Slide Film, A CALL TO ARMS! : SHOOT IT OR IT WILL DIE

[flip]

Originally Posted by Keith

In Australia it's like asking me to eat caviar more regularly. Slide film is horrendously expensive here and processing is much the same!

The last roll of E-6 I had processed at a pro lab cost me over twenty dollars for developing only!

Damn. That's like a pack of smokes in Oz.

[dallard]

Just an FYI:
I sent out some Fuji mailers yesterday and they cost $1.95 each to send.

[HHPhoto]

Originally Posted by flip

Damn. That's like a pack of smokes in Oz.

I remember that some of our Australien friends here mentioned some labs with significantly lower E6 developing costs than the 20 AUD Keith had payed.

Cheers, Jan

[HHPhoto]

Originally Posted by dallard

Just an FYI:
I sent out some Fuji mailers yesterday and they cost $1.95 each to send.

Thanks, that is indeed very cheap.
Developing costs in Germany for E6 are only 1,85€ - 2,55€ at the drugstore chains. That is extremely cheap.
Professional labs are charging in 4€ - 6,50€ range here, which is also very reasonable and attractive priced.
The price difference between C41 and E6 development is very small and negligible.

Seen yesterday in another forum:
Fuji Provia 400X pushed two (!) stops to ISO 1600/33°.
Looks very good:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcy/413...n/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcy/413...n/photostream/

Cheers, Jan

[dallard]

Originally Posted by HHPhoto

Thanks, that is indeed very cheap.
Developing costs in Germany for E6 are only 1,85€ - 2,55€ at the drugstore chains. That is extremely cheap.
Professional labs are charging in 4€ - 6,50€ range here, which is also very reasonable and attractive priced.
The price difference between C41 and E6 development is very small and negligible.

Seen yesterday in another forum:
Fuji Provia 400X pushed two (!) stops to ISO 1600/33°.
Looks very good:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcy/413...n/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcy/413...n/photostream/

Cheers, Jan

$1.95 is just the postage, the mailers cost $8.49 each. $10.44/roll for developing, mounting and shipping from anywhere in the US is pretty convenient. Processing and mounting alone usually runs about $10 here not counting the shipping. All in all, I don't think it's that bad.

[dnp]

Fridge is now packed with Fuji 400X and I have ten rolls out and another ten next week - I'll keep going until they tell me I can't :-) I do love slide film...

[Noll]

Originally Posted by HHPhoto

Thanks, that is indeed very cheap.
Seen yesterday in another forum:
Fuji Provia 400X pushed two (!) stops to ISO 1600/33°.
Looks very good:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcy/413...n/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcy/413...n/photostream/

Cheers, Jan

Thanks for sharing this here, the series shows off the beauty of slide film wonderfully. The colors on some even remind me of, dare I say.... kodachrome!

[dallard]

3 of my 4 fuji mailers came back today. Pretty quick turnaround considering I sent them on the 26th. 120 format rolls came uncut in a plastic sleeve rolled into a thick cardboard tube. 35mm comes in a Fuji branded box with Fuji branded cardboard slide mounts (funny considering it was Kodak Ektachrome I sent in! I also got the usual note saying that there was a frame cut off partway. The half frame and rest of the leader were in the bottom of the box so at least you have a good way of telling what type of film each box is.
I'm pretty darned pleased overall.

[bwcolor]

I usually do my own E6, but I've been busy with work, so took my last roll into Walmart. To my surprise, they no longer use Fuji/Duanes. Also, a bit more expensive than my last roll about a year ago... $7.91.

[David_Manning]

I'm expecting a new 50/1.4 Nikkor for a Nikon FG I inherited. My EliteChrome is waiting for that lens' arrival. Walmart will be my lab of choice.

[Mauro]

a slide film developed and framed costs EUR 2.04 at a large department store few km far from my house

[Jubb Jubb]

Love shooting slide! Kodak E100VS

[dallard]

Originally Posted by Jubb Jubb

Love shooting slide! Kodak E100VS

Beautiful! What format is this?

[awbphotog]

^^ Xpan? I love slide film. I'm in Rochester, NY and there is a local lab (Praus Productions) that still does E6 processing for relatively cheap rates. LONG LIVE SLIDES!

[Sparrow]

^^^ is it just me that thinks the colours there are completely wrong?

[HHPhoto]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

^^^ is it just me that thinks the colours there are completely wrong?

It is just you.....
Well, seriously, it looks like both shots were made at the so called "blue hour": The time around dusk, especially just when the sun itself is already behind the horizon, but higher areas just get the last little sun light, and the lower areas are already deep in the shadows.
The light in the shadows is indeed blue, that is physically correct. Daylight film record the blue light in a correct way.
The problem ist that our brain is mostly / often "cheating" us by correcting the blue cast to a more 'normal' color balance (sorry for this 'rough' explanation, my English is limited).

