Shooting Eastman (Double-X) 5222 in the Leica

[Travis L.]

Still lusting after a new 21 Elmar.

[millus1974]

Ok thanks to Nokton48 i have decided to try to develop the XX like a Tri-X...so i have exposed the film at 400 Asa and then i have developed in T-Max Dev 1+4 for 6min. at 20°
The results are really nice to my eyes, i love this kind of grain and tonality, maybe the scans could be better but i'm not a Photshop expert so this is the best i can do...


Double-X - Nokton 50-1.1 - Cosmo Studio 17 di Emiliano L. Maiello, su Flickr


Double-X - Nokton 50-1.1 - Cosmo Studio 16 di Emiliano L. Maiello, su Flickr


Double-X - Nokton 50-1.1 - Cosmo Studio 13 di Emiliano L. Maiello, su Flickr


Double-X - Nokton 50-1.1 - Cosmo Studio 07 di Emiliano L. Maiello, su Flickr

[MPerson]

Emiliano - I love it at 400. These are nice especially No: 2. If it wasn't for the modern technology in the frame it could be a still from Cinecittà in its heyday, just waiting for Fellini to arrive......

[millus1974]

Thanks Andy, i promise you i will take some shot in Cinecittà with the Double-X and one of my Cine-Lens...trying to avoid technology and new car, so maybe we can dream for few seconds ^_^

Emiliano

[Nokton48]

Emiliano -

Very glad treating XX like TX worked well for you. I also like your results.

-Dan

[elmoG]

Leica CM XX iso200




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[elmoG]

M7 3514 preAsph xx iso250 HC110 H + Rodinal



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[tagheuer]

Originally Posted by ChrisLivsey

Thanks for that, I posted because I see so few Landscapes with 5222, street is very "in" at the moment.
I think I tagged all the flickr but maybe not it does get tedious even with a batch.
I am between darkrooms at the moment having moved recently ( it needs a build not a conversion) so am outsourcing
ILFORD ILFOTEC DD chemistry in a Refrema Dip and Dunk processor

They really look after the film, clean and flat, the scan is as posted straight upload. Really if I wasn't wet printing I wouldn't bother scanning at home. IMHO developing is easy it is the scan that is the killer step.http://www.ilfordlab.com/page/57/Bla...-from-Film.htm

Interesting developer for double-X.

I may give a try in my next rolls.

Thanks for the info...

[presspass]

I've followed this for a while, and want to get back into bulk loading. But I don't want to deal with 400 feet. That leaves Orwo. How does the 400 speed Orwo stack up against Double X?
Thanks,

[Tom A]

If you go to Flickr - thera two sites with ORWO stuff. "New ORWO black and white film" and "ORWO film". Plenty of samples there - and on this site there is enough XX stuff to compare.
I have shot some of the ORWO 74 and it i very close to the XX -and it is marginally faster (true 400 iso). At the moment I am shooting with the ORWO UN 54 - the 100 iso film. Looking for a replacement for the EK 5231. Very similar quality.
My best results have been with either D96 or Pyrocat HD (ORWO 74) and Beutler 1:1:10 for 7 min with the ORWO UN 54 at 100 iso.

[presspass]

Tom:
Thanks. I'm not able to judge how a film will print in a traditional darkroom by looking at Flicker - I guess it's just lack of training on my part. I like Acros 100 (the old Arista rebranded stuff) with Beutler 1:1:10. I'll try the Orwo UN 54 and probably some 74 in D-23 1:3. Thanks again for the help.

[bob338]

I got an email from one of a film house alerting me that they have short ends of 5222 for .20 per foot. Not a bad price considering how hard short ends are to find these days.

PM me if you want the contact info.

Bob

edit--they have asked me to handle getting orders together, they don't have the time or resources to deal with small orders. so please PM me directly with the amount that you want and i'll try to get it going.

