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View Poll Results: Bigon VS Cron
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Zeiss 35/2.0 Biogon
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Leica 35/2.0 Summicron ASPH
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08-29-2011
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#301
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eXpect me
santino is offline
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I'm pretty surprised by the results!
I sold my Biogon because of mechanical build quality - no problems so far with leica lenses (but all of my Zeiss lenses in C/Y mount are exceptionally well build - so it must be a "ZM" issue or just a lemon).
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11-03-2011
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#302
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curmudgeonly optimist
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^--- Sounds like a lemon. My (current) ZM's are as good mechanically as my (previous) Leica lenses were.
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11-04-2011
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#303
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clicker is offline
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I prefer the Summicron, but that being said both are excellent.
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11-08-2011
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#304
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Nick De Marco is offline
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I used to have a Summicron vIV which got broke, so I foolishly sold it
Then I had the Biogon 35mm f2, which was without doubt at least as good, if not a better lens, than the pre-asph Summicron. But a bit longer, which I never liked.
I recently traded that in too, for the 35 Biogon f2.8-C, which I believe is a better lens, equals the Summicron ASPH IMO, and is a good small size - but of course one stop slower. Ideal for daytime shooting. As I picked up the Nokton 35mm f1.2 v2, which is the best 35 in my opinion, I'm happy with this combination.
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12-20-2011
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#305
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick De Marco
I recently traded that in too, for the 35 Biogon f2.8-C, which I believe is a better lens, equals the Summicron ASPH IMO, and is a good small size - but of course one stop slower. Ideal for daytime shooting. As I picked up the Nokton 35mm f1.2 v2, which is the best 35 in my opinion, I'm happy with this combination.
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Yes, that is probably the ideal "low cost" solution.
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12-26-2011
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#306
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damonsong is offline
Join Date: Nov 2011
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My vote made the biogon up by one now, oops... I am currently using a Cron asph, it is not bad but since there are about $1000 usd price difference I vote for the biogon.
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01-11-2012
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#307
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Biogon is running away with the crown?
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02-02-2012
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#308
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The Biogon is better, duh! ... then again, it's my only 35. It is pretty awesome though! Honest!
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RF Cameras: Leica M3DS, Leica M6, Minolta Hi-Matic 7
RF Lenses: 5cm Summicron, Zeiss 35mm f/2 Biogon
SLR Cameras: Nikon F2AS, Nikon F2S, Canon EOS 3, Canon EOS 50D
SLR Lenses: Nikkor 24mm f/2.8, Nikkor 50mm f/1.8, 105mm f/2.8 Micro-Nikkor, Canon 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6, Canon 50mm f/1.4, Canon 135mm f/2 L
Medium Format RF: Franka Solida III
TLR: Mamiya C330 Pro, Zeiss Ikoflex Favorit
Large Format: Graflex Pacemaker Crown Graphic
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33155788@N07/
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02-03-2012
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#309
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Dave
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If I could only find a ZM Biogon 35mm f2, I'd go test it against this 35 cron asph. i'm borrowing..
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02-17-2012
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#310
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f6andBthere is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jsrockit
Biogon is running away with the crown?
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Just looking ... 332 to 322 is hardly running away with it considering the price advantage of the Zeiss!
I remember checking this poll a while ago and the difference was much greater ... the Leica fans have been late to the party. 
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02-17-2012
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#311
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Biogon is best bang for bucks.
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02-17-2012
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#312
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Clancycoop is offline
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Here's my vote for the 35mm Summicron ASPH:

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03-14-2012
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#313
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J. Borger is offline
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Never liked the asph cron with digital (R-d1 or M8) but it realy shines with film!
Just a pity i do not like 35mm lenses very much and prefer 50mm 
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03-15-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f6andBthere
Just looking ... 332 to 322 is hardly running away with it considering the price advantage of the Zeiss!
I remember checking this poll a while ago and the difference was much greater ... the Leica fans have been late to the party. 
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Don't get offended... Leica's are still good.  Also, did you notice that some time went by since you posted a response to my quote... weeks went by... perhaps the poll changed? 
