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Old 04-04-2012   #2041
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Wow, I never realized how awesome these OM cameras look. I'm tempted to buy one now but I also realize that I do have a perfectly fine working minolta X-700. Could someone compare the size of these bodies, and even better if they have experience with both tell me which they prefer. Glass for the olympus seems to be more readily available, but the minolta glass is cheaper.

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I prefer the Olympus OM cameras, but the Minolta X-700 is also quite a nice camera. (This particular X-700 is not functional because the film advance lever does not cause the film to advance. )
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I bought a an OM1n and an OM 2n and some lenses on impulse a few months ago. Rather than take my Leica ski touring in Alaska I took the OM1n. It performed faultlessly and I'm very impressed with the flare resistance. It's got me wondering if I really need so much money tied up in Leica glass/bodies.

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Pete, Those are some lovely samples you posted. I especially like the mailboxes. Which lens and film did you use?

What's your opinion on picture quality between the two systems?

I have never had any Leica gear to make my own comparison.

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Pete, Those are some lovely samples you posted. I especially like the mailboxes. Which lens and film did you use?

What's your opinion on picture quality between the two systems?

I have never had any Leica gear to make my own comparison.

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Thanks Bill.
My eye isn't sophisticated enough to tell much difference between the two systems. I suspect that I might see less in the way of chromatic aberration (eg branches against bright sky) with Leica but I couldn't swear to it. If someone were to ask me if it was worth the expense of getting into the Leica M system from OM I'd have to say no. The OM with 35/2.8 feels lighter than my M2 and 35/2 asph. It is also slightly smaller. The lenses are cheap enough to abuse in a back pack and very light and compact. It's a great system. In low light it may be that the Leica's aberrations are better controlled but I have to say that it's the aberrations that, for me, make film look so nice. See the two attached photos. They've a lovely feel to them. (With the 50/1.4). I think the flare on the 2nd shot is due to the lens steaming up on entering the cafe.

The mailboxes were with the much maligned 35mm/2.8. You know, the one that isn't sharp . The film is Portra 400. I used a cheap KOOD 3 stop ND filter to get the aperture wider.

I bought the OM1n and OM2n off the auction site. I put new light seals in both. I'm not sure if I'll be using the OM2n if someone in the UK is interested. I've a couple of lenses (50/1.4, 28/3.5) and a winder2 available.

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Got a question if someone could answer. My Om-1 viewfinder is kinda dusty and it seems like the dust is on the focusing screen. The viewfinder looks clean. So what can i do about that ? Tried to clean it without removing it, but nothing ... seems like the dust is inside.
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Got a question if someone could answer. My Om-1 viewfinder is kinda dusty and it seems like the dust is on the focusing screen. The viewfinder looks clean. So what can i do about that ? Tried to clean it without removing it, but nothing ... seems like the dust is inside.
Has the camera ever been overhauled with new foam? I've heard that deteriorating foam can present like this.
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Has the camera ever been overhauled with new foam? I've heard that deteriorating foam can present like this.
I don't think so. When i got it was dirty, so i cleaned it, put new light seals and a friend of mine cleaned the viewfinder from dust. I looked around it and there's some foam along the screen, but it looks fine
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Could it be behind the VF eyepiece?
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I don't think so. I think i should remove the focusing screen and clean it. Removing it i think it's not so hard, buut ... I'm afraid i could mess up the meter ( is it possible ) Also any tips how to remove it are welcome
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Removing the focusing screen is easy. With a fingernail or non-marking tool, press up on the frame tab and it will unlatch. Remove the screen with the tool included with the screen, or very carefully with tweezers.

Do NOT use any alcohol-based cleaner on the screen. If you cannot brush or blow off all the dust, you can use a bit of distilled water, then blot dry with a lint free cloth such as Kimwipes or similar.
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Those focusing screens are very delicate and easily damaged. Be very careful cleaning them.

I ruined my first one years ago by not knowing better.
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Those focusing screens are very delicate and easily damaged. Be very careful cleaning them.

I ruined my first one years ago by not knowing better.
Me too. It went back in far far worse than it came out . 30 years later, my heart was in my mouth when I bought a new screen for my Hasselblad!
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Take a look at the tool that Olympus provided.

Use similar tweezers ONLY on the little tab that sticks out from the screen.

http://www.star.ucl.ac.uk/~rwesson/esif/om-sif/findergroup/focusingscreens.htm

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The 21/2 has no equal; there is no substitute. 12x16in, 16x20in prints are no problem for this lens, the limiting factor is the film (if shooting something with medium grain like the above, that is). Rangefinder shooters bang on about their superior wide-angle lenses, but truth be told, despite any theoretical advantages, you cannot ask for more in the 35mm format than what the Zuiko gives you, unless you really want to get this same resolution at f/2.8 (which would be odd indeed, since the field would be quite shallow, destroying most of the details in anyway).

