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CSC : Digital Compact System Cameras - This new category of digital Compact System Cameras with interchangeable lenses was mislabeled for a time as "Mirrorless Cameras" by those forgetting about "Mirrorless" Rangefinder cameras.  Such confusion is easily understandable, since interchangeable rangefinder cameras were only recently introduced in 1932.  hmm.    CSC or Compact System Camera is probably the best category description to date, although I am fond of the old RFF desigation of  CEVIL  indicating Compact Electronic Viewfidner Interchangeable Lens.   This forum is here at RFF because via adapters these cameras offer an inexpensive way to use rangefinder lenses on digital cameras -- in addition of just about every 35mm SLR lens you can think of.  All  offer the photo enthusiast an incredible array of adopted lenses which was not possible before these new digital formats.   This group continues to grow in popularity and new camera models! 

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Old 06-07-2012   #201
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Yeah I do wonder how does pentax fare with their sales on this model.. Will be interesting if there are many takers on it. The risk they are raking is quite huge, perhaps the Japanese market loves it? They have been known to like unusual designs..
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Note: this is coming from someone not up to date on the cutting edge of digital cameras.. And all I have to compare it to, from an experience standpoint, is a year or two of occasional use of a Panasonic GF-1 and 20mm lens (both of which I'm still impressed with!).

I used the Pentax briefly, that a friend rented. It had a 43mm limited lens on it.

It felt chunky to grip relative to other cameras, but not too funky.
The whole thing felt very solid, but not too heavy.
Autofocus was similar to the GF-1 from what I could tell. Pretty nice.
Manual focus was really easy with the 43mm, even without the peaking effect. Sweet LCD.
Image quality with the body-lens was way better than I'd ever need.

In short, I was impressed with the lens and photos and ease of use. The body does what it needs to do. It didn't make me want to add stuff to my other cameras to make them chunky, but it wasn't a big deal either. Leica M bodies feel chunky to me when they have a half-case. My GF-1 is still chugging along for what I use it for, but if it goes kaput, I could see it as a replacement.

Around the same time I used the friends Fuji xpro-1. I can't or don't rationalize/reason out my camera preference like some, but I can say I much preferred using the Pentax with 43mm lens.
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I saw one somewhere recently and it looked different to what I imagined ... it wasn't ugly.

I'm not saying I'd own one but I certainly wasn't put off by it's looks!
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They are also available in a myriad of colours dont they?
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I'd like to thank my fellow RFFers for disparaging and generally down rapping the Pentax K-01. You were successful in reducing the price to $346 at B&H so even though I don't do much digital, I couldn't resist the price (although it was $316 at Adorama on black Friday). Here are images 1 and 3 out of the camera:



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I finally got around to using my flash unit with my K-01. I have aperture ring Pentax lenses so as I bought the camera to use it with flash, I hoped these would be useful. They were: just set the aperture to the auto thyristor aperture setting and fire away. I used manual and hit the green button before shooting when indoors. I also set for an outdoor/indoor scene by setting ambient to the outdoor, of course leaving the aperture for the auto flash:

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Old 12-22-2012   #207
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Ugly? Apart from the yellow grip version, I don't think so. And certainly at $315 or so it's a bargain for anyone with K mount lenses.

If you want ugly, go for the Cyclops Zeiss Contarex or the original Nikon F Photomic.
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Old 12-22-2012   #208
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Pentax seems to have lost the plot these days, the K01, and that daft little CSC with "toy" lenses.
My MX and ME super were great cameras, but these days !!!!!!!!
Yup lost the plot, only a matter of time before they vanish with a whimper, shame really!!
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Good Lord...even the strap is ugly...
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this camera has been available now for some time, seen only one outside Internet: in a shelf of big camera store. to me, it looked just as bad in real life as the photos on the net.
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I like the pictures on the net, so it is just as nice in real life?

Reading the reviews on the net it seems it is too much style over function. Not nice to hold, the screen isn'tgood enough and not small enough. The positves are image quality and good enough AF. A better grip, a (optional) EVF and better screen would make this a much better camera it seems. But then again, top of the line Nex and M4/3 cameras are just as good and much smaller.
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Do you need an adapter to mount a manual focus K-mount lens? Is there any conversion for the sensor? (50mm lens = 50mm on camera?)
If so, I might get one of these.....