[acroolite]

a friend of mine searching information about this film and find out local kodak distributor sell this at around $170 for 400feet...

[bob338]

Originally Posted by acroolite

a friend of mine searching information about this film and find out local kodak distributor sell this at around $170 for 400feet...

In the US Kodak sells this film for around $140 for 400'. Shipping is usually about $10.

[acroolite]

Originally Posted by bob338

In the US Kodak sells this film for around $140 for 400'. Shipping is usually about $10.

and plus x at discount price around $140...

[Nokton48]

I have just finished running (now drying) eight rolls of Eastman XX, which I processed in an old eight-reel Nikor tank. I used the soup I tried just previously, which seems to work quite well:

1900 ml water at 20C
32 ml HC-110 straight syrup
20 ml straight Rodinal
water at 20C to make 2000ml

Processing time was 11.5 minutes at 20C, with 20 sec initial agitation, then 5 inversions per minute thereafter. Negs look very smooth, great middletone and highlight detail, and with sufficent exposure, plenty of shadow detail. One extra stop seems to look better to me than exposing it per meter readings (eg: 1/250 at f/11 looks better to me than 1/250 at f/16 in full sun). I habitually shoot two frames, most often I prefer the one with the extra exposure. These rolls are all shot with my Canon RF's, and Minolta SRT's. Everything appears really excellent looking very quickly.

Still have 20+ rolls to process, need to get crackin' on that. Helpful that my basement is now at 20C ambient.

[rizraz]

Originally Posted by acroolite

a friend of mine searching information about this film and find out local kodak distributor sell this at around $170 for 400feet...

Well at least your friend got a quote...... the distributor here didn't even bother to reply to my query when I made inquiry about this film......

[Nokton48]

Here I'm about to load ten Canon "V" Film Cassettes with XX.
Thought I'd take a quick snap, to show how easy this process is to do.
Ten strips of masking tape pre-cut, pull out an "arm's length" approx 36-37 exposures of XX right off the 400' core, tape it on, and roll it up. Just requires some patience, clean dry hands, and total darkness.

This is basically the Canon version of the IXMOO Leica cassette, which fits late model VT Canons and models that came after.

[zupstermix]

Recently tried the Double X with HC-110 and I really liked it!


M2-DOUBLEXAT200-Scan-120616-0026 by zupstermix, on Flickr


M2-DOUBLEXAT200-Scan-120616-0008 by zupstermix, on Flickr

[rizraz]

My bulk roller had a great fall, and there was a few chipping. Was worried that there might be light leaks so did a test roll..... I guess everything is fine. So will bringing them for my bangkok trip......


m6, 21mm color skopar, EK5222 @800, DDX @20c for 10 mins

[lam]

I've followed Andy and a few others enough My next big film purchase will be a 400 iso 400ft roll of Double X ...

[Nokton48]

I'm very impressed with the results posted over on the ORWO Flikr forum, using N74 at EI 1600 and developing 17 minutes at 20C in HC110 mixed in dilution "B". Here is the thread:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/1924424...7630361256238/

and here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokerph...7630361089010/

I'm thinking of buying 100' of ORWO N74 just to try this out.

[zupstermix]

Even more XX goods!


M2-DOUBLEXAT200-Scan-120708-0023 by zupstermix, on Flickr


M2-DOUBLEXAT200-Scan-120705-0031 by zupstermix, on Flickr

[Tom A]

I have been shooting with the ORWO 54 (100 iso). Trying to find a replacement for the EK 5231 (+X).
This combination seems to fit the bill. ORWO @ 100 iso, developed in Td 201 (Anchell/Troop - The Film developing cook book). It is a 2 bath soup, 3 min A and 3 min in B continious agitation.
Leica M6 and C Biogon 35mm f2.8

[Tom A]

What I like about the Td 201 is that you can run several types of film at the same time - and still get decent negs.
This is XX @ 320 - in the same tank as the ORWO 54