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View Poll Results: Are you going OM-D?
O yeah, here's my pre-order confirmation! 36 10.43%
You bet! just have to de-GAS a few gears to fund it 23 6.67%
Positively, but only when it hits street price level 65 18.84%
I don't know, I like it, but won't my APS-C buddies shun me? 50 14.49%
Heck no! I won't be caught dead with a dinky m4/3rd camera 110 31.88%
OMD? Are they coming out with a new album? 61 17.68%
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Old 04-13-2012   #401
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Blue and white box?

I would prefer the black and gold of the OM system.
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for those of us excited about this cam, more to be excited about!

http://www.techradar.com/news/photog...c=rss&attr=all

It seems too good to be true ( there must be noise reduction going on ? ) - DR and SNR of the EM-5 EXCEED those of the Xpro1 even at high ISO !!

From the above : ( specifically http://www.techradar.com/reviews/cam...articleContent )



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technology marches on! i hope this is the camera that ends the 'm4/3 sensor is too small' nonesense.
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Robert, linky not worky.
I just see a blank flickr space.
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I am not 100% sure what those colored lines mean in the real world, but I think the E-M5 will produce images that are good enough for me.
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There's something off about TechRadar's tests - they seem to think the 5DII has almost two stops more of dynamic range @200 than the D700. I've used both, and I find that somewhat difficult to believe.

That's not to say the OM-D doesn't look to be a stunning camera.
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This looks like a great set for travel! Can't wait to see more real life results from it. But the blazing fast AF I saw in the Eric Kim video looked very promising. Near-instant auto-focusing.
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It seems that we're struggling to find fault with this new camera so far ... image quality, usability, focusing! Olympus may have got this very, very right.

The Xpro doesn't seem to be having such a free ride which indicates to me that people expect more of that camera than is being delivered. Our initial expectations of the Oly were very conservative by comparison ... everything is a bonus!
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Blue and white box?

I would prefer the black and gold of the OM system.


I'm not sure what to say?
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Too late for unbox

Tiny cam; for size reference, the laptop is a Macbook Air 11"



I have to say I like the look of this far more than the Fuji. I am a self confessed Oly bigot but that is nice!

But I'm not buying ..... yet!
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Blue and white box?

I would prefer the black and gold of the OM system.
Some OM gear was shipped in blue and white.
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I find my F6 fits my hands perfectly so that Oly would be very small!

But I've always liked the tiny Leica screwmounts ... you just hold them differently!
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And, the OM-D next to my smallest camera:

Hm.

I don't think it's a benefit that it is this small. Most of the time, I like me Leica's a lot for their form factor
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The Aria is a very petite SLR...the Olympus makes the F100 look huge...

Robert, you don't happen to have an OM body for comparison, do you?
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I have large-ish hands and I didn't find the OM-D to feel small. Didn't play with any of the buttons, but the built-in 'thumbs-up' grip really helps you hold on to it.

I'd probably get the grip kit for good measure, though, and just use the right-side grip part.
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It has arrived and to say that I feel good about the purchase is an understatement. The EM-5 just feels so right. The EVF is stunning. I played with it for an hour (in front of the Mariners game on TV) and realized later that I forgot to listen for the hummmmmm. I had to go into a dead quiet room to hear it. Not a problem. The grip (came today also!) is the single greatest addition. By the way, Pop-Flash has the grip (for $2 less!) and got it to me in two days, free shipping.

Here are some fairly shoddy shots (I'll get a better comparison tomorrow!) showing the same OM 50mm/f1.8 mounted on the OM-1, EM-5 & E-510. The EM-5 is definitely the smaller of the three, but not that much in comparison to the OM-1. The E-510 feels enormous by comparison. My main travel digital has been my Canon G9, smaller than the EM-5. I'm quite used to the G9 and cannot see any reason to think the EM-5 is to small. Buttons are small, but once learned, will be very easy to manipulate. The dual dials are a great feature:



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So jealous!

Larry, did you actually get a black body only??? Or the kit?

Would love to get my hands on the little guy next week--fingers crossed and Nokton 25 at the ready.
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So jealous!

Larry, did you actually get a black body only??? Or the kit?

Would love to get my hands on the little guy next week--fingers crossed and Nokton 25 at the ready.
Fingers crossed, B&H will be sending emails tonight or tomorrow and maybe, just maybe....
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So it's the left-hand (as you hold the camera) that is shrunk; hmmm. Size may not be so bad, but I would want to re-skin it immediately. That surface is UG-LEEEE!!!!
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Thanks, Larry (and Robert too).
I bet you guys helped a lot of people in their considerations.

As we can see:
1. The right hand side where we usually hold and operate the camera isn't that much shorter
2. Plus it has the contoured grip section
2. And that grip section is actually taller than its counterpart on the old OM
3. The addition of the thumb-rest in the back

All these should make the handling easier and more comfortable. Probably except for those with very long fingers which would clash with the self-timer when using OM anyway.

