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Old 03-15-2012   #481
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Amazing (old) Technology

The wooden cruiser is about the same age as the Nettar 510/2 used for the photograph.
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Old 03-16-2012   #482
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Old 03-16-2012   #483
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An Iskra, when it is working right, is one heck of a camera. The images from them in this thread are the reason I bought one. Of course that could just mean that all the guys with Iskras are incredibly good at scanning negatives.

How come I never run into subjects like that old Bentley?
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Old 03-23-2012   #484
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Balda Super Baldax + Ektar 100....

...i've been struggling a lot with scanning color negatives and having them turn out right. while this photo still has issues, i think it is my best yet.
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Old 03-24-2012   #485
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Balda Super Baldax + Ektar 100....

...i've been struggling a lot with scanning color negatives and having them turn out right. while this photo still has issues, i think it is my best yet.
There is something about this composition. It should be nice in B&W, too.

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Old 03-24-2012   #486
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Balda Super Baldax + Ektar 100....

...i've been struggling a lot with scanning color negatives and having them turn out right. while this photo still has issues, i think it is my best yet.
Very beautiful shot. Did you try to fix the rangefinder (read about the cameras problems on your flickr site)
btw does you Balda have a coupled rangefinder?
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Old 03-24-2012   #487
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There is something about this composition. It should be nice in B&W, too.

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thanks, i'm sure it would too. i'm a big fan of b&w.

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Very beautiful shot. Did you try to fix the rangefinder (read about the cameras problems on your flickr site)
btw does you Balda have a coupled rangefinder?
thanks & thanks for your comment on Flickr. yeah, the Super Baldax has a coupled rangefinder. i have described the issue to someone who used to repair rangefinders and he said the that translucent mirror that allows light to pass through the rangefinder has stopped working (moving) and the surface of it has become tarnished.... if i attempt to clean the mirror it will ruin its translucent effect and thus further ruin the rangefinder. sucks. but i'll manage with the accessory rangefinder that i have, i guess.

on the other hand, that very same person turned out to be a pro Hasselblad repairer and i was able to get him to CLA my Hasselblad kit. so in the end i'm happy.
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An Iskra, when it is working right, is one heck of a camera. The images from them in this thread are the reason I bought one. Of course that could just mean that all the guys with Iskras are incredibly good at scanning negatives.

How come I never run into subjects like that old Bentley?
Most likely because it's one of the rarest of Bentley's: one masquerading as a Jaguar.
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Most likely because it's one of the rarest of Bentley's: one masquerading as a Jaguar.
Humm...? I don't recognize that one then. From Swallow to SS to Jaguar to Ford I thought I was pretty knowledgable about Jag's. Apparently not. But that does look like a cat on top of the radiator cap. What is it, a Mk IV?
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Old 04-08-2012   #495
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Hi Giorgio

mine is the zeiss ikonta C 6x9, I am not exactly sure what is the problem and how to check it as its my first encounter with a folder camera. I do also suspect its some issue with the linkage from the shutter button to the trigger beside the lens, as since i encounter this problem, the folder keeps pop open easily when its close.

i should prob show some pictures which will be easier to diagnose .

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Any luck? If not, PM me and I'll pull out one of my C's and walk you through my problem so you can see if it is your problem.

Even without my help, you can determine whether this is the problem by looking at the linkage -- most of it is visible, no disassembly required.
You wil see a linkage that translates the shutter button action from the left of the camera to the right (this is below the bellows), another linkage that translates the action from the rear of the bellows to under the lens. It is the position of this linkage relative to the shutter actuating lever on the lens itself that is sometimes the problem. Sometimes the little flange on the back to front rod ends up on the wrong side of shutter actuating lever attached to the lens. When this happens, you cannot trigger the shutter.
This is easy to determine. Open the camera, cock the shutter and fire it by moving the shutter lever itself. If that works, you know that the shutter is functioning and you also see which direction the shutter lever needs to move. Now look at the linkage below the lens while you push on the shutter button and you will see if the end of the rod from back to front is positioned correctly.
If not, this sometimes fixes itself by closing the camera and then opening it slowly. If this does fix it, you can sometimes fix it by opening the camera part way and looking at the linkage. If it is opening wrong, helping it by inserting at semi rigid object like a file card can help the linkage move to the correct position.
None of this requires any force -- DO NOT force anything.
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Nice picture of a proud dog...btw is this Nettar a 6x9 camera? (just got a 6x6 super Ikonta, but still have to clean it before I can put a roll in)
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Old 04-08-2012   #497
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Zeiss Super Ikonta 513/16 from around 1935 with an uncoated Tessar



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Sublime. This looks like a 19th century landscape painting.