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It is a K-mount camera, so you can use your manual focus lenses with all functions. However, it is APS-C, so your 50mm will have the FoV of a 75mm lens on film.
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guess nobody argues about good IQ of K01. and once shot has been taken, who cares what was used to make it? but IMO big price drops tell tale that it wont sell otherwise, and looking the thing, no wonder. it has couple passionate fans over at pentaxforums though
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anyone using one of these?
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anyone using one of these?
Moi. Love it. IQ is awesome.
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Same top-rated, APS-C sensor as Nikon D7000 and Pentax K5.

It is a bit boxy in order to use the K-mount flange distance.
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Are you sure it is just as big?
Almost as big, the about the same as a compact DSLR. Thick deep body. Not your usual flattened mirrorless CSC types.

Almost got one of these fugly Pentaces, but got a Samsung NX 200 instead. May have been one of my better decisions made.
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I'll bet you know someone who loves a woman who you think isn't very attractive. Would you call her fugly to his face?

It was considered cool last year--even on the Pentax forums--to try to outdo the last guy in insulting the K-01's design. But it's been nearly a year since the camera's release, and more and more photographers have fallen in love with the camera and have found once again that beauty is more than skin deep.

So continue with the trash talk if you want--just keep in mind that the more great K-01 photos are made, the more your passť bad-mouthing sounds like sour grapes.
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I actually have one and it is really a good camera: it fits my hand, it is simple compared to the DSLRs I've owned and the pictures are excellent. Basically there is very little difference between the final out put of digital so get what you want and forget about the hype.

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I think I'd like one if they go on sale again for ~$200 or so for just a body, wouldn't want yellow, or the pancake lens though.

No hurry though, since my one camera one year project is the EPL1 with AR Hexanon SLR lens.
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We may see $200 for a K-01 body eventually. A price drop to $299.95 was announced this morning. That's a tremendous bargain for such a capable camera.
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We may see $200 for a K-01 body eventually. A price drop to $299.95 was announced this morning. That's a tremendous bargain for such a capable camera.
That is an amazing deal for a camera with this IQ. Wow.
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That is an amazing deal for a camera with this IQ. Wow.
I got one (yellow!) a few days ago, if you consider that the DA 40mm f2.8 costs more than 250,- US$ if bought alone this is impossible to skip. The IQ is amazing and I love the face people put when I get that out of the bag: "Did he steal his kid's camera? Fisher Price camera should be only for kids...".

Ah, yep, I also found that pointless and ugly when it appeared, and AF is slowish and it has no EVF but - who cares? - photography is not always about speed and this camera is funny so now it become my unprofessional camera of choice!

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AF is slowish

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Install the two firmware updates, 1.01 and 1.02. The latter was released just a few days ago. The first speeds up AF a lot, and the second helps other more minor problems.
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Install the two firmware updates, 1.01 and 1.02. The latter was released just a few days ago. The first speeds up AF a lot, and the second helps other more minor problems.
Thanks for the advice, it's so new I didn't even look at updates yet... Something to do during weekend.

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If I'm used to AF speed of Sigma DP1, probably, speed of this Pentax would be quite OK or even great
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If I'm used to AF speed of Sigma DP1, probably, speed of this Pentax would be quite OK or even great
Without any firmware update it is ok most of the times in good light but if you come from a Nikod D4, D800 or whatever similar Canon does or even from a K5 it's like going back to driving a Corolla after driving a Porsche. Still I really don't care, "Horses for courses" I guess...

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Well, thinking about K-01...I've istD which I generally like so it's not a matter of bare need for me. I've small stash of K-mount glass, but nothing too fancy. Superfast AF isn't required, but I'm uncertain by LCD at daylight as only mean to compose, in this regard istD is troublefree.

I don't see "yellow + 40mm" combos anymore, pity. Do you agree AF 40mm for extra $60 is nobrainer? I could live with black body as I'm not too picky although yellow would help to use it where cameras are divided into fun cams and pro gear. Basically, I'm attracted by current sensor, good battery life and straight K-mount for the price of P&S.
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Well, thinking about K-01...I've istD which I generally like so it's not a matter of bare need for me. I've small stash of K-mount glass, but nothing too fancy. Superfast AF isn't required, but I'm uncertain by LCD at daylight as only mean to compose, in this regard istD is troublefree.

I don't see "yellow + 40mm" combos anymore, pity. Do you agree AF 40mm for extra $60 is nobrainer? I could live with black body as I'm not too picky although yellow would help to use it where cameras are divided into fun cams and pro gear. Basically, I'm attracted by current sensor, good battery life and straight K-mount for the price of P&S.
The largest book retailer lists the combo (with yellow body, well, rubber covers) starting at 420 US$.

