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06-13-2012
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I'm in. Shouldn't be too tough to fit it in; I'll be on vacation for a week in July and I usually walk for at least an hour day to and from work. I just started using my CLE again recently after a long time on the shelf, this will be a good opportunity to get comfortable with it again.
Now the only question is to dig in to my stash of E200 or use the Portra 400 I haven't had a chance to test yet or see what B&W I have seven rolls of...
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06-13-2012
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#52
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Originally Posted by benlees
I don't think our digital brothers and sisters should be left out!
More rules:
around 6mp = 36 shots/day
around 10mp= 24 shots/day
around 12mp= 24 shots/day
around 18mp= 16 shots/day
around 20mp= 12 shots/day
+20mp = 10 shots/day
disclaimer: zero scientific pixel peeping parameters were used for the above recommendations. 
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thanks for thinking about us...
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06-13-2012
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#53
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Originally Posted by Batman
Now the only question is to dig in to my stash of E200 or use the Portra 400 I haven't had a chance to test yet or see what B&W I have seven rolls of...
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Keith said you can mix and match formats and cameras, and even transfer rolls from one camera to another. He didn't say anything specifically about having to use one emulsion for all seven rolls, so it seems likely you can shoot whatever film you like. I'm sure he'll clarify the rules eventually.
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06-13-2012
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#54
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Originally Posted by rjbuzzclick
Regarding those that shoot 4x5, I'd suggest four shots per day, which is about the same amount of film area as 36 exposures of 35mm, and is a lot to shoot from a large format perspective (at least the way I shoot).
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Per Keith earlier in the thread, you'd need to cut each 4x5 sheet into eighths and shoot each piece individually. That ramps up the complexity for sheet film users a bit. See post #29.
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06-13-2012
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Sounds scary!
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06-13-2012
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Count me in for this, will be a great project to get me out and shooting more! At the moment, a roll of film can take anywhere from 1-4 weeks to get through, so this will force me to get out and shoot more...
I figure I can get up slightly earlier for work and spend 20 minutes in the morning, if I take a lunch break I can shoot then & then do some night shooting after work. Will be an interesting mix of images, but I like that it will get me out & looking for opportunities to shoot!
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06-13-2012
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For Digital why don't we just say 36 shots in a day. Simple enough 
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06-13-2012
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Crazy idea, I'm in! Just received my Minolta CLE and I need to shoot.
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06-13-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kdemas
For Digital why don't we just say 36 shots in a day. Simple enough 
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i don't think we are invited...
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06-13-2012
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I've got a couple cameras I haven't used in awhile and a few given to me that I haven't got around to using. I could add a new camera for each of the seven days.
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06-13-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kdemas
For Digital why don't we just say 36 shots in a day. Simple enough 
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... or 24 shots. The same options as film.
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06-13-2012
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The only reason I didn't invite digital into this was because I thought there'd be considerable resistance to the idea, not to mention complicating the numbers. With film we have basic (exposures) 24, 36, 8, 10, 12, and 16 available between the two formats. Do we set the digital number at 24 so it lies somewhere in the middle ground and make sure that the chimping police are on hand for every digital shooter during their chosen seven day period?
If everyone in this thread is comfortable to have digital included that's ok because the majority rules after all and it never occured to me that our mighty moderator would take a rejection of his chosen medium so personally!
Then of course ... how the hell do I call this thing 'seven rolls in seven days!' 
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06-13-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
With film we have (exposures) 24, 36, 8, 10, 12, and 16 available between the two formats.
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Well, my 6x4.5 only gets 15 but I know some can get 16. And some square format can get 13 shots on a 120 roll. Then if you look at 220 rolls, you have (for 6x9, 6x7, 6x6, and 6x4.5) 18, 21, 24-27, 30-32. And lets not forget the half frame 135 cameras, or the other rollfilm formats (126, 110, APS, 8x11, etc).
There is quite a variety of exposures per roll in film formats. And self-loaders can load whatever they like.
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Originally Posted by Keith
Do we set the digital number at 24 so it lies somewhere in the middle ground and make sure that the chimping police are on hand for every digital shooter during their chosen seven day period? 
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We won't have roll police for the film shooters, so no need for chimping police for the digital shooters. Honor system.
I'd let them pick their roll size, and change it if they want. I might shoot some 135 and some 120 in two or more formats. They just have to explain what their "rolls" consisted of.
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Originally Posted by Keith
Then of course ... how the hell do I call this thing 'seven rolls in seven days!' 
