specs for the upcoming Fuji X-E1 mirrorless camera:

[kanzlr]

jsrockit, do not get pissed off because of rumors
if the sensor is the same, the lenses are the same, etc. then any AF improvement is because of improved software which should trickle up to the X-Pro1 too.

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by kanzlr

jsrockit, do not get pissed off because of rumors
if the sensor is the same, the lenses are the same, etc. then any AF improvement is because of improved software which should trickle up to the X-Pro1 too.

Come on, can't a guy vent?

[kanzlr]

Rerum irrecuperabilium felix oblivio

[willie_901]

I will speculate any improvement in AF speed (which is only only aspect of AF performance) will only be realized with the next wave of XF lenses.

I think this will be a great back up body for Fuji's XF platform.

More importantly, it should appeal to consumers making the switch from DSLRs to mirrorless cameras. The EVF quality had better be competitive though. Many DSLR owners have not experienced the advantages of a RF-esque OVF and will not miss it one bit. The camera operation will be much simpler compared to the XP-1. This should be good for people like me who are pleased with the new XF lens system.

So far Fuji has impressed me as an innovative company with a reasonable strategy. When I ordered the X100 in January 2011, I was worried about Fuji's long-term prospects. Now I'm not.

[aleksanderpolo]

Originally Posted by jsrockit

Come on, can't a guy vent?

But according to most forum gurus the XP1's focusing speed is perfectly fine, no?

[GaryLH]

Originally Posted by kanzlr

jsrockit, do not get pissed off because of rumors
if the sensor is the same, the lenses are the same, etc. then any AF improvement is because of improved software which should trickle up to the X-Pro1 too.

I am also hoping that it is due to a SW change... But the new body could also have a faster processing engine... Only time will tell.. Photokina cannot come soon enough

Gary

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by aleksanderpolo

But according to most forum gurus the XP1's focusing speed is perfectly fine, no?

Let's just say that we deal with it... but it is one of the slowest of the newer cameras.

[fstops]

The only consolation for Xpro1 owners was "the sensor is amazing", now that amazing sensor is going to be sold in a sub $1000 body, because people who did not buy Xpro1 will buy the new camera for its sensor only.

One has to admire Fuji and its understanding of current gear-driven photography market.


And keep a watch on the prices of used Xpro1!

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by fstops

The only consolation for Xpro1 owners was "the sensor is amazing" ...

Huh? For me it was the OVF, fast primes with close focus, and the dedicated shutter speed dial / aperture rings...

[PhotoMat]

Originally Posted by jsrockit

Let's just say that we deal with it... but it is one of the slowest of the newer cameras.

Sure, it's slower than my DSLR, but it's still faster than my Matt/M6 focus mechanism. I'm really not a zone focus guy, so that doesn't enter into the equation for me.

For me, the appeal of the XP1 is the image quality and the user interface. Plain and simple, I truly enjoy shooting with this camera and the images that I can create with it. My M9 lust has definitely cooled after using the Fuji.

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by PhotoMat

Sure, it's slower than my DSLR, but it's still faster than my Matt/M6 focus mechanism. I'm really not a zone focus guy, so that doesn't enter into the equation for me.

True, but with AF you wait for it, while with MF you are preoccupied with focusing...so you aren't thinking about how slow it is.

[PhotoMat]

Originally Posted by jsrockit

True, but with AF you wait for it, while with MF you are preoccupied with focusing...so you aren't thinking about how slow it is.

Meh. My attention span isn't that long!

[david.elliott]

Faster AF could be .03% faster. :P

It may not even be an increase that the typical user would notice. Or it could be a huge dramatic change...We just don't know at this point.

[aleksanderpolo]

AF speed is mostly dependent on lens, firmware update can only improve a little bit. So perhaps the new lens use IF mechanism like those in recent Panny/Oly lenses.

MF experience will depend on the refresh rate of the EVF, I wonder if Fuji's sensor layout is more demanding on the cpu, leading to a lower refresh rate than other current EVF.

[kanzlr]

Originally Posted by jsrockit

True, but with AF you wait for it, while with MF you are preoccupied with focusing...so you aren't thinking about how slow it is.

thats why the iPhone seems so fast compared to Android. It covers the wait time with short animations of what its doing.

[Audii-Dudii]

As one who rarely uses the OVF in preference for the LCD -- Yes, I'm one of those people! -- I would have preferred to wait for the X-E1 and kept $700 in my pocket than to have bought an X-Pro1 on its initial release. What's done is done, though, and I have no regrets.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by jsrockit

True, but with AF you wait for it, while with MF you are preoccupied with focusing...so you aren't thinking about how slow it is.

Totally OT.

John ... tell me about your new avatar photo ... it's intriguing. Those big roos can dissembowel you with their back legs quite easily.

What was she/he thinking?

[NickTrop]

Fuji is eating Leica's lunch in this category. This is what Leica should be doing if they want to remain competitive. That, and releasing Leica lenses in other mounts. That, and designing high-quality/high-performance lenses (in other mounts) and turning grunt production of said lenses over to Panasonic entirely.

[torn]

under 1000 pretty much means 1000

[Jamie Pillers]

Originally Posted by NickTrop

Fuji is eating Leica's lunch in this category. This is what Leica should be doing if they want to remain competitive. That, and releasing Leica lenses in other mounts. That, and designing high-quality/high-performance lenses (in other mounts) and turning grunt production of said lenses over to Panasonic entirely.

Unfortunately, Leica does not want to supply the masses with gear. They want to supply a certain niche and no more. Too bad, as I'd love to try some of that glass someday, but I doubt that day will ever come... unless of course I want to settle for some of that fake Leica glass found in compact Panasonic zoom lenses.

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by Keith

Totally OT.

John ... tell me about your new avatar photo ... it's intriguing. Those big roos can dissembowel you with their back legs quite easily.

What was she/he thinking?

Sorry Keith, I don't know who made the photo... but it's a lady (I believe) getting hit by the roo so hard that the hasselblad she was using flew out of her hands.

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by NickTrop

Fuji is eating Leica's lunch in this category. This is what Leica should be doing if they want to remain competitive. That, and releasing Leica lenses in other mounts. That, and designing high-quality/high-performance lenses (in other mounts) and turning grunt production of said lenses over to Panasonic entirely.

So you think it would be smart for Leica to turn into a consumer brand?

[semilog]

Originally Posted by jsrockit

Huh? For me it was the OVF, fast primes with close focus, and the dedicated shutter speed dial / aperture rings...

Correct. And one of the best lens roadmaps in the business.

[semilog]

Originally Posted by jsrockit

Kind of pisses me off... the improved AF part. How about the X-Pro1's slow AF Fuji?

1. It's not as though the AF performance of the X-Pro1 was in any way kept a secret. Seriously, if you bought an X-Pro1 and were disappointed that indicates either an inability or an unwillingness to read reviews and forums. Or it indicates that you bought one on day one of release. And I have no - zero - sympathy for that particular variety of early-adopter complaint.

2. For many kinds of shooting the X-Pro's AF performance is totally adequate -- especially with the XF 18/2. I'm happy with mine. I'm getting the photos that I want to get with it. Occasionally I miss but that's true with my DSLR and my M bodies, too.

3. What, you expected that they would not iteratively improve a brand new (opto)electronic product line?

[kanzlr]

as long as its faster than the Ricoh GXR 50/2.5...