So I don't buy the line of thought that OM-D is too small.
If you can use an OM comfortably, you will do fine with OM-D.

Even if that were not the case, getting the grips (mentally or literally ) should solve the problem nicely.
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I am certain Aki-Asahi will step up to the plate before too long!
One would hope.

Will, I will give it a try. Right now, however, I am placing an order for a Chamonix 45N-2 and two lens boards, so an OM-D will have to wait!
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So jealous!

Larry, did you actually get a black body only??? Or the kit?

Would love to get my hands on the little guy next week--fingers crossed and Nokton 25 at the ready.
Yes, I got the body with 12-50mm. I decided to show the three Olys with the same lens (50/1.8) mounted (my collection of body caps for the OMs) to give a better size comparison.
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Got one last week, and I was shocked at how small it was. Honestly, I was a little disappointed that it was so small! I did get over it after handling it with the Panny 20/1.7, which is a great tiny stealthy combo.

Here's a shot with the Nokton 35/1.2 which dwarfs the OM-D body:



Posted these in another thread but thought it might be helpful here too...

With the Nokton:


Mavis + Elian by The Johann Espiritu™, on Flickr

With the 20/1.7:


Tailed (Again) by The Johann Espiritu™, on Flickr

and with the Leica DG Summilux 25/1.4 which I just got yesterday:


Blur by The Johann Espiritu™, on Flickr


Outside by The Johann Espiritu™, on Flickr

A lot more test shots on my Flickr if you're curious...
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I think Olympus must be looking after their smaller retailers.
Shutterbug here in Santa Rosa had two OMD kits - they now have only one left :-)

While I'm impatiently waiting for the battery to charge, here are three ways of getting to a normal field of view using Summiluxes.
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Is the battery, or better, a less expensive third party battery, showing up yet in the US?
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Is the battery, or better, a less expensive third party battery, showing up yet in the US?
No sign of spare BLN-1 batteries in store.
Amazon don't even list them for pre-order but B&H do.
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And why do we think only a sensor as big as the old 35mm film frame can produce a "good enough" image? Isn't that retrograde thinking?
People have been saying that about smaller film formats for decades, it's just that every time a better film came out 35mm simply benefited from it. Can't see how sensor technology is any different, is this camera significantly smaller than the compacts with the APS-C size sensors?
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People have been saying that about smaller film formats for decades, it's just that every time a better film came out 35mm simply benefited from it. Can't see how sensor technology is any different, is this camera significantly smaller than the compacts with the APS-C size sensors?
whats so absurd to me about this argument is how quickly 'state of the art professional IQ' changes. what was it, maybe 3-4 years ago when the global pro standard was the 5d? last year my x100 outproduced it at and over iso800! cmon now, when are we going to stop with these 'size' concerns? in every sphere of endeavor, that is exactly what techology overcomes:size! the march of technology means both smaller AND better. most of us, myself included, dont have the slightest clue about IQ's relationship to sensor size beyond the most meaningless platitudes. so lets all get off that train and enjoy the IQ we're going to get from this new olly sensor. instead of pretending to engage in arguments about which we know very little, lets instead concentrate on what we all DO know: what we SEE.
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this discussion how small sensor would be equal to larger ones gets a bit repetitive.
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this discussion how small sensor would be equal to larger ones gets a bit repetitive.
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I'm not sure if anyone has pointed this out, in 19 pages of responses, but OMD did in fact recently release an album and have been gigging etc. quite regularly again. Not that I'm recommending them, understand.
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For those who has been using the system for a couple of days, any comments on the thumb rest?
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For those who has been using the system for a couple of days, any comments on the thumb rest?
Thumbs up from me ;-)

I carry the camera on a wrist strap and the thumb grip helps with the carry.
Without the thumb grip, to hold you hand in place, I think it would be way too easy to accidentally move the focus points which are mapped to the 4 way pad.

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Plunging back into the sensor size brouhaha again, even though some of you are sick of it:

All I know is that I've been shooting an Olympus E 3 with 4/3 sensor for four years, and I've been pretty happy with the results. That's why can't buy into this idea that a sensor has to be "big" to be good. Really, size doesn't ALWAYS matter...

Otherwise, all I'll say is that I envy you who've gotten your EM-5s already. Preordered mine some time back,and I'm still waiting....
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I do have one question: has anybody tried out their E-series lenses on the EM-5? Certain things I read seemed to indicate that there might be issues getting E-series lenses to focus properly or quickly on the EM-5, because they are made for "phase detection" AF as opposing to the "contrast image " (or whatever they call it) AF on the EM-5. Understood could be issues trying to focus with Live View. And quick focus is important to me,as I shoot a lot of live concert stuff.

Would like to know, as I was hoping to use my E-series lenses on this camera, rather than having to buy a set of Micro 4/3 lenses. So if anyone's tried this, I appreciate it if they would give me a thumbs-up or a thumbs-down on E-series lenses and the AF on this camera.
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