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O yeah, here's my pre-order confirmation! 36 10.43%
You bet! just have to de-GAS a few gears to fund it 23 6.67%
Positively, but only when it hits street price level 65 18.84%
I don't know, I like it, but won't my APS-C buddies shun me? 50 14.49%
Heck no! I won't be caught dead with a dinky m4/3rd camera 110 31.88%
OMD? Are they coming out with a new album? 61 17.68%
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Old 02-10-2012   #1
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Are you going OM-D?

There is a lot of things to like with the new OM-D.

Is it good enough for you?
Is it enough to sway you from your previous bias towards the smaller sensor? (smaller, not tiny)
Is it just another pretty body without substance?
Is it the answer to your dream?

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Old 02-10-2012   #2
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Not sure it's that pretty
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Old 02-10-2012   #3
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Old 02-10-2012   #4
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Very tempted! This is a much prettier camera than the X100 or X-Pro IMO (won't even mention that damned Pentax) and although it doesn't have the attraction of the Fuji's optical finder it has something else that sets it aside from the bunch ... style I think they call it.

If the image quality is up there I couldn't care less about the sensor size provided the lenses are matched to the sensor's output.
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I voted no. I have no need for an amateur camera.
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Pretty? It's ugly. The prism housing, for the prism it doesn't have, looks bigger than my film OMs. I'll be sticking with Fuji.
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Its the best looking m4/3 camera, I like the weather seals. But, I need to see the production samples and user reviews first.
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I voted no. I have no need for an amateur camera.
Same here. More overpriced small sensor amateur crap. Olympus OM gear (the real OM gear, the kind that used OM lenses) was my intro to serious photography when I was 11 years old. When they dropped the OM-4T instead of moving the system forward in the 1990s, they lost me as a customer. I still shoot my old gear, but when I went digital, I went to Nikon and later to Canon. Not looking back.
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It's very pretty, but digital is not for me, if it was, then I'm not sure m43 is the way I'd want to go, too big a crop factor on M lenses.
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i think it's pretty nice but no.
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I'm waiting til they come out with a day glow green OM-D.
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Old 02-10-2012   #13
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The 5-axis in body image stabilization sounds pretty exciting. I'd love to see it in a larger format sensor, like an APS-C. I think Leica should do something similar.

As far as the OM-D is concerned, no. It looks great and all but I prefer Ricoh for my digital photo needs. The GXR M is my jam.
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I'm getting one. In my bag small-sensored "amateur" m43 crap lives very comfortably alongside my full-framed "professional" crap and medium format film crap. I find m43 quite capable and if there's a camera that's always with me I say it's one of the Olympuses...

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Maybe. I want to see and feel it for myself and see how it performs at 3200 and 6400.

I'd be weighing OM-D, 12/2 and 25/1.4 vs X Pro 1, 18/2 and 35/1.4

m43 kit is definitely cheaper, probably superior AF, maybe superior EVF
XP1 will probably perform better at high ISOs, I like the slightly larger size, I like the viewfinder on the left-hand side and the OVF is a nice option to have
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I quite like it but... I have all the digital I want for now and I have got quite bored of using it. I have an EP1 and its a good camera for reasonable sized enlargements, I like it and am sure if given one I would use the new one. But I am doing all my serious work on film now, it is giving me what I want/see so money will be spent on film and paper etc.
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To answer the first questions
1. Don't know how good/bad this camera is yet
2. Combination of what is presented is swaying me
3. Depends on how the evf/ibis/splashproof is implemented, but I am keeping optimistic
4. Understanding that there is no such thing as a dream camera I am perfectly content with this m43 iteration

Was always looking for an acceptable alternative to a large dslr. I get fairly sick of carrying one around especially with flash and even just one other lens, takes up my entire bag.

I was pretty excited looking at the nex7 as well as the xpro1. At the end of the day (today at least), I placed a preorder for the e-m5 just because the features (to me) are fairly polarized in comparison to my current dslr. These features such as big fast lens vs small fast lens or scared to touch water vs splash away.

Dislike the whole sensor size talk. I've been out with a gf1 here and there with the 20 1.7 and I was generally pleased with the performance. Maybe I don't fully understand people's complaints.
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Same here. More overpriced small sensor amateur crap. Olympus OM gear (the real OM gear, the kind that used OM lenses) was my intro to serious photography when I was 11 years old. When they dropped the OM-4T instead of moving the system forward in the 1990s, they lost me as a customer. I still shoot my old gear, but when I went digital, I went to Nikon and later to Canon. Not looking back.


What is your problem that you feel the need to put down whatever doesn't personally interest you?

The amateurs out there are what keeps photography alive and keeps the companies that actually make the pro gear in business ... get of your friggin' high horse!
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As I understand it, 'the fake prism' is useful space - the new IS system and EVF take up too much room in the body without the hump.
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It isn't sufficiently better than my Panasonic G3 to buy the new Olympus. However, the Fuji X-Pro 1 does seem like a significant advance. I pre-ordered one.
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I voted no. I have no need for an amateur camera.
It's not the camera that makes the amateur.

My pal at Magnum uses the 4/3rds Olympus stuff. I guess he is an amateur.
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What is your problem that you feel the need to put down whatever doesn't personally interest you?

The amateurs out there are what keeps photography alive and keeps the companies that actually make the pro gear in business ... get of your friggin' high horse!
I only said it because I knew it would make you stamp your feet and cry.
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I'm getting one. In my bag small-sensored "amateur" m43 crap lives very comfortably alongside my full-framed "professional" crap and medium format film crap. I find m43 quite capable and if there's a camera that's always with me I say it's one of the Olympuses...
hear hear! all the "amateur crap" people can think whatever the hell they want, atleast the rest of us know better.

that said, hell yeah i want an OM-D. it will replace my E-P2... eventually. right now i'm really craving full frame digital, so the E-P2 will remain my portable camera for now.
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There is a lot of things to like with the new OM-D.

