Leica Oskar Barnack Award 2012, Frank Hallam Day, USA / „Alumascapes“

[Gabriel M.A.]

Originally Posted by loquax ludens

I didn't look at everything because the site is very poorly designed and next to impossible to navigate. I'm not going to see all the images because I'm simply not going to waste that much time trying to navigate that horrible mess.

Web design is usually an after-thought. The tragedy is, that usually good web design is trumped by big-wigs' "oooh! I have this great idea instead..." and "who cares? we're not going to be paid for this".

I guess that's also a problem that jurors face: bombardment of overloadedness of informativity (yes, that's not correct EngleAsh)...which may also explain why the Internet's Shock Factor comes into play: he who screams the loudest gets noticed. I guess he whose shots boggle the brain the most are remembered by the juror the best.

[paulfish4570]

the newcomer's stuff would have been exciting in about 1921 ...

[denizg7]

I am fairly certain this was post processed preferably the corners of the picture and the tree leaves anti aliased.

Having said that, I thought post processing was not allowed in the Barnack Award.

THis is shoddy

[BobYIL]

Originally Posted by Gabriel M.A.

....... Those photos are representative of the current trend of "a coherent set = show me ten copies of the same photo".

Today's photo jurysphere show as much imagination as their choices: bland, repetitive, and loves to play it "safe" (in a fashion-show kind of way, where wearing the ugliest outfit is considered "refreshing")...

Just out of curiosity: I indeed want to know/learn about this new trend: What's the point in this new trend? Why they repeat the same photo multiple times? Or are there minute differences amongst the pictures so that an "array" could accomplish what single one could not do? Thank you.

[redisburning]

well, I wouldn't have thought to do that.

at the same time, it's not so jarring that I believe it's genius work that I just am not ready for. it just looks like an RV in the swap shot with a flash to me.

edit: I really liked that "show me your face" set.

[puderse]

Oh my! What outstanding nitetime long exposure photos of grossmobiles in a Florida campground!

[asa 64]

I am not a home-run hitter myself but I found this series repetitive and boring like a game with only walks and singles.

[leicapixie]

Unbelievable! Leica Award shows it panders to the "art" group where if you don't get it you are stupid.. i know i'm the kid at the showing of the Emperor's New Clothes! The art folk talk about all sorts of thing but the subject sucks!
The pix all the same done in 3 mins, sorry longer, longer exposures.
The whole focus of Leica is now somewhere other than photojournalism, documentary or even pure recording. What with Hermes fashion, a photographer used to demonstrate the new Monochrom who shoots only "Black" and "White" and nothing in between--GRAY! OH maybe all the pubic shots of a "lonely" man.
Sure there are many ways to photograph. Here on RFF or any forum, there is way more interesting photos.
These pix are boring! What message?

[emraphoto]

i have never, in my life, heard any photographer, at any gallery tell someone 'they are stupid because they don't get it'.

all this 'art folk', 'hip kid' and judgement business here is disappointing. there is no box around photography or Leica and remember, all these 'art kids' are actually photographing, printing and showing their work. putting in the work necessary to do this. supporting others who do.

regardless if you like it, this crowd is doing more for photography than a bunch of close minded folks discussing what 'real' photography is on the internet.

[anu L ogy]

Won't comment on the actual winner, but the new comer looks alot like a cross between ripping off anders petersen and the kid who won last year.

[CNNY]

Originally Posted by emraphoto

i have never, in my life, heard any photographer, at any gallery tell someone 'they are stupid because they don't get it'.

all this 'art folk', 'hip kid' and judgement business here is disappointing. there is no box around photography or Leica and remember, all these 'art kids' are actually photographing, printing and showing their work. putting in the work necessary to do this. supporting others who do.

regardless if you like it, this crowd is doing more for photography than a bunch of close minded folks discussing what 'real' photography is on the internet.

Thank you!


ps: I may be one of those 'art folk' who 'get it', but I am not apologizing for it.

[emraphoto]

Originally Posted by anu L ogy

Won't comment on the actual winner, but the new comer looks alot like a cross between ripping off anders petersen and the kid who won last year.

LOVE Anders!!!

Check him out folks

[leicapixie]

Sorry i offended some "art" people.
i have had many exhibitions and done much work, for money and glory. i have taught photography for a government sponsored site towards a new country and democracy. i have lectured at a number of institutions., colleges and schools plus workshops. I taught about "seeing" images but was advised that i should stick to technical..makes for better employees.i told the students to study and research the history of photography AND Art. Not knowing the past,"they would re-invent the wheel".
i am tired of seeing mundane work addressed like something it is not! It is a few pictures of a campsite at nite! i'd rather have seen some photographer win, for capturing the "Spirit of Youth" by snapping A McDonald's Birthday party or two with a Holga.
Politeness was not needed here. The award should be for something really important! Look at the news headlines. Millions wiped out financially by corrupt money people backed by governments. "Cutting" back another catch phrase, with diminished taxes and of course services. These are important issues. Not a trailer park of those who have an aluminum tank.We never see the inhabitents!They could be Martians.
Flickr, Tumblr etc., all one can do is "like". Most pix fall into some sort of category and many bodies of work are truly remarkable!
The Art Colleges and include the photographic ones are geared to producing workers for corporations. A University degree used to mean a learning process that include a Liberal Arts program. Now it's all about business. Art dies!
We are the custodians of an art form. Defend it from being mundane and boring! A camera can be a great tool for taking note and making a change. Lets begin by telling the ones who awarded the prize, that it is a poor choice!
I see some of you like the series. i am pleased for you. i thought the Oscar Barnack Prize was awarded for outstanding work.
On these grounds HCB, Reza, Salgado would not make it the entry form.

