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120 / 220 film RF's 120 / 220 format rangefinders including Fuji, Koni-Omega, Mamiya Press, Linhof 6x7/6x9 cameras, Mamiya 6/7 among others, but excluding the 120 folders and the Voigtlander 667 cameras that have their own forums.

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Old 08-16-2011   #41
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There's a review of the camera on BJP:

http://www.bjp-online.com/british-jo...-format-gf670w

Not sure how helpful it really is, though. A lot of praise but little useful information.
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Thanks for all the input and help!
At the end of the day I coudn t resist and bought a makina, thought this would be a bargin, but then I have to send it to Plaubel and now it it is the normal price. But in my eyes it is a real beauty!
When I will have a bit more time, I will post some pics.
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Thanks for all the input and help!
At the end of the day I coudn t resist and bought a makina, thought this would be a bargin, but then I have to send it to Plaubel and now it it is the normal price. But in my eyes it is a real beauty!
When I will have a bit more time, I will post some pics.
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It's certainly a very pretty camera and from what I've seen the f2.8 lens is very nice. I've never held one, though.
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wide open, near it is like every lens a bit difficult, but I like the soft and sharpness when you get the focus.
This is Trix @ 800 in diafine
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Old 10-19-2011   #45
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I have had the 667W for a couple of weeks now. Took it for a trip to New York and Pittsburgh. It was not my main camera (Leica MP and Bessa R4M). I find it very comfortable to handle - a bit like an oversized M camera. The AE exposure system is spot on 99% of the time.
Shot is from Herald Square, N.Y. @ 4.5 and 1/15 handheld. Tmax 2-400/HC 110/1:60/12.5 min.

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Old 10-20-2011   #46
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Frank Lloyd Wrights "Falling Water" in Pennsylvania. One of the reasons I did go to the LHSA meeting in Pittsburgh this year. I had seen pictures of the building, but they really dont do it justice. In the setting it looks spectacular - though the interior is cramped to put it mildly.
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Old 10-28-2011   #47
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The Bessa 667W as a "street shooter camera". It works very well - the finder is incredibly bright with a very well defined focussing patch. Optical quality is high and coupled with the 120 negative - you can really see the details. OK, so you have to reload 3 times as often and it is not exactly small. Quiet enough so there is small red light by the viewfinder that flashes to tell you that you just exposed a frame. With any street noise - you can not hear the shutter - and if you cant - nobody else can.
Tmax-2 400/HC 110/1:60/ 12.5 min.
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I posted this as large as it will give you a chance to see the image quality - even at f4.5 it is sharp.
New York Parking is expensive - easy $16/hour!!!
Tmax-2 400/HC 110/1:60/12.5 min
This is also in 6x7 mode - 10 shots/roll!
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Old 10-28-2011   #49
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The clarity is incredible.
Always fun looking at NYC pics.
Well done.
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Old 10-28-2011   #50
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I am determined to marry this camera one day.
It would be a match made in heaven.
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Old 11-04-2011   #51
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From the "Occupy Vancouver" site. I have no idea what they are protesting here!
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Zephyr, our friends cat who lodges with us when they travel. he likes the stairs to the darkroom as he can be eyelevel with anyone passing by!
Bessa 667W at 1/30 and f4.5. Tmax 2-400 in Adox MQ for 8.5 min.
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Old 11-22-2011   #53
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Yokohama, Japan a couple of weeks ago. Took the Bessa 667W along as a "large M2". Interestingly enough, it created quite a stir among camera afficinados there. Only the Fuji Wide is sold there (and that is in chrome). Had a steady stream of people trying to read the name tag on it.
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Old 01-17-2012   #54
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Best I can tell the GF670W is not available from US dealers. If I'm wrong about this, please let me know who carries it. I have the GF670 with the 80mm lens and it is great for things like waist-up portraits and so on. I've found that friends love to have their picture taken with such a funky looking camera. Of course I offer them prints of the shots. The other thing I like about it is its portability. I travel A LOT and, if your a MF/Fuji lens nut like me, it is a real treat. So now I want to check out the W, but not at $2600 mind you.
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Steve gandy sells them. There is a link above that still works.

I think there is a decent market for a more portable MF wide, but $3K is steep
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Old 02-06-2012   #56
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Definitely too expensive.
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Guys, consider the price of a new 55mm f4.5 lens for 6x6 or 6x7, how much new?
O.K. It could be a little cheaper, but not much.
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It is not cheap by any means - but it is a brand new camera with top-of-the line specs. Have you priced a Rolliewide lately? Or even a Hasselblad 500CM in as new condition with a 50mm lens in similar condition.
I have the 667W and find it well worth the investment. Superb optics, easy handling and the best finder in a 120 Rf ever!
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Old 02-24-2012   #59
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Does the lens come off? What's that little switch above the beauty plate on the lens board?
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The lens is fixed. The switch is the on/off switch for the metering and camera functions.
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I have the 667W and find it well worth the investment. Superb optics, easy handling and the best finder in a 120 Rf ever!
I also have the 667W and agree with Tom about the finder. Big, clear, bright, free of distortion, clear frames, simple exposure info. This camera may be expensive, but it's worth the money.
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I do hope that Fuji starts importing the GF670W directly, as they have the GF670. That would cut the price almost in half if things follow suit.
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To Celluloidprop - I refer you to Tom's earlier post and suggest a dash of realism here. My three Rolleiflex cost $1500, $2500 and $3500. The lowest cost one is standard focal length and was practically given away from an estate sale. Half of that cost went on a CLA. The others worked well enough as received not to need that. All three cameras are over 50 years of age.
You're dreaming if you think a new 667W will come down to half the present cost under any scenario you imagine.

