I remember Arista was pretty proud when it got to use the Lloyd design and trumpeted the fact. I have one of the older Lloyds and the newer Arista version and they are indeed identical.. and work just great for me.
I have one but I've never used it out of concern the film could get scratched from gritty felt. The ziploc is a good idea.
I use Watsons, never had a problem so far.
Originally Posted by JSU
I have been using the same pair of Lloyd Loaders for 40+ years. Every few reloads (of 100' rolls) I blow off the felt light trap with compressed air. I keep them in ziplock bags when not actually loading film.
I have an LPL Dayroll (square type) and though they are a little harder to load the 100ft roll into they save you a frame or two every roll by their design superiority over the Watson style. Having the cassette right next to the light trap instead of at the other end of the loader is common sense!
I'm clearly in the minority here, but I've sworn off bulk loading just because of a single crappy loader I had that scratched up all the film I ran though it. I did whatever I could to try and fix it, but to no avail so I ended up giving it away along with all my bulk film. It was a very frustrating experience. If i ever get back into bulk loading, I'll just load it manually in the dark. I'm under the impression an armspan's length is close to 36 exposures anyways.
i use a couple old alden 74's. made just 2 hrs away in the nasty Natti, and a couple decades ago, they work flawlessly. i even found one, still in it's original box with paperwork and all, at a local used photography supplies store and managed to snag it for under $15.
I've used the arms length method in the past but no longer have a room that is suitable for doing so...need to use a changing bag/tent and it is just so much easier to get the film in the can so to speak. Thanks again for all your replies.
Just a word of warning. Some loaders won't accept the roll if it's on a steel reel. They are intended for film wound round a plastic or cardboard hub that is 35mm wide like the film.
I was given one that was like that and indeed the lid clamped the steel reel so tight that it took a great deal of effort to overcome the drag and the film ended up with scratches end to end.
I had to modify the lid and insides to accept the film I had on a steel reel. I don't know how common these bulk loads are but I notice the one in the YouTube used a roll of film without the steel side plates.
Might be a good idea to ask which kind it takes before you purchase as your bulk roll may be different.