[paulfish4570]

i like your style, leicapixie ...

[leicapixie]

I have spent the last few hours between my posting, exposing a film and now washing, going to Leica's site and seeing many,many submissions. Sadly only a few merit being shown. So many appear so trivial. Please go see for yourself. The pix are really small, typical Leica Gallery. Sad! Comparing to Flickr or Tumblr, or on "RFF forums" and the smaller "photo.net" a weekly showing of Nikon, Canon etc users, show many more and better work.Viewed also at decent magnification. True not a body of work.
Go to photographer links and we really see GOOD stuff.

[Tyler0462]

Originally Posted by leicapixie

Sorry i offended some "art" people.
i have had many exhibitions and done much work, for money and glory. i have taught photography for a government sponsored site towards a new country and democracy. i have lectured at a number of institutions., colleges and schools plus workshops. I taught about "seeing" images but was advised that i should stick to technical..makes for better employees.i told the students to study and research the history of photography AND Art. Not knowing the past,"they would re-invent the wheel".
i am tired of seeing mundane work addressed like something it is not! It is a few pictures of a campsite at nite! i'd rather have seen some photographer win, for capturing the "Spirit of Youth" by snapping A McDonald's Birthday party or two with a Holga.
Politeness was not needed here. The award should be for something really important! Look at the news headlines. Millions wiped out financially by corrupt money people backed by governments. "Cutting" back another catch phrase, with diminished taxes and of course services. These are important issues. Not a trailer park of those who have an aluminum tank.We never see the inhabitents!They could be Martians.
Flickr, Tumblr etc., all one can do is "like". Most pix fall into some sort of category and many bodies of work are truly remarkable!
The Art Colleges and include the photographic ones are geared to producing workers for corporations. A University degree used to mean a learning process that include a Liberal Arts program. Now it's all about business. Art dies!
We are the custodians of an art form. Defend it from being mundane and boring! A camera can be a great tool for taking note and making a change. Lets begin by telling the ones who awarded the prize, that it is a poor choice!
I see some of you like the series. i am pleased for you. i thought the Oscar Barnack Prize was awarded for outstanding work.
On these grounds HCB, Reza, Salgado would not make it the entry form.

Exactly the way I feel.

tyler

www.tylervance.com

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by emraphoto

regardless if you like it, this crowd is doing more for photography than a bunch of close minded folks discussing what 'real' photography is on the internet.

I have to agree. There is a very narrow view of what photography should be here.

[emraphoto]

Originally Posted by leicapixie

Sorry i offended some "art" people.
i have had many exhibitions and done much work, for money and glory. i have taught photography for a government sponsored site towards a new country and democracy. i have lectured at a number of institutions., colleges and schools plus workshops. I taught about "seeing" images but was advised that i should stick to technical..makes for better employees.i told the students to study and research the history of photography AND Art. Not knowing the past,"they would re-invent the wheel".
i am tired of seeing mundane work addressed like something it is not! It is a few pictures of a campsite at nite! i'd rather have seen some photographer win, for capturing the "Spirit of Youth" by snapping A McDonald's Birthday party or two with a Holga.
Politeness was not needed here. The award should be for something really important! Look at the news headlines. Millions wiped out financially by corrupt money people backed by governments. "Cutting" back another catch phrase, with diminished taxes and of course services. These are important issues. Not a trailer park of those who have an aluminum tank.We never see the inhabitents!They could be Martians.
Flickr, Tumblr etc., all one can do is "like". Most pix fall into some sort of category and many bodies of work are truly remarkable!
The Art Colleges and include the photographic ones are geared to producing workers for corporations. A University degree used to mean a learning process that include a Liberal Arts program. Now it's all about business. Art dies!
We are the custodians of an art form. Defend it from being mundane and boring! A camera can be a great tool for taking note and making a change. Lets begin by telling the ones who awarded the prize, that it is a poor choice!
I see some of you like the series. i am pleased for you. i thought the Oscar Barnack Prize was awarded for outstanding work.
On these grounds HCB, Reza, Salgado would not make it the entry form.

you aren't offending anyone. you are just painting with a very broad brush and using your own opinion as the paint. i applaud you achievements in teaching and lecturing... i am not convinced enough though, to change my opinions. i still like the work. i still think it is brilliant and i have had my fill of HCB, Reza and Salgado