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It strikes me that there are at least two ways to view consensus in RFF. One is that it's a load of boring old farts, set in their ways, with no imagination, regurgitating received wisdom. The other is that it's people with a lot of experience in what actually works.
Of course it's no novelty when a Young Turk challenges the boring old farts, and sometimes, of course, the Young Turks are right. But when I really start paying attention is when the boring old farts start to disagree with one another... Cheers, R.
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Well, when there is consensus there is little to enjoy as preaching to the converted results in threads of a slightly saccharine nature; and like you said challenges to this consensus offer little impact to those sure footed BOF's who have worked hard to make their ways known.
It seems to be new products that get everyone riled up! "BOF no more!" Or "BOF 'til the Leica disintegrates from overuse, which surely will not happen; can't happen!" These are the threads that are slightly more revealing- certainly more entertaining. Revealing in that consensus on things is hard to come by!
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sometimes the right answer is not always the answer to write.
sometimes the old pros need to remain in the shadow and sometimes they need to sit in the warm sunshine. consensus is over valued.... as any old pro knows. Casey |
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Sometimes a generally accepted consensus is no longer entirely valid and needs to be modified in light of change. A consensus is not a dogmatic rule to be applied for eternity. Consensus is harder to reach now because changes come at a more rapid pace than ever before. Inevitably today's Young Turks will be tomorrows BOFs.
Bob
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The older I get, the more I believe that consensus is overrated.
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What I find slightly irritating is that quite a number of contributors (and maybe the young Turks are slightly ahead in this but by no means exclusively) advance their opinions with absolute surety - and then you find that, well, they have never actually owned or used that piece of equipment, or been to that place, or tried that process. But they sure know all about it. Or do they?
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I think consensus IS overrated - at least that is what EVERYBODY says!!!!
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I think a certain level of dissent amongst the established 'old farts' as you refer to them is very healthy Roger and for me far too much of their lack of 'consensus' gets moderated out around here!
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Leigh: hard to argue with that. It sometimes seems that the degree of certainty is inversely proportional to knowledge of the subject. I do not exclude myself, but I'm trying to learn.
Ian: elegant! Robert: elegant again! Keith: As I say, it's when the OFs start disagreeing that I really start paying attention. Cheers, R.
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Maybe I haven't been spending enough time here, but the atmosphere has always seemed pretty collegial. Roger, with your frequent postings you may be more of a target than some. For my part, I have always found your writing worth my time to read.
Now I challenge any other old fart to disagree!
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consensus on RFF?
where?
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Seems we're all in agreement then.
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Damn. Now it's just like that Star Trek Episode where Norman the Android blows his circuits because everyone agrees that no one agrees.
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I rest my case.
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