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It is not cheap by any means - but it is a brand new camera with top-of-the line specs. Have you priced a Rolliewide lately? Or even a Hasselblad 500CM in as new condition with a 50mm lens in similar condition.
I have the 667W and find it well worth the investment. Superb optics, easy handling and the best finder in a 120 Rf ever!
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Ah, I misremembered Cameraquest's pricing on a Bessa III - the difference a bit more than 25% buying a GF670 via B&H. I believe the Bessa III was even more prior to Fuji importing the GF670.

In which case a GF670W via B&H will probably be ~$2250 - if, as I said, things follow suit. A healthy savings of $750 - or almost two hundred rolls of Portra.
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I do hope that Fuji starts importing the GF670W directly, as they have the GF670. That would cut the price almost in half if things follow suit.
+1 and I would get one, no sweat; since virtually all my film shooting is B&W, not being able to close the folder without removing the filter (or the filter in a hood) first was a deal-breaker for me.

Since B&H, Adorama and Badger have the folding Fuji GF670 listed for $1664, if the wide version came in at about 2k or so I think they would have a hit on their hands (though I gotta say the Bessa version in black looks sweeet...). I understand the limited production nature of the camera but I fail to see how the wider, fixed lens should command a 33% price premium over the folder.

My "fantasy" version would also be switchable to 6x4.5 which would give it an almost normal FOV and 16 shots to a roll but I know I'm only dreaming
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The more I use the Bessa 667W - the more I like it! The lens is superb, sharp and with a nice contrast to it - not too edgy but just enough "snap" to make the negs pop. The AE works better than my brain - 99% of all shots are done with the AE - the odd one I do over-ride which is very easy and quick.
A friend gave me 5 rolls of Kodak +X 220 and I took them to Texas last week. Vancouver does not have enough light at the moment for +X!!!
We happened to get to Fredricksburg, Texas as the Texas VW Bug show was on - about 500 bugs in every shape gathered.
+X, processed in Pyrocat HD, semi stand development for 40 min (agitation at 10/20/30 min).
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OK, most lenses are good stopped down to f11 or f16. The Bessa 667W is razor sharp at f4.5 too!
This is Mailee at Junior's in Round Rock, Texas. 1/15s and f4.5. Tmax 2-400 in Pyrocat HD, semi stand development.
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Hi Tom,

I like the results! Was it handheld or do use a tripod?

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I rarely use a tripod - I know that sometimes I should, but when traveling it becomes yet another piece of equipment that one has to drag around. The Bessa III and 667W are so soft in the release that I can handhold it at 1/4 sec with reasonable success.
In my past I shot a lot of large format and 120 with slow films - industrial photography and I learned to hate tripods with a vengeance. Fights with airlines about the bulk of them, dragging them around on sites etc - so when I stopped doing that I decided that a/ no tripods, except for macro work and b/only black and white and c/no clients/art directors to contend with.
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Thanks Tom!
With the Plaubel 1/30 works with risk. Sometimes 1/15
So very impressive, very nice shot.
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Both are Voigtlander Bessa III 667W with FP4+, scanned with a Nikon Coolscan 9000ED.

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2012-05-26 at 10-16-15 by Hart from Golborne, on Flickr[/IMG]

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2012-05-26 at 12-46-49 by Hart from Golborne, on Flickr[/IMG]
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I'm so pleased with my Bessa III 667W that I'm seriously considering selling-off all my Hassey gear and adding the Bessa III folder to my MF kit.
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Just been reading through this thread as I have a growing interest in the GF670W for health reasons.

I'm currently using a Hass SWC, 500CM and Fuji GW690III.

I'm also now suffering quite seriously from hip joint and back problems. I just don't know how much longer I can cope with hauling the weight of these cameras.

The GW690 is a dream of a camera when it comes to image. The results are just spectacular. But I find it a heavy beast. The SWC is also capable of fantastic results but the 6x6 perspective is somewhat limiting. It does very well for some subject but not for others.

You can see where I am coming from - if the optics on the GF670W are anywhere near as good as the 690 then I'd probably benefit from less weight and bulk but it would mean saying goodbye to the SWC.

Or should I sell the 690 and just haul around the SWC?

Any opinions?

I mainly do urban landscapes with the occasional foray into the English countryside.

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Hi louis,

I once had a swc and now a plaubel 670! Like the 6x7 more, so if I where you, I would buy 670W and test it, then sell the gear I don´t need any more.
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Thanks for the advice. Still hemming and hawing. I want both! Might sneak it in under the radar from the wife, try it and decide what I want to keep.

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Thanks for the advice. Still hemming and hawing. I want both! Might sneak it in under the radar from the wife, try it and decide what I want to keep.

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I wish you good luck. My wife or my daughters always ask: Is this new?
Äh, ah..... Bad luck.
But it is the best way to get the right camera, you want to use in future.
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Pressed the button on a Fuji GF670w

This thread made me laugh. I last posted on September. It has taken me nearly four months to make my mind up!

Fuji GF670w, Kodak Portra 400, 6x7 frame - pretty much the first out of the camera.

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Congratulations!

Hope you are satisfied with your new toy!

Nice shot.
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Hope you are satisfied with your new toy!

Nice shot.
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So far, yes. Great in the hand and very tempting to use without a tripod or external light meter. Not that much wider than a M7 but a lot deeper. Incredibly quiet in operation, in fact alarmingly so. Super sharp lens.

Only downside is the lousy weather in the UK. Not inspired to go out and use it!

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