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wonder how prices reflect the K-01 discontinuation notice?

on the other hand rumors about new small full frame Pentax are getting stronger. interesting times

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Pentax essentially states that they think full-frame is the way to go, and that development of a full-frame camera has been advancing. Wakashiro added that even during Photokina he had mixed feelings about the prospect of making such a camera, but now both he and the company are open to it. The way he phrased this implies that full-frame is about to be a permanent Pentax product line. Although what he said is still subject to interpretation, there is much less uncertainty now than there's ever been before.
Wakashiro also said that while small size is important, the full-frame will also be unique in other ways compared to what's already out there.
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The largest book retailer lists the combo (with yellow body, well, rubber covers) starting at 420 US$.

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Thanks, but I'd rather choose black set for 370 or such. Yellow cover isn't worth extra $50 Majot stores still have this....
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A few images to share ... Capable camera at bargain prices these days.









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HJ, those are great, I just hope mine last a while.
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HJ, those are great, I just hope mine last a while.
I hope it does too. A lightbox with a wide angle (predominantly 10mm) for my landscape adventure. ;-)
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This is with the 18-55 kit lens. It's even better with a good prime.


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That's what I wanted to see the picture quality and it really nice, I just got a Pentax
a K20D and I'm picking up a FA and A lenses for it and so far the pictures are really
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I have been eyeing these since first introduced. I've always been a fan of Pentax manual-focus lenses, and even though I donated a bunch away a couple of years ago, I've been interested in getting a new digital Pentax.

So, thanks to _this_ disparaging thread (!) I found the black K-01 with the 40mm lens on Amazon for $429 and bought. I also got a hoodman loupe which if I can attach to the back OK will be a decent viewfinder.

So a few day 3 observations:

it's solid and chunky. fits my sorta large hands well, especially with the 55mm f/1.7 SMC Pentax (no M A, or any other letters following)
I am a big fan of "just a little bit long" lenses, so the 40 and 55 combo is really good for me.
Haven't decided yet if I like the focus peaking for assist.
IQ seems quite good, but I haven't done serious examination yet.
Much faster than the 9 year old sony compact I've been using.
Build quality appears great.
Ugly? Maybe. Mine's not yellow.

Am I offended by the size? probably not. Or only slightly. It might have been really cool if Pentax had created a "micro K" mount like the 4/3 people did. But I bought the thing *primarily to use manual-focus K-mount lenses* so I'm not bothered.

The market success of this beast would indicate that my primary use for this camera is not all that popular.

If any actual users of this thing have read this far and have some tips for useful configuration of the custom modes, or style of using in general that has worked for you with MF lenses, I would love to hear the details!!

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I have been eyeing these since first introduced. I've always been a fan of Pentax manual-focus lenses, and even though I donated a bunch away a couple of years ago, I've been interested in getting a new digital Pentax.

So, thanks to _this_ disparaging thread (!) I found the black K-01 with the 40mm lens on Amazon for $429 and bought. I also got a hoodman loupe which if I can attach to the back OK will be a decent viewfinder.

So a few day 3 observations:

it's solid and chunky. fits my sorta large hands well, especially with the 55mm f/1.7 SMC Pentax (no M A, or any other letters following)
I am a big fan of "just a little bit long" lenses, so the 40 and 55 combo is really good for me.
Haven't decided yet if I like the focus peaking for assist.
IQ seems quite good, but I haven't done serious examination yet.
Much faster than the 9 year old sony compact I've been using.
Build quality appears great.
Ugly? Maybe. Mine's not yellow.

Am I offended by the size? probably not. Or only slightly. It might have been really cool if Pentax had created a "micro K" mount like the 4/3 people did. But I bought the thing *primarily to use manual-focus K-mount lenses* so I'm not bothered.

The market success of this beast would indicate that my primary use for this camera is not all that popular.

If any actual users of this thing have read this far and have some tips for useful configuration of the custom modes, or style of using in general that has worked for you with MF lenses, I would love to hear the details!!

--mike
You might consider an FA or F lens to this gives auto-focus but retains the beauty of manual aperture control. I love this especially for flash, a depth of field without fussing with the knob.

I usually use my in manual mode and hit the green button before shooting. I personally don't like some guy in Japan deciding what ISO, f-stop, shutter speed I use. I don't use the SR because I do a lot of tripod shots and I forget to turn it off. It does not have a cable release as all new cameras do I bought a $2.99 (including shipping) remote release. It is good for at least 25 feet.

I had a Leitz accessory viewfinder which I use outside, Mine is permanently (almost) with a 28mm FA Pentax lens.





Above, I love this with flash. It is so easy to use, much easier than my DSLR.
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