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Old 11-01-2012   #121
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I love it. Looks great in person. That said, I like all Leica m models...even the hello kitty m6.
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Old 11-03-2012   #122
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Don't worry - there will eventually be an ostrich-clad Hermes edition.
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Old 11-03-2012   #123
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I don't think it is ugly. Also, if Leica made it as beautiful (in my opinion) as the Silver M9-P or M it would be like making a 3 series BMW that is better looking than a 7 series BMW. Bad example, but they did need to find a balance.
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Old 11-03-2012   #124
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well,

I've always liked things that are a little different
or better yet, discounted,
so I bought one of PopFlash's "I don't like the color" M-E bodies
Arrived today, same as new with two year warranty, 80 actuations!

special limited edition "Das Boot" model
Now I can use my Zeiss Sonnar 50mm lenses at native focal length!
The M8, one M5, and bunch of other nice stuff on the auction block to pay for it..

Dark grey is the new black!
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Old 11-06-2012   #125
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Trying to get some new friends, and seeing the poll results so far, I have no opinion (yet).
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Old 11-13-2012   #126
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looks like just another digital M. little chubby vs. film M's, but thats it.
Exactly. Saw it a few days ago first time live in a display window. It was alongside a M9-P and a M6. The new ME-220 didn't stand out.
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Old 11-13-2012   #127
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Is it ugly? No.

Eye of the beholder...I don't like it as much as a black paint MP or M9. Would I want to buy this color? A color that does not grab me like a BP M-anything that would take untold sacrifices to buy?

Probably not. But I can't afford it so it is moot.

Sacrifices with compromises do not interest me. I will, however, sacrifice a lot to get do/get what I like because life is too short not to fully enjoy whatever it is.

Some things, no matter how good or desirable, are just not going to happen anyway, so I am content.
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All of the digital M's are ugly. The M3 and its lineal descendants have perfect, "just right" proportions. The digital M's have proportions that are "just wrong." It's like cropping a Picasso on one edge -- a small dimensional change that makes a huge aesthetic difference.
There is some truth to that...similar to the current "sporty" cars like the Mustangs and Camaros. Originals will always be more of a pure aesthethic than the current "fat-ass" designs, but at least they pay homage to the origin of the species...
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Old 11-13-2012   #129
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I'm really gonna make people hate me now but... to me the M3 is ugly. not everything of course, but the frames around the rf/vf window just make it look like an abomination. I like the flatter lines of the younger cameras. the prettiest of them all (to me) is a Leica MP chrome vulcanite m3 rewind/advance with classic engraving.

about the M-E:

I like the color, at least in the daylight when it doesnt look greenish. but since I dont like black colored Ms and the M9 is just steelgrey and the M9P too expensive the M-E with warranty seems like a great thing... hope I can save up to acquire one
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Old 11-18-2012   #131
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Now I can use my Zeiss Sonnar 50mm lenses at native focal length!
well, the lens focal length does not change only the crop factor
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Old 11-21-2012   #132
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WOW i just got a revelation if the red dot was replaced with a black dot people woulda been in love with this camera...
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Old 11-21-2012   #133
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Also, I've seen some really beautiful butts in my time.

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Old 11-22-2012   #134
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Also, I've seen some really beautiful butts in my time.

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Old 11-23-2012   #135
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I don't care how ugly or what colour spots it's got --- I still can't afford one ---
but I wish I could.
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Old 11-24-2012   #136
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I have an M-E and the colors are fine. There's no green tint to it at all.
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Old 11-25-2012   #137
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It looks nice there, I take back my earlier comments! Congrats on the purchase and happy shooting
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Old 11-25-2012   #138
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Tekset, sorry if you felt singled out I didn't mean to single out anyone. Ya know, I heard about the green tint too elsewhere. But unless green light is reflecting off the paint, there's not green tint.
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Old 11-25-2012   #139
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Not at all! I just wanted to comment on what is a nice looking camera after all
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Old 11-26-2012   #140
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I have an M-E and the colors are fine. There's no green tint to it at all.
Agree, mine is also not green.