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Yes, thank you. Combined with modern color film this uncoated lens produces some very special effects.

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Old 04-09-2012   #501
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Hi Eddy,

None of this requires any force -- DO NOT force anything.
Good luck.

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Eddy: Giorgio is correct, of course, especially as regards the shutter actuator linkages. Do not apply force. I did, however, apply a nudge . My C had the opposite problem as yours, in that yours pops open easily when closed, while mine could barely be coaxed to unfold when I pressed the button to open it. Mind you, all this is probably unrelated to the shutter linkage bits and your problem there, unless there's been an impact over near the door and a bent strut or similar.

With the front standard already open, if you press down the opener button, you'll see it is connected to a long flat rod with a ridge near the end. This ridge in turn moves a latch inward (i.e., toward the bellows) when you press the opener button. That latch hooks onto a catch on the edge of the door. With just dull pressure from my thumb, I bent the latch imperceptibly further inward so that it hooks with the catch on the door ever so slightly less well, and the door opens with less difficulty. I would venture a guess that if you minutely nudged the latch the other way (i.e., away from the bellows) on yours, it might make the door stay closed slightly better. I would never bend it with any screwdriver or similar--just with a finger or thumb--so as not to concentrate much force at a tiny point. (Also, you want pointy metal tools nowhere near the bellows, lest something slip and rend a great hole in them.)

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Yes, thank you. Combined with modern color film this uncoated lens produces some very special effects.
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... and I also like the composition of this one, as well the first two pictures.
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I'm beginning to really wonder why we go through all the trouble of inventing 35 megapixel cameras, vibration reduction, Photoshop, zoom lenses, $5000.00 + lenses when some of this work is so scary good.
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This is a set with Perkeo I. Simple Vaskar, but very fair results in b/w.

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I'm beginning to really wonder why we go through all the trouble of inventing 35 megapixel cameras, vibration reduction, Photoshop, zoom lenses, $5000.00 + lenses when some of this work is so scary good.
How is what you are suggesting going to line the pockets of Corporate CEO's with multi million dollar annual salaries?
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The second one genuinely looks like something that doesn't exist anymore, if you get what I mean...
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I'm beginning to really wonder why we go through all the trouble of inventing 35 megapixel cameras, vibration reduction, Photoshop, zoom lenses, $5000.00 + lenses when some of this work is so scary good.
If you want to see truly scary, go back and go through some of the old shoeboxes of pictures your parents and grandparents stashed away. In the case of your grandparents, many of them took pictures with these old folders. Also, many of them were just grabbing snapshots, and not particularly good at photography.

Now, that's scary when you see how good many of those old photographs and negs look even today.

I know my grandpa was not patient enough to be called good at taking pictures. His tactic was, "Ok, everybody stand over there by the sign, and smile." CLICK! "OK, now back in the car!" RRRRNNNNHHH!
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If you want to see truly scary, go back and go through some of the old shoeboxes of pictures your parents and grandparents stashed away. In the case of your grandparents, many of them took pictures with these old folders. Also, many of them were just grabbing snapshots, and not particularly good at photography.

Now, that's scary when you see how good many of those old photographs and negs look even today.

I know my grandpa was not patient enough to be called good at taking pictures. His tactic was, "Ok, everybody stand over there by the sign, and smile." CLICK! "OK, now back in the car!" RRRRNNNNHHH!
I think we should get some of us, me included, to post what we think are the best of our parents and grandparents pictures from before the '60s when they were using folders and box cameras or whatever.
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I think we should get some of us, me included, to post what we think are the best of our parents and grandparents pictures from before the '60s when they were using folders and box cameras or whatever.
Okay, I'll start with some photos my father made in the 1930's. The negatives are 6x9 cm, the camera might have been a Bessa (not sure, though). Subtitles are the original notes my father made.


"An der Werra"


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