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Old 05-06-2012   #41
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It's all kabuki.
Yeah, but real kabuki is more entertaining than internet fights.

This why I don't post on dpreview anymore. I'll go there to look up specs and other non-subjective information info on a camera.

If somebody can afford it and it makes them happy, then buy a Leica. If somebody doesn't like my camera, it says more about their failings than it says about me.
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Old 05-06-2012   #42
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it just means less people to drive up the used price.

I do find it funny, though, that many who would call a Leica a snob camera have lenses with a red/gold ring on them just so that everyone knows you spent the "big bucks" on your gear.
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Old 05-06-2012   #43
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Another here who doesn't mind DP Reviews but stays clear of their forums. I can't really understand getting all bitter and twisted about what some say about a camera. This thread has been entertaining in a sandbox fight sorta way from some of the posts.

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Old 05-07-2012   #44
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Wow, all of Canon were upset because you didn't like their camera. Impressive.

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Of course Canon would want positive reactions from any influential members of the photographic press; you can be sure they would have preferred one from Roger that day.
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there are much cheaper devices producing better image quality than the M9.
In someone else's hands or in yours? You only ever need to consider the latter.
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Yeah, but real kabuki is more entertaining than internet fights.
Too true.

As a silly aside, YouTube got a *lot* more bearable to visit when I installed Herp Derp YouTube, from http://www.tannr.com/herp-derp-youtube-comments/ . All the inane comments (and YouTube is, by far, the worst site on the internet as far as stupid comments go) get transformed into "herp derp": every comment section goes from a soul-crushing story of Man's inhumanity to Man, to a pleasantly surreal non-sequitur.

I'd love it if it worked for dpreview.com, too.
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No sure what you mean.
I mean that just use whatever works best for you, and don't worry about other people's needs because they will be different than yours.

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Shoot over ISO 400 with an M9 and any full-frame camera available at the time of the M9's release (in anyone's hands), compare the output and get back to me.
I don't have an M9 to shoot, but I would love to do this experiment. Not sure why I would need to get back to you about it, though.
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Slagging Leica is an age-old sport, it seems. Dunno how much of it is "sour grapes" because they can't afford one, and how much of it is what might be called reverse snob appeal.

But it's also a trend I note whenever a new camera comes out....sooner or later there will be a whole bunch of posts bitching about how they got their hands on the camera, and what a POS it is because of this, of that, etc.,etc......

Saw it with the Zeiss Ikon. Waiting for it with the XP1..and with the EM-5...
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Some people (including many on DPR) just don't get that a certain segment of photographers are completely happy with the spartan feature set that a Leica RF provides. Trying to change their attitudes is roughly akin to teaching beets to sing…
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As already noted, there is a subtle irony to some of the posts in this thread - there's a undercurrent of scorn for certain digital systems here at RFF. (Nikon 1, anyone?) Pot, meet kettle.
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No sure what you mean. Shoot over ISO 400 with an M9 and any full-frame camera available at the time of the M9's release (in anyone's hands), compare the output and get back to me. No amount of of magic-Solms pixie dust is gonna make that file any cleaner.

ETA: My "Canikon D whatever" told me to say this, I can't be held responsible since the darned thing does all my thinking for me.
Dunno what that "Canikon" means. Shoot my M9 at 1600 a whole lot, and I'm pretty happy with the results. Images compare favorably with those out of my DSLR...and in certain aspects are a little better. Guess it's just a case of beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Of course, everybody knows the lightest, quietest, most discreet camera is...a cell phone. So, time to unload the Leica gear and get an iPhone.....
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