Originally Posted by NickTrop
One thing I'll nevah change though is my leftist/socialist political views. Of that you can be certain.
It's my belief that most people are actually conservatives; they just don't know it. Keeping in mind that thatherist corporitism is actually laissez-faire liberal economics and quite unconservative have a look at these for the real thing:
and most outrageously (a popes encyclical from 100 years ago):
I can't imagine you are freethinking enough to read that but it would be interesting to see your opinion.
Conservatism and communism have nearly identical goals: the happy peasant, but with a nod to hierarchy and tradition (those accomodations learned over the ages).
However if you don't believe in free-will then socialism is fairly logical really. It is a command and control structure that emphasies the community over the individual (if the 'I' is just a delusion of a collection of brain cells then that's quite reaosnable). Liberalism is the opposite: emphasising personal rights over the community by confusing freewill with freedom.
True conservatism, which neither Republicans nor the UK's Torys have, is all about "a community of free individuals"; a sort of balance: living in harmony with and for each other
A typical socialist structure is the military, or a large corporation (socialism in microcosm): a nice irony. Thatcher has a lot to answer for. So does Bush. There is no one to vote for.