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View Poll Results: For how many of your B&W shoot do you use B&W filters?
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80% - 100%
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19.30% |
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50% - 80%
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17.10% |
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25% - 50%
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13.24% |
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10% - 25%
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less then 10%
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17.28% |
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I never use them
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10.11% |
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I don't own any
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10-16-2009
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#51
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j_fletcher is offline
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ND filters about 50% of the time. Red filter sometimes, hardly ever now though.
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11-29-2009
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#52
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Shooter of Film...
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I've had this 25A fitler for a long, long time but never got around to using it until last week...I really liked the results with the clouds in the background...
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11-29-2009
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#53
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Chriscrawfordphoto is offline
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I have a collection of the colored filters for BW but honestly never use them. I had never bothered using filters all my life and last year I spent the money to buy a set of them to fit my Hasselblad and have never seen the need for them. I should try them though
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11-29-2009
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#54
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I use either a Hoya orange "G" (actually more of a dark yellow) or a B+W 040 (which really is orange). I tried a red filter but apart from losing some light I could barely tell the difference from the either of the yellow/orange filters on Tri-X so it went back in the box. Both the G and the 040 make a very noticeable difference to outdoor scenes with foliage or blue sky.
While there is a lot of advice floating around about filter factors I have not found it necessary to add more than 1/3 stop with either the G or 040, using cameras with TTL metering (despite what the M6 manual says). After some controlled testing, now I don't bother and just shoot the film "straight up" at its rated ISO.
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11-29-2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ssmc
I use either a Hoya orange "G" (actually more of a dark yellow) or a B+W 040 (which really is orange). I tried a red filter but apart from losing some light I could barely tell the difference from the either of the yellow/orange filters on Tri-X so it went back in the box. Both the G and the 040 make a very noticeable difference to outdoor scenes with foliage or blue sky.
While there is a lot of advice floating around about filter factors I have not found it necessary to add more than 1/3 stop with either the G or 040, using cameras with TTL metering (despite what the M6 manual says). After some controlled testing, now I don't bother and just shoot the film "straight up" at its rated ISO.
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Filter factors that come in the instructions for filters assume use of a handheld meter, not a TTL meter that is reading through the filters. TTL meters do pretty good with most filters at automatically giving he correct increase, but some colors, like red, need a little more exposure than the TTL meter looking through the filter will say.
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03-19-2010
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#56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chriscrawfordphoto
Filter factors that come in the instructions for filters assume use of a handheld meter, not a TTL meter that is reading through the filters. TTL meters do pretty good with most filters at automatically giving he correct increase, but some colors, like red, need a little more exposure than the TTL meter looking through the filter will say.
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That is good information, Chris. I've had that experience but never realized what was going on; thanks.
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03-19-2010
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#57
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Yes, agree with Chris on the red... the meters tend to be a bit more sensitive to red than the typical B&W film, so will deliver underexposure in red/orange light or with TTL metering through red or orange filters.
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I use a duplicate filter on the spotmeter |
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02-07-2011
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I use a duplicate filter on the spotmeter
I typically put the same type of filter on my Pentax spot meter that I am using on the camera (Fuji 6x9), that way I have not needed to worry about filter factors.
If I use a filter on my ga645zi, which does not meter through the filter, I first measure the filter by taking several readings with the Pentax spot meter with and without the filter in the same type of lighting conditions I want to shoot in. I then using the weighted (by judgment call) difference in the readings as my filter factor for the ga645zi by reducing the ISO setting the appropriate amount.
My Nikon FM & FE meter through the filter and usually get the exposure right.
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would cokin p filters do as well as screw-ins? |
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02-07-2011
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#59
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reubelim is offline
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would cokin p filters do as well as screw-ins?
Just bought several colored p filters since I have various-sized lenses in different formats, and waiting on them to arrive via post.
Any input would be appreciated,
Cheers!
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02-07-2011
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I voted 10-25% but it completely depends on what I am shooting. If I am just out walking around and shooting quickly, I don't use filters. If I am looking and studying things more closely I will sometime use filters to separate some of the color/gray tones that would otherwise blend too closely. If you shoot in color and are converting to b&w, you can do this on Photoshop or Lightroom or other editing programs. I use yellow, orange and red. Jim
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02-07-2011
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I'm seeing double!
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I have yellow and orange and red filters too. But I rarely use the yellow or orange ones, because I always get more of what I'm after with the red ones. Lately I prefer 29 to my old stand by, 25.
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03-13-2011
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I use a Light Red, Dark Red, Light Yellow, an Orange, and occasionally a Green. About 30-40% of the time I use a contrast filter
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03-14-2011
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I always use filters. 
orange / yellow / red / green
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03-29-2011
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AJShepherd is offline
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Red filter, yellow filter...
I'm a big fan of shooting Ilford HP5+ with a red filter for the high contrast I get from that combo. I usually use the yellow filter only when I'm shooting slower films.
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07-13-2011
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Only for landscapes.
I find the orange to be the right emphasis of the sky without being unnatural like the red.
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07-13-2011
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With some films yellow makes little difference, except for losing a stop of film speed. With Acros it really makes clouds stand out. Red is a bit OTT for my liking and pretty much blacks out any grass and foliage, so it's best saved for artchitecture.
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07-31-2011
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qu'est-ce que c'est?
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Yes, I often use yellow or red filters for B&W.
But, I don't need it for my Canon FD 35mm f2 (Thorium) lens. It's already yellow-ish, and I get plenty of contrast with it.
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08-08-2011
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Medium yellow nearly always.
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08-14-2011
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I use only ND/GND/C.Pol filters, but as long i started to shoot film i should try those color filters, i have Yellow but didn't use it yet, i had Red filter in the past but that was for digital and for P-series size which i never use anymore and sold the holder [hope to sold the filters as well], but i am not sure if yellow will serve me better or i have to add more filters and test them!!!
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09-15-2011
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folks, maybe this is a stupid question, but when some of you say yellow/green, do you mean stacking them together? will doing this achieve both the effect of each filter when put on separately?
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09-15-2011
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#71
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David Hughes is offline
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Hi,
Nothing wrong with the question and the answer is that some firms make/made a yellowish green filter, as well as green and yellow filters.
Regards, David
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09-15-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stip80
folks, maybe this is a stupid question, but when some of you say yellow/green, do you mean stacking them together? will doing this achieve both the effect of each filter when put on separately?
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In my case I have a yellow-green filter. It darkens the sky a bit and lightens the foliage a bit.
These days I only shoot 35mm with a SLR and use less filters than I did with rangefinders. This is because SLR lenses have more contrast to begin with and I don't like to focus on an orange landscape ;-)
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09-18-2011
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I have two lenses ZM 35/2 and 50/2, and I leave a yellow filter on each unless I need a different filter. I also have an orange, yellow-green, and red filter, and I use those if I need more contrast.
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09-18-2011
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#74
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I shot about 70% film, and of the film about 80-90 % is b/w.
On my M6 is a 022 B+W yellow filter, that I hardly ever take off and that works great. Sometimes orange and red, but then I use an external lightmeter.
My Contax T3 has a B+W orange filter on (fixed exposure correction, works great).
Last edited by Peter_S : 09-18-2011 at 13:19.
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09-18-2011
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#75
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In the middle of the day, yellow K2 some of the time. But I tend not to like to shoot in the middle of the day - and there's rarely any point in using a yellow filter in the morning or evening except if it is hazy.
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