with performance not too far off from the 35mm Summilux Asph, nicer bokeh than the CV 35/1.4, and price under, say, 1400 GBP would interest me.
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Old 09-22-2012   #67
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http://blog.mingthein.com/2012/07/19/zf28distagon/

Ming Thein's gushing review of the ZF.2 28 F/2 tells us the winner of the "New ZM 2013 lens" sweepstakes.

It's a 28 F/2.

Here's the clue:

http://interventional.files.wordpres...8-f2-quote.png
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Old 09-22-2012   #68
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Actually, they gave us the teaser and then will design the lens after reading this thread.
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Old 09-22-2012   #69
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Someone on the leica forum had an update after speaking with the zeiss booth at photokina. The announcement will be later in the year or just after new year, but not now (so he was told). His feeling (after speaking with the booth) is that the new lens will be a fast 35 focal length, but no one expressly told him so. Take this for what it's worth -- all second and third hand info.
Perhaps a 35/1.0 Gigantolux. We'd all line up...
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May be it won't be a lens. They may surprise us with a digital FF Ikon
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Old 09-23-2012   #71
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Sunday and still no news... Today or never...
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Actually, they gave us the teaser and then will design the lens after reading this thread.
Yes, exactly. So we won't hear anything more for maybe 6 months.
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just clarifying the absurd and obvious
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just clarifying the absurd and obvious

Zeiss' announcement for Photokina 2012, regarding a new ZM lens, was just an announcement that they intend to make an announcement one day, presumedly before the next Photokina in two years, about a new Zeiss ZM lens that will be in production and for sale some time, probably months after that future announcement?

I think the Zeiss people spent too much with the Leica people at Photokina. But, unlike the Leica gang, I suspect that whenever this mysterious lens from Zeiss arrives, most of us won't be disappointed.
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Old 09-26-2012   #74
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I would like to see a bi-elmar type of lens, but smaller and slightly faster than the original tri-elmar. Such as a 35/50mm lens, with f/2.8 aperture.
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Old 09-26-2012   #75
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May be it won't be a lens. They may surprise us with a digital FF Ikon
No. I asked. But it's going to be fast. My impression (they were very cagey) tends towards a 35/1.4. Or there might be a 28/1.4. It's also going to be expensive, because it's almost certainly going to be Zeiss Zeiss, like the 85/2 and 15/2.8, rather than Cosina Zeiss.

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