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03-18-2012
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I have three Zeiss lenses and cannot fault the quality of build and certainly not the imaging. The best thing that has happened to me in my equipment habits is to branch out from Leica to the other M mount makers. I am sure the 35 and 50 Leica asphericals are every bit as good as the most that is claimed for them, but my 21, 25 and 50 Zeiss lenses are merely different to the Leica equivalents not inferior. I would get the C Biogon 35, favouring very much small size as very important in a street shooting lens. My pre-ASPH Leica 35 is smaller than the ZM equivalent, and on an M6 I can have the whole package buried in one hand. I no longer have the idea of only being able to afford non-Leica lens X.
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04-08-2012
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#316
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I sold my 35mm f2 Biogon for a Konica 35mm f2 Hexanon. I never tested them side by side. I loved the images the Biogon produced but the wobble annoyed me.
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Leica M2 & M6 Classic
Leica 50mm f2.8 Elmar-M Jupiter 8 50mm f2.0 Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 Classic
Konica 28mm f2.8, 35mm f2.0, 50mm f2.0, 90mm f2.8
Amadeo Adapter for Nikon S to Leica M Mount
Nikkor 50mm f1.4 Millenium
Contax G1
Contax 28mm f2.8, 35mm f2, 45mm f2, 90mm f2.8
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04-10-2012
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I got all my Leica lenses during the dark days of '05 or before, when prices were substantially more reasonable (they (Leica) must coat their lenses in gold now), but if I were doing it today I would go all ZM. I do prefer the Leica for B&W, but the ZM is real nice too.
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04-10-2012
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Joe AC is offline
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I just took delivery of a 35mm 2.8 c Biogon. After reading some posts about it, especially some of Semilog's, saying how great it is, I couldn't resist. Can't wait to take it out and try it. I'll let you know how it gos...now if I could only get my hands on one of those focusing tabs.
Joe
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04-14-2012
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MoDeRaToR-To Love & Light
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borrowed a Friend's 35 biogon over coffee...lovely lens

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07-21-2012
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NaChase is offline
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 Biogon, M6 and Acros
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RF Cameras: Leica M3DS, Leica M6, Minolta Hi-Matic 7
RF Lenses: 5cm Summicron, Zeiss 35mm f/2 Biogon
SLR Cameras: Nikon F2AS, Nikon F2S, Canon EOS 3, Canon EOS 50D
SLR Lenses: Nikkor 24mm f/2.8, Nikkor 50mm f/1.8, 105mm f/2.8 Micro-Nikkor, Canon 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6, Canon 50mm f/1.4, Canon 135mm f/2 L
Medium Format RF: Franka Solida III
TLR: Mamiya C330 Pro, Zeiss Ikoflex Favorit
Large Format: Graflex Pacemaker Crown Graphic
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33155788@N07/
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07-21-2012
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NaChase is offline
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Location: Sackets Harbor, NY
Age: 24
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 Biogon, M6, Ektar
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RF Cameras: Leica M3DS, Leica M6, Minolta Hi-Matic 7
RF Lenses: 5cm Summicron, Zeiss 35mm f/2 Biogon
SLR Cameras: Nikon F2AS, Nikon F2S, Canon EOS 3, Canon EOS 50D
SLR Lenses: Nikkor 24mm f/2.8, Nikkor 50mm f/1.8, 105mm f/2.8 Micro-Nikkor, Canon 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6, Canon 50mm f/1.4, Canon 135mm f/2 L
Medium Format RF: Franka Solida III
TLR: Mamiya C330 Pro, Zeiss Ikoflex Favorit
Large Format: Graflex Pacemaker Crown Graphic
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33155788@N07/
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07-29-2012
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08-06-2012
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#324
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Nick is offline
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From the Biogon + XP2 + Green filter on overcast day:
With TMAX400.
Going up!
BW400CN
Baseball game near Osaka-jo-koen
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Last edited by Nick : 08-13-2012 at 05:06.
Reason: Added image
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12-04-2012
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Bill Clark is offline
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I consider buying a lens as an investment, that I will keep for a very long time. When I was serving in the military, I bought a Nikkormat body and several Nikkor lenses at various ports when I was serving in Viet Nam. All still work today, 40 plus years later.
My thought to help and consider, if you buy a lens that you will keep for a long time, how much extra is the expensive lens costing you each day? For me it's a penny or less!
Now that I have a few Leica cameras I will only buy Leica lenses. I consider it an investment, something I will keep for a very long time.
My recommendation, buy what works best for you.
Kind of like my wonderful wife as we married for forever and we celebrated our 35th anniversary this year!
No short term or disposable/recyclable stuff for us!
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