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There is too much variability in what constitutes a roll to have much meaning beyond "roll of film". Perhaps you could call it 'seven arbitrarily selected metaphorical roll-equivalents in seven days'
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06-13-2012
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funny, LL ... 
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06-13-2012
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Originally Posted by JSU
My understanding is this is could be the minimum, that is, at least one roll per day, everyday, for seven consecutive days in July.
Be it a roll of 72 in an original Oly Pen or a roll of 3 in a Gandalfo 6 x 17, or a holder of two sheets of 4x5. The idea is to get out every day and make a shot! 
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I like the idea of including LF 4x5 as being one holder (two negatives) ... that's quite a commitment to do that every day for seven days!
No one has screamed "please no digital!" yet so that seems ok to me too. I think the digital shooters will have to apply some self discipline though. Everything has to be on the one card and that card to be used for the seven consecutive days ... maybe we should have exif data police?
If your card crashes that's bad luck ... but after all, the film shooters may botch a roll in developing or have some other type of mishap so the risks have to be included on an even scale IMO.
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06-13-2012
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There is too much variability in what constitutes a roll to have much meaning beyond "roll of film". Perhaps you could call it 'seven arbitrarily selected metaphorical roll-equivalents in seven days'
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LOL ... that was good! 
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06-13-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbsinto
Stipulating 24 or 36 shots per day results in frames shot for the sake of shooting (the Digital approach to photography).
I'm out virtually every weekend for hours at a time and often don't shoot a single frame, because there is nothing on the streets that particular day that catches my eye, so rather than blast away for the sake of blasting away, I'll pass on this assignment.
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+1
Though I love the idea of a bunch of people going around and shooting a truckload of film. That's got to be good for the medium. 
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06-13-2012
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For 4X5 how about 1 holder a day.....loaded with paper.
I'm sooo lazy.
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06-13-2012
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You mean 14 rolls in 14 days? Or 7 rolls in 14 days? Or ... ???
I think 7 rolls in 7 consecutive days during a 28 day period is challenging enough for me.
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It was a joke...
7 days of shooting will be fine, whatever the final rules are...
I only meant that I have at least 14 cameras I don't use too frequently, and it'd be fun to use them all for 14 days in a row...
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06-13-2012
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Just snagged the set of GA645 & W cameras from the classifieds and i have WAY too much 220 film sitting around.... i'm in.
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06-13-2012
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Originally Posted by canetsbe
Just snagged the set of GA645 & W cameras from the classifieds and i have WAY too much 220 film sitting around.... i'm in.
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Congrats on snagging those ... I looked at them earlier and thought that was a pretty good deal. And welcome on board.
I just hope Joe can find it in his heart to forgive me for being so remiss as to not think of including our digital brothers and sisters!
And I meant to mention ... people should be able to use any film they want at any stage ... mix and match is good! 
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Great idea! Finally I get a chance to consume my mounting stock of films.
BTW, I bulk load my own films. Can I load one exposure per roll? 
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06-13-2012
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ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
Congrats on snagging those ... I looked at them earlier and thought that was a pretty good deal. And welcome on board.
I just hope Joe can find it in his heart to forgive me for being so remiss as to not think of including our digital brothers and sisters!
And I meant to mention ... people should be able to use any film they want at any stage ... mix and match is good! 
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I guess if one's 'real life' choice of camera is not a rangefinder then maybe one doesn't belong around here!
It's never about photography around here is it ... it's always about the camera?
hhmmm...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by back alley
I guess if one's 'real life' choice of camera is not a rangefinder then maybe one doesn't belong around here!
It's never about photography around here is it ... it's always about the camera?
hhmmm...
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Touche ... !
Now you've put me in my place are you going to play along with this challenge ... or are you going to sit on the sidelines and sulk? 
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06-13-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
I like the idea of including LF 4x5 as being one holder (two negatives) ... that's quite a commitment to do that every day for seven days!
No one has screamed "please no digital!" yet so that seems ok to me too. I think the digital shooters will have to apply some self discipline though. Everything has to be on the one card and that card to be used for the seven consecutive days ... maybe we should have exif data police?
If your card crashes that's bad luck ... but after all, the film shooters may botch a roll in developing or have some other type of mishap so the risks have to be included on an even scale IMO.
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Please No DIGITAL !!!
there I screamed it ; ) That was part of the appeal ..for me anyway ...
Stick to your original plan Keith : )
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