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Old 11-26-2012   #141
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Looks great to me.
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Old 11-26-2012   #142
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Looks great to me.
it would look even better if the red dot was replaced with a black dot..just my 2 cents..
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Old 11-26-2012   #143
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it would look even better if the red dot was replaced with a black dot..just my 2 cents..
Dear Dennis,

This is a fun one. Under the terms of using the Leica name (shared with microscopes and surveying instruments) they can put black dots ONLY on black cameras. Then, it isn't a dot: it's Leica written on an all-black camera. Strange but true. But they don't go out of their way to prosecute dot-swappers.

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Dear Dennis,

This is a fun one. Under the terms of using the Leica name (shared with microscopes and surveying instruments) they can put black dots ONLY on black cameras. Then, it isn't a dot: it's Leica written on an all-black camera. Strange but true. But they don't go out of their way to prosecute dot-swappers.

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Oh wow I did not know this. Thanks for telling me about this. It's certainly interesting for them to stick with their principles on this one.
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Old 11-26-2012   #145
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No it is not.


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Old 11-27-2012   #146
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Dear Dennis,

This is a fun one. Under the terms of using the Leica name (shared with microscopes and surveying instruments) they can put black dots ONLY on black cameras. Then, it isn't a dot: it's Leica written on an all-black camera. Strange but true. But they don't go out of their way to prosecute dot-swappers.

Cheers,

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when I was in solms on november 6th/7th I was told that nowadays they only put black dots on special edition cameras where they originally were when these cameras were built. so they return them to the original state when repairing/fixing them but otherwise it will always be a red dot
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when I was in solms on november 6th/7th I was told that nowadays they only put black dots on special edition cameras where they originally were when these cameras were built. so they return them to the original state when repairing/fixing them but otherwise it will always be a red dot
Quite possibly, but the two stories are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I got my version from two Leica repair techs in 2012 at photokina -- the guys who actually do the dot swaps.

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chief of customer care and the leading technician told me...

they said they get many requests, especially from users of black leicas.

the background for that issue is that they arent allowed to put new black dots on leicas anymore. their reference were law issues. they didnt went any further. it was during a guidance through the factory and customer care while having a look at the latest products
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Leica camera does not own the logo, it is owned by another, separate company, Leica Microsystems (microscopes) and licensed to Leica Camera . The owner wants the logo exclusively in red. As simple as that.
Btw, it is logical that the Microscope company ownes the brand. It is much older than the camera division.
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Old 11-27-2012   #150
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DAG sells black dots, FWIW. I put one on my black M9.
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Old 12-05-2012   #152
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Voted ugly - for $5,500 I would expect a choice of colors!
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taking mine home on saturday can't wait to do the first exposure!

strongly disagree, beautiful camera
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Old 12-05-2012   #154
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Saw one in the flesh the other day and they are very nice indeed, the colour is unusual but looks good.
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Old 12-09-2012   #155
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I don't think its ugly or I wouldn't have purchased one.
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Old 12-10-2012   #156
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Voted ugly - for $5,500 I would expect a choice of colors!
What would you expect for $8,000?
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Disagree, and it needs IIIc K outfits.
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Old 12-11-2012   #158
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The M-E is a beautiful fresh approach to M design
I like the gun metal colour and lack of frameline selector so much I have swapped my M9 for an M-E (cash difference of course, but i see that as giving me two years more warranty!)

Perhaps the ugly votes are M9 owners protecting their investment?
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I just ordered an ME so I obviously don't think it is ugly. Have both silver and black lenses so looking forward to seeing how the new finish looks with both types. Won't have trouble distinguishing it from my chrome M2.
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Looks good with either chrome or black lenses.


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The one I got was listed "display model" and came with 96 actuations from the dealer--less, if I remember correctly, than what my new M8 came with. Save big, buy at the end of a cycle. Get the peace of mind of the full warranty and all the bugs ironed out. Definitely not ugly!
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