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08-23-2012
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People that think an escalator is some sort of a "ride".
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It always makes me sad when people stand blocking the way on escalators or those airport conveyor belts. I mean come on it's pretty neat how fast you go when you actually walk on them!
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08-23-2012
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Originally Posted by digitalintrigue
It's 'lens', not 'len' or 'lense.'
That is all.
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Your real pet peeve is the fact that 90% of Americans are too stupid to spell common words correctly. I agree with you.
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08-23-2012
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I think it's rediculous how some people misspell they're words, like they're loosing there minds or something.
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08-23-2012
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There are too many abuses of the English language to list in full but here are a few of my pet peeves.
Nuke-you-lar instead of nuclear (and other George Bush nonsense)
I seen instead of I saw.
Aluminum instead of aluminium (do we have chromum plated cameras?).
Young people punctuating their dialogue with "like".
The use of "kinda".
"You know what I mean".
I will stop now before I run out of space.
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08-23-2012
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Originally Posted by Michael Markey
Lense is an acceptable variant spelling in both English and American dictionaries .
I understand that it was the more common form before the War.
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Dear Michael,
Not according to my second (and final printed) edition of the OED. From what I can see there it's pure illiteracy.
Or possibly an atavistic desire to go back to the days before dictionaries and standardized spelling.
Cheers,
R.
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08-23-2012
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Malcolm Smith
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Originally Posted by Roger Hicks
Dear Michael,
Not according to my second (and final printed) edition of the OED. From what I can see there it's pure illiteracy.
Or possibly an atavistic desire to go back to the days before dictionaries and standardized spelling.
Cheers,
R.
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Do you mean standardised? 
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08-23-2012
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Originally Posted by greyelm
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Aluminum instead of aluminium (do we have chromum plated cameras?). . . .
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Aluminum antedates aluminium. And Alumium antedates aluminum. Check the OED.
Consider also stannum, plumbum, argentum (tin, lead, silver...)
Cheers,
R.
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08-23-2012
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Originally Posted by greyelm
Do you mean standardised? 
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Clairely, though I was surpriz'd to find that the 's' form is not in the OED.
Cheers,
R.
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08-23-2012
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What on earth is a Barnack?
A man not a camera!
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08-23-2012
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Originally Posted by Dralowid
What on earth is a Barnack?
A man not a camera!
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And a camera is not a chamber or is it?
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08-23-2012
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My pet peeve is "My bad". I always want to say, "Your bad what? Why did you stop talking before putting a noun in that sentence?"
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08-23-2012
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The overuse of adverbs makes me assume that those who do it have a very narrow and small mind.
That and "awesome"... And "loose" when they mean "lose" is another one.
Time to shut up.
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08-23-2012
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"Togs" .... 
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08-23-2012
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Irks me to hear "on accident" instead of by accident. Who screwed that one up?
Also items for sell?
Who thinks like this or is it laziness?
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08-23-2012
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"I could care less", when what is meant is: "I couldn't care less".
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08-23-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bbrovold
Irks me to hear "on accident" instead of by accident. Who screwed that one up?
Also items for sell?
Who thinks like this or is it laziness?
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i'm guessing these folks are esl people.
i admire them for trying another language...more than i am willing to do!
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08-23-2012
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Mine is people who get upset over spelling mistakes on internet forums. It is a internet forum for Pete's sake. Nobody should expect perfection. We are not publishing a book. It is comparable to having conversation with a friend who mispronounces a word. You know your friend knows the proper pronunciation, so you let it slide.
Assuming 90% of people are stupid from simple spelling mistakes and using the wrong homonym in a post that was probably hastily typed is stupid or stoopid. 
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who you calling a homonym?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by back alley
who you calling a homonym?

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My mistake. Hominid. 
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08-23-2012
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My mistake. Hominid. 
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that's better!

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"Enjoy"..........(Enjoy f...ing what????)
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08-23-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by back alley
i'm guessing these folks are esl people.
i admire them for trying another language...more than i am willing to do!
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Not here, I hear native-born US Citizens saying it all the time in Indiana.
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08-23-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TXForester
Mine is people who get upset over spelling mistakes on internet forums. It is a internet forum for Pete's sake. Nobody should expect perfection. We are not publishing a book. It is comparable to having conversation with a friend who mispronounces a word. You know your friend knows the proper pronunciation, so you let it slide.
Assuming 90% of people are stupid from simple spelling mistakes and using the wrong homonym in a post that was probably hastily typed is stupid or stoopid. 
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I disagree, at least when we're considering native English speakers (I'm willing to overlook such mistakes from those who are not native English speakers/writers). In Indiana, where I live, it is against the law to drop out of school until you're 18 (unless you actually graduate earlier). If both of your parents agree, you can leave school at 16. Even our high school dropouts have at least 10 years of formal education. This is true in most other parts of the USA. There is no excuse for any American writing so poorly, even on the internet.
I regularly meet people who cannot write fluently, despite them having university degrees!
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08-23-2012
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Umm...we type on the internet sir...we don't write right?
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08-24-2012
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Of lens, lense and lenses... "inconceivable!"
In my daily bill-paying geek role I recently had the occasion to work with some rather large word-lists. Several lists contained extensive English-language variants. Others contained jargon and slang, etc. The primary authors are based in the US, therefore the core references are American-centric. References were made to 12 key "authoritative" sources such as OED, MW, and so forth as well as a couple of respected electronic sources such as Word Net.
Omitting the proper names of individuals and the dubious jargon and slang lists, a compilation of American with British, Canadian and New Zealand variants (Australia must have cut 'n run for a Foster's when they heard "Barbie"), I was astonished to discover the count. It surpassed 250,000 uniquely spelled words.
Clearly, this extends well beyond the 'ise' and 'ize', 'or' and 'our' variations such as 'color' and 'colour' but not the incomplete and vulgar 'thru' instead of 'through' (one of my peeves).
This did include some that, while recognized, are considered dead and to be dropped at some future date. That was a small percentage, or fraction thereof.
What I found was there is substantial agreement between many sources for frequently used words, but all bets were off as you moved away from there. Even within the American-based sources, a substantive discrepancy is detectable. Then there is the cross-pollination or as I prefer to look at it as 'pollution' of other variants that become recognized.
My point is, while I bristle when I see fellow citizens use 'color' instead of 'colour', it is a recognized variant with national news organizations here, etc. 'Thru' is vulgar in all contexts and perpetrators should be first against the wall whenever the revolution finally comes, or at dawn if at all possible please.
Since this site has international membership, many spellings may appear wrong within your own context which are actually correct in the authors'. It is even likely that within a specific context some variants have been adopted, but are not equally recognized by all Lexicographers (English is, after all, an evolving cauldron of many other languages).
My ultimate tip to those penning their prose for general consumption is to include as many variants as possible. That way, at least, you have the greatest chance of upsetting the widest audience. All the while, when challenged, pleading lack of time, "phat phingers" and errant auto-correct are all to fault. After all it is your write to right as rite.
Regardless of 'irregardless', and other offenses, there is a level of tolerance that is demanded in forums such as this. That said, there is always room for polite correction of consistent errors and misunderstandings.
I'll leave the last word to Inigo, he said it often and he said it best:
"You keep using that word. I do not think
it means what you think it means."
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