I just got myself some Adox CMS20 to properly test the resolution capabilities of the Zuikos, I'll report back once I've shot some.
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Some images from the 50mm f/1.2. I perchance managed to acquire a new one manufactured in 2002 according to its date code - talk about a find! I'm really loving what it can do, especially with Pan F.

What's Keeping Her?

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Skyward Pots


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Lord of fake mice


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Holy crap! I'm one of the oldest Zuikoholics here, and I never come across finds like that! Congrats, and give me your address so I can steal that lens.
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Holy crap! I'm one of the oldest Zuikoholics here, and I never come across finds like that! Congrats, and give me your address so I can steal that lens.
I live in South Africa, good luck
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Well, that's a start ...
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Well i clean it. It still has some dust on it, but i don't think i'd go with anything with water on it. But it's better now. Oohh, and these guys really thought how to make it easy. Press the frame tab and it comes down. I have small hands so i just took it out
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My nephew playing hide and seek with Oscar. OM2 and 50/1.4. Delta 100







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John, by the irregular frames (if they were not digitally added) I assume these were darkroom prints. If so, they are very aptly done - excellent!
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Some images from the 50mm f/1.2. I perchance managed to acquire a new one manufactured in 2002 according to its date code - talk about a find! I'm really loving what it can do, especially with Pan F.
Lucky find and great work! I managed to get a brand new 50mm f1.4 with the highest serial I have ever seen, well above 1.1m. It is a fantastic lens, I love owning a piece of OM gear that nobody else has ever used.


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John, by the irregular frames (if they were not digitally added) I assume these were darkroom prints. If so, they are very aptly done - excellent!
Hi P,

No that's just scanning outside the image area on my Minolta Multi Scan Pro. I agree though, it gives it a nice 'wet print' look. These were scanned initially at 4800 dpi and resized.

I do hope to have my new darkroom up and running soon after a break of 15 years or so. Just slowly collecting all the paraphernalia on ebay with a 6x9 enlarger coming up soon.

BTW loved the 50/1.2 shots and the street hawker is spot on.

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Insanity has happened on the bay today.
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I've got a scratched one of those, and it cost me merely 30 quid...
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I've got a scratched one of those, and it cost me merely 30 quid...
I saw that! I have two OM4ti's which both came with the 2-13 screen and both cameras complete cost considerably less than £225 (ie, about $360!). Madness.
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Yep, that's what I had to do some time ago to my Minolta MD "collection"
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I'm selling one of my OM-3 in the classifieds, those don't pop up often.. So i thought i ll let you know

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Taken with my G.Zuiko 50mm 1.4 and my OM2n (which is sold to make way for OM4t black)


Unfortunately, that lens has a crippled diaphragm blade just last week
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My little pile of Zuikos has gotten a new lease on life since I picked up a NEX-7 - the combination really works well. I'm actually considering adding to the stable! My 24/2.8 in particular is great on this body:



A fast 50 in particular would be tasty, especially since my Nikkor 50/1.2 on a NEX adapter is a behemoth on the NEX. My Zuiko 50/1.8 MIJ is doing just fine for the moment, though!
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i think i know now why i like my zuiko 50/1.8 so much: it renders like an elmar 50/2.8 i had 30-plus years ago, but with a little more speed.

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Paul: All my Kodachromes seem to have withstood the test of time despite, shall we say "uneven" storage conditions.

Also, I really like your observation about the 50/1.8 ... not having had an Elmar, I wouldn't have noticed that, but I think you are onto something. Different optical formulas, but I think the looks are similar. My favourite normal is the Rollei Tessar 40/2.8, which I think epitomizes that look.

CVickery: Seek out a Cockburn concert and shoot with that rig! FrankS is a good friend of mine, so I'm glad you two connected. I've seen Bruce three times, all in different decades; the last time was in Brampton.

Jules: I'm not sure. I never shot with much other than Kodachrome, Ektachrome and Agfachrome; the Fuji stuff never did much for me, except for Astia, which is different from Kodachrome.

Thanks, everyone ... one more Kodachrome/OM shot below ...
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if you don't have a 50/3.5 macro I highly suggest you purchase one.

it is very rare for a person as picky and fickle as me to find something I can say is unequivocally amazing. I treat this lens like it only works at f5.6 and am NEVER disappointed by the results.

this is one of a handful of OM lenses that I have bought myself, rather than having been gifted. but this would be the last to go.

