Any news on the new Plustek 120 scanner? - Page 22

wblynch · 08-11-2012

I am surprised they still refuse to post samples...

clayne · 08-11-2012

I don't believe anyone said anything about refusing to post samples - perhaps they're just working on things still? Scanner manufacturers are probably not the people you have to fear for pulling shenanigans at this point.

mdruziak · 08-13-2012

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Originally Posted by clayne

I don't believe anyone said anything about refusing to post samples - perhaps they're just working on things still? Scanner manufacturers are probably not the people you have to fear for pulling shenanigans at this point.

It's not that we refuse to post samples. The samples I have seen were basically snapshots used for internal testing that wouldn't show the scanner in its best form. Camera focus and/or camera lens resolution were issues with the images. I am working with the product manager to get some images that were exposed with higher quality equipment.

There are no shenanigans. Just understand that the product team is very busy and they don't have a lot of time to generate PR samples.

david.elliott · 08-13-2012

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Originally Posted by mdruziak

It's not that we refuse to post samples. The samples I have seen were basically snapshots used for internal testing that wouldn't show the scanner in its best form. Camera focus and/or camera lens resolution were issues with the images. I am working with the product manager to get some images that were exposed with higher quality equipment.

There are no shenanigans. Just understand that the product team is very busy and they don't have a lot of time to generate PR samples.

If you send me a preproduction unit, I'll go out with my rolleiflex, hasselblad, m3, r8, and a tripod and take all sorts of photos and make sample scans for you!

edit - by the way, the photos you posted on 8/8 and 7/30 are, in my opinion, two of your best. I really like those a lot. Have always loved fog photos.

mdruziak · 08-13-2012

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Originally Posted by david.elliott

If you send me a preproduction unit, I'll go out with my rolleiflex, hasselblad, m3, r8, and a tripod and take all sorts of photos and make sample scans for you!

edit - by the way, the photos you posted on 8/8 and 7/30 are, in my opinion, two of your best. I really like those a lot. Have always loved fog photos.

Keep on sending the compliments and I'll send you a scanner

Another thing to consider is we do not have a staff photographer. Our Product Manager for the OF120 happens to be a very creative photographer, but she is very wrapped up with launching the scanner so shooting demo shots is not on her radar screen right now. I have some negatives that will be loaned to me so as soon as my scanner gets here I will have something to post.

david.elliott · 08-13-2012

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Originally Posted by mdruziak

Keep on sending the compliments and I'll send you a scanner

Another thing to consider is we do not have a staff photographer. Our Product Manager for the OF120 happens to be a very creative photographer, but she is very wrapped up with launching the scanner so shooting demo shots is not on our radar screen right now. I have some negatives that will be loaned to me so as soon as my scanner gets here I will have something to post.

I'm always happy to help out, both with compliments and scanning.

My offer stands. If you ever feel like taking me up on it, just send me a pm!

Looking forward to seeing the scans of the loaned negatives.

bwcolor · 08-13-2012

This idea of supplying a scanner to one of the talented members of RFF that use both 35mm and MF, color and B&W is a great idea. It is easy to see who meets these criterion. I qualify in all but the talent part, so don't send me one.

This is a real marketing stroke of brilliance.

defconfunk · 08-13-2012

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Originally Posted by mdruziak

Keep on sending the compliments and I'll send you a scanner

Another thing to consider is we do not have a staff photographer. Our Product Manager for the OF120 happens to be a very creative photographer, but she is very wrapped up with launching the scanner so shooting demo shots is not on her radar screen right now. I have some negatives that will be loaned to me so as soon as my scanner gets here I will have something to post.

Thanks for keeping us informed on this project. Personally, seeing a company directly involved with community (not just posting a facebook page) is worth more than advertisement.

I find it odd (not unsually, simply unexpected) that a company focused on optical equipment, with a specialist line of photo specific scanners, doesn't have a staff photographer. I don't mean as a full time photographer, but I would have expected you'd have more than a few really dedicated photographers on the team who could fill the role as and when needed. I would have guessed a couple of the engineers working on the film scanners would have a handful of technically excellent images that could be used.

Edit: Looking over your photo-a-day, blog you have some awesome stuff (7/1 is fantastic). Do you work totally in digital?