I've often photographed in the "blue hour", with different films. And always got the blue shadows. There is a reason why this time of the day is called "blue hour" .

Cheers, Jan

[thegman]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

^^^ is it just me that thinks the colours there are completely wrong?

I don't know if the colours are wrong or not, as I was not there, but I will say that I shoot slide film because the colours look good, not necessarily correct.

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by HHPhoto

It is just you.....
Well, seriously, it looks like both shots were made at the so called "blue hour": The time around dusk, especially just when the sun itself is already behind the horizon, but higher areas just get the last little sun light, and the lower areas are already deep in the shadows.
The light in the shadows is indeed blue, that is physically correct. Daylight film record the blue light in a correct way.
The problem ist that our brain is mostly / often "cheating" us by correcting the blue cast to a more 'normal' color balance (sorry for this 'rough' explanation, my English is limited).

I've often photographed in the "blue hour", with different films. And always got the blue shadows. There is a reason why this time of the day is called "blue hour" .

Cheers, Jan

Blue? ... those are seriously purple my friend

Love your "colour theory" Munsell would be delighted, daylight colour temperature is around 5,500k at midday and drops during the day to perhaps 3,500k at dusk ... which causes film to sift to the red end of the spectrum, is why one would use a blue filter in such situations, the appropriately named Morning/Evening filter, mine are KB6's, so it's surprising it's just me that finds their colours wrong

The "blue hour" is after the sun has set, well unless there is moisture in the high atmosphere when it stays pink and red

[Jubb Jubb]

Format was 35mm on an xpan. No filters used. Colours that afternoon were beautiful. It is a vivid saturation film, no editing on my half, and there were more images on the roll that were exaggerated. i love the colours however.

[Jubb Jubb]

Ps. The light and colour would also differ depending what part of the world you are in...

[HHPhoto]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

Blue? ... those are seriously purple my friend

It doesn't make much sense to argue here whether it is blue, blue with a purple cast or whatever.....too much variation in computer monitors and calibrating.
Looking online at web pictures and discussing color accuracy is always a bit problematic.
That's why I have put the smiley in my first post .....

Originally Posted by Sparrow

daylight colour temperature is around 5,500k at midday and drops during the day to perhaps 3,500k at dusk ... which causes film to sift to the red end of the spectrum,

Exactly, and that is why all subjects in the posted pictures which are still in the last little sun light have indeed these warm colors.
It is clearly visible in the shots. Nothing wrong with that.

And in shadows in such lighting conditions around the dusk time you definitely have more blue light. Use a color meter and you can measure that.
I've often photographed in similar conditions as the poster above, with different slide and negative films (Ektar, Portra, Fuji Pro), and always got this blue.

Cheers, Jan

[Sparrow]

... well have it your own way, you're not exactly arguing black is white but you are coming close, I'll continue to believe that colour temperature is lower (more red) in the mornings and evenings and higher (more blue) at midday if that's OK

Oh ... and I've taken a photo or two over the years

[citizen99]

Originally Posted by citizen99

I recently dug out my old Agfacolor transparencies from 40 years ago, and it occurred to me - why do I always use negatives nowadays when I hardly ever need a print? So the first 120 roll of Provia has gone into a camera, just waiting to finish the last 2 frames when the sun comes back (June is not yet 'flaming' in the UK this year, and I would like to have at least some of the shots in sunlight ).

I get my C41 processing done at http://www.club35.co.uk/ and am very satisfied with them, and they also offer E6 so they'll go there.

Here's one from the first roll which illustrates the more careful management of exposure needed for positives; detail is lost in the very prominent white areas .
Provia 100F, Noritsu QSS-3203, enhanced in PhotoShop Elements

La Piazza by johnnyh4, on Flickr

By way of contrast, here is a recent scan of one I took in 1970; a bit under-exposed but the detail is there.
Agfacolor 50, CanoScan 8800F

Prescott Hill Climb 1970 - celebrating the 60th Anniversary of the Morgan Motor Company. by johnnyh4, on Flickr

Next time, I'm going to see how Provia 400X performs; I have got some for a wide-angle camera that needs plenty of stopping-down ...

[bwcolor]

My seven year old daughter has been learning photography and she got her first use of the X100. Her goal is to be able to shoot film. So, I took some E100VS on a hike behind the house. I kept the shirt she wore in front of my monitor with diffuse sunlight entering the room in order to match the shirt color, but I could not get rid of the color cast on the hair. Any suggestions?

[joeswe]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

^^^ is it just me that thinks the colours there are completely wrong?

please define: "wrong"?



definewrong von eames68 auf Flickr