I'm going to develop a roll of the same film I used my ZM50 on. I will update the thread with my thoughts. I have mentally prepared myself to accept that the Zuiko may be a superior lens, both technically and stylistically. We shall see. I now have my own scanner, I haven't seen much of the Planar on t-grained film, so this is only a guess (fear). Until then, here are my two favorite shots from the roll:


Untitled by redisburning, on Flickr

my only complaint is that I still cannot focus an SLR with the same accuracy as a RF, and these shots were the result of me taking a very, very long time on each shot.

oh, and excellent shots everyone! I love to see Kodachrome. Unfortunately I missed the boat on that one; I started taking photographs very shortly after Dwayne's discontinued processing.
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I have been given two 50/3.5s, sold one to Gene W. I will confess I haven't used it much, but I should. The person who gave them to me used the 50/3.5 a lot. I promise I'll do better!
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well a promise is a promise.

I can say at this point that my Scan Dual 3 does not have a high enough resolution to tell which lens has more resolution in lp/mm.

But, I think this speaks fairly highly to the little Zuiko. It is more than capable of making razor sharp negatives.

So, the ZM Planar offers you 2 more usable stops (2.8 and 4; the Zuiko IMO should be shot only at f5.6 unless you need the extra depth of field that f8 offers) and it's emergency aperture is about 3 stops faster. It also can be bought new (for a reasonable price in the realm of new lenses, I might add), is an M mount lens and offers more modern coatings.

The Zuiko is much, much less expensive and focuses very close.

Now to the more subjective things. The Zuiko has a different kind of rendering than any other lens I've ever owned. Where I think it excels the most is when you capture the ground and see the picture drift into and then out of the plane of best focus.

The ZM is more of a general purpose lens IMO, and there it cannot be faulted. I had originally mistook the Zuiko's special look, which I like but understand others may not, as being some sign of general quality. Rather than that, it is a unique little gem. And for the 135 dollars I paid for an EX+ condition copy from KEH, I would RUN to get one just to have it in your bag when what it does is exactly what you want.
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So, the ZM Planar offers you 2 more usable stops (2.8 and 4; the Zuiko IMO should be shot only at f5.6 unless you need the extra depth of field that f8 offers) and it's emergency aperture is about 3 stops faster
Hi,

The Zuiko 50/3.5 is a fine lens indeed.

Without possessing any equipment to differentiate between the resolution of these two fine 50mm lenses, I find it a bit odd (arrogant?) for you to assert that the f/2.0 aperture of the ZM Planar, one of the finest lenses created, is an "emergency" aperture. On what do you base this?

You should learn to optically print your negatives - not only will this bring you great joy compared to scanning, you might then more accurately be able to make statements about lens performance, without all the troubles caused by scanning (which range from focus issues, uneven performance over scanner image field, massive exaggeration of film grain due to aliasing, etc).

Of course, you may just find (as most others have) that apart from minor character differences, just about all 50mm lenses have the same perfect performance at moderate apertures, and stop worrying about it :-) Other things, such as style of camera + focusing accuracy, and utility (close-focusing) make a much bigger difference.

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I have in the past optically printed when I was still enrolled at a university. I currently own an enlarger, I just don't have the lenses for it.

the reason I say f2 is an emergency aperture is that I live in Texas where even with 100 speed film I can shoot at any aperture I want and still get easily hand-holdable shutter speeds. Since f4 is better than f2, I don't see much of a reason to shoot at f2. It's just like the Zuiko at 3.5. It's not bad. It's not the same as a first generation f1.2 at max aperture, so maybe emergency is too strong a word for it.

and I have actually paid for higher res scans with the Planar and shots at f2 were just fine (in fact, they were the best pictures I took that trip) but honestly if I could have stopped down I would have liked too. I just like 50s at mid apertures the best. I would share them, but theyre pictures of my family and I have reservations about doing so.
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the reason I say f2 is an emergency aperture is that I live in Texas where even with 100 speed film I can shoot at any aperture I want and still get easily hand-holdable shutter speeds. Since f4 is better than f2, I don't see much of a reason to shoot at f2. It's just like the Zuiko at 3.5. It's not bad. It's not the same as a first generation f1.2 at max aperture, so maybe emergency is too strong a word for it.
Ah, well, I just wanted to clear that up - f/2.0 on the Zuiko 21mm f/2.0, for example, is an "emergency aperture" because it's plagued with severe optical aberrations at that aperture. The ZM planar is nearly optically perfect at every aperture, so a different word is indeed in order
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