Glass Addict · 08-14-2012

I didn't read through all the comments as it spans 22 pages..
I'm in need of a 120 film scanner and have been waiting on this for a long time....

Is there a semi-firm date on this scanner? If the date is too far out, I may have no choice but to resort to a used Nikon or Epson..

jtm6 · 08-14-2012

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Originally Posted by Glass Addict

I didn't read through all the comments as it spans 22 pages..
I'm in need of a 120 film scanner and have been waiting on this for a long time....

Is there a semi-firm date on this scanner? If the date is too far out, I may have no choice but to resort to a used Nikon or Epson..

Here is the last official word I've read:

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Originally Posted by mdruziak

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Originally Posted by MSUSpartan

Let's say it's announced at Photokina, any idea on when we can actually buy one?

Right now the target is the end of September.

caasols · 08-17-2012

I don't know if this was posted, but I was contacted today by Plustek regarding pricing and avalibility on the new Opticfilm..

Dear Carlos Sol,

Thank you for your inquiry of OpticFilm 120.

OpticFilm 120 will be ready around end of November and beginning of
December. MSRP: 1999 Euro

Best Regards,
Nadia LU

buzzardkid · 08-17-2012

Let's hope for discounts to get that scanner moving, I'm not willing to sell gear to afford the scanner...

I've found access to an Imacon for EUR 1,75 per negative and will do initial scanning at home in 1200 dpi to assess what images I want Imaconed

Looking forward to seeing first scans and assess the quality of them, maybe I'll luck into a nice paid gig in the future and can afford it after all

Glass Addict · 08-17-2012

Ah.. too far away and over my budget..

mhanc · 08-17-2012

Not a buyer at that price... Oh well.

kmallick · 08-17-2012

Fuuggget it for that price!

bwcolor · 08-17-2012

Regarding price. I still have my Nikon, but when that goes, I would rather have high price than low quality. I can use my V-750 for lower quality. Right now, I can't afford this scanner, but I'm glad that they are shooting for better quality... at least that is how I interpret the price. If not, the market will lower the price.

Judging by the number of views on this thread, there is a healthy market on RFF for a new film scanner.

mafoofan · 08-17-2012

Assuming performance on par with or better than the Nikon 9000ED, the price seems fair. People scoffing at the expense would not have bought the Nikon when it was available, either. Now, used Nikons sell for huge premiums over their retail prices when new.

I think we need to be more realistic about the cost of such things.

stompyq · 08-17-2012

I think i'll stick with my Epson

wblynch · 08-17-2012

It will be interesting to see how many are sold. We might all be surprised.

kmallick · 08-17-2012

The price may be justified for the quality and target customer. But for many amateurs here on RFF like me, were hoping that these would be affordable. Bummer, its not. I will stick to a Canon 9000F flat bed as well.

hanskerensky · 08-17-2012

They also should sell it without the Silverfast SW, guess that would let the price drop by 200 till 300 Euros and make it a bit more affordable (higher sales numbers Plustek !).

Take for instance the medium format scanner Reflecta MF 5000. That costs € 1275,-- but if you buy it with Siverfast Ai Studio 8 the price rises to € 1675,-- !!

wkkato · 08-17-2012

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Originally Posted by kmallick

The price may be justified for the quality and target customer. But for many amateurs here on RFF like me, were hoping that these would be affordable. Bummer, its not. I will stick to a Canon 9000F flat bed as well.

On the brighter side, maybe this will drive the prices for used 8000's and 9000's down.

Of course, not if you want to sell yours.

Warren

kmallick · 08-17-2012

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Originally Posted by wkkato

Of course, not if you want to sell yours.

Nope, that lucky!

I believe the news of the incoming Plustek 120 already started driving their prices down. But I cannot justify them.

I think I will start enjoying wet B&W and RA4 printing even more.

---f · 08-17-2012

it's probably just suggested retail, let's wait and see what the market will bear. I do hope it's a reasonable price, I do get good results from Canonscan 9950F, but it's not perfect. LOL, what ever is?

literiter · 08-17-2012

Works out to about $2400 at manufacturers suggested retail. That could end up at as low as $1900 in the store.

I have a Nikon cs9000 and I'm happy with it, but I don't see a problem with the price of the Plustek.