Is it good enough for you?
Is it enough to sway you from your previous bias towards the smaller sensor? (smaller, not tiny)
Is it just another pretty body without substance?
Is it the answer to your dream?

Vote and chime up.

YES
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I shoot m4/3, have been for over 2 years
NO, It has a ton of substance.
For the moment
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I only said it because I knew it would make you stamp your feet and cry.

I just don't get why cameras have to be separated into professional or amateur in their intention in your world Chris.

I shoot professionally with a full frame digital but couldn't really care less what the credentials of any other camera I care to pick up may be if it gets the job done on a professional or strictly casual/recreational level.
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I'm ensconced in M glass and digital rangefinders and the GXR at the moment, but I've been back and forth to m4/3 a few times over the years and I always liked the system. If they chose the E-1 to emulate with this design, complete with a tough crinkle-coated magnesium alloy body, I'd be more excited. But I'm not that taken with the look of the OM-D, the center hump seems (especially from the back) like a ziggurat with a few too many levels, it's too angular, I never liked the OM-4 anyway. But nonetheless it's an intriguing camera, probably way more likely I'll someday end up with one as opposed to the X-1 Pro, and overall...I'm very happy with this move by Olympus even if I'm not jumping in at the moment. It's a strong move by Olympus. Now let's see if the camera can actually clear the high bar they set for it.
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While we're still at page 2, let me remind you guys of the proper way of saying that the OM-D is an amateur camera...

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I voted no. I have no need for an amateur camera.
The proper way

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Same here. More overpriced small sensor amateur crap.
Just flaming.
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I'm tempted :
I just can't get to grips with trying to manual focus Leica M lenses on the GXR's EVF.
Single shot AF and just using an EVF for framing may be the way forward.

So maybe it's time to upgrade the EP1 and sell the GXR.
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To the poll: none of the above. I pre-ordered the X-Pro1. I have an E-P1, and the biggest disappointment on it is the lack of viewfinder (no optional EVF).

Had Fuji not released and X-Pro1, I might upgrade to the E-M5, but even then, what's the point compared to my 5DMkII.

Don't get me wrong, I believe this is a decent camera. It might not be for everbody.
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This year, I am concentrating on film. Still have over 90 rolls to go.

I have DSLRs that take my Zuiko lenses, when the need for digital arises, so there's not a pressing need for a new camera body.

However, when the bugs get worked out on the OM-D (there's always bugs in new products), and if the owner reviews are positive, then I'll take a look and see if it will provide me with something that I don't currently have. The 5-axis stabilization looks to be the most promising in that regard. Or, maybe wait for the E-M5Ti.
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I applaud Olympus for providing their loyal customers with a great camera. The weather/dust sealing is impressive. I know I would enjoy the retro look.

I tried m4/3 for a year and was was disappointed with the results. I sold everything.

I am patiently waiting for my X Pro 1 to arrive to pair with my X100.
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Pretty? It's ugly. The prism housing, for the prism it doesn't have, looks bigger than my film OMs. I'll be sticking with Fuji.
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People seem very quick to condemn Olympus and praise Fuji here for their separately motivated styling exercises.

What is the problem with the faux prism housing of the OMD harking back to their own early OM series. Fuji made their X100 look so much like a Leica M from certain angles that it's uncanny and we all applauded them. The X-pro is constantly being compared to the M9 in it's dimensions and we seem happy with that too!

Cut them some slack here and accept that like everyone else they are trying to sell cameras and style (love it or hate it) is a part of their approach.
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1. Is it good enough for you? YES
2. Is it enough to sway you from your previous bias towards the smaller sensor? (smaller, not tiny) MAY BE
3. Is it just another pretty body without substance? NO
4. Is it the answer to your dream? NO *)

*) = I never owned OM SLR and I went away from other SLR bodies to RF (or alike) cameras. Therefore the SLR reminiscence doesn't affect me.
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I voted no. Everything about the camera seems right though. But I don't think I need to start a new system. I've even curbed my GAS for a OM-4T for the past month, but tomorrow is a different day .
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Had Fuji not released and X-Pro1, I might upgrade to the E-M5, but even then, what's the point compared to my 5DMkII.
Sometimes I don't want to hump 35lbs of gear on my back up into the mountains. And as I get older, it becomes more common. (Although I've got next Sunday pencilled in to lug the RB-67 kit back in the hills again.)

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Im hoping it will be a huge success,Nikon pays attention, then comes oUt with a digital FM2!
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It's not the camera that makes the amateur.

My pal at Magnum uses the 4/3rds Olympus stuff. I guess he is an amateur.
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It's not the camera that makes the amateur.

My pal at Magnum uses the 4/3rds Olympus stuff. I guess he is an amateur.
You're right, it's not the camera that makes someone pro or amateur. An amateur with a D3s is no more an amateur than an amateur with a point and shoot.

That being said, your pal at Magnum might be a professional, but he's still using an amateur camera. It's not insulting, it's just the truth. It is you calling him an amateur (in jest) not me. I never called anyone an amateur, just a camera.

I don't understand why people get so defensive about a camera.

I own a holga - that's a hipster camera, but I'm not a hipster.
I own a couple small sensor cameras - they're all amateur cameras, but I'm not an amateur.

Do comments like that really offend?
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