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07-28-2005
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Film is the other way
jan normandale is offline
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Hi egpj
what a wonderful endorsement for UPS. Not!! I was thinking of matting and clipping them to 'simple glass and masonite clip frames' not now. I am thinking that I will just roll them into a tube and hopefully my swap partner will too. Obviously your print is creased, the mat is toast and your time effort and goodwill are spoiled by the courier that you paid a premium for service not rendered.
You should send them the photos and ask for a credit to re print and mat again at their cost this time.
Jan
am I being cranky?
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07-28-2005
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50 Summilux is da DEVIL!
egpj is offline
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You are not near as cranky as I am right now but after I have these next 2 Blue Moon's I will almost be as mellow as you. Cheers!
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Photographers work I am interested in: Jon Kral; HCB the portraits
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07-29-2005
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NE Florida
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Originally Posted by egpj
Just read the email Doug. OK, I need some help from the experts. I took the print to one of those UPS stores to get the "best service" so that nothing would get screwed up. Now look at those pictures. How do I send a 16x20 across the US and have it arrive in pristine condition?
Glenn
PS: I need a beer!
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It may be hard to believe, but I think the US mail would have been a better option. Cheaper to boot.
UPS is known for mangling things with their package handling machines. Most of the stuff I get via UPS look like it was drug here behind the truck. I have had MUCH better luck with the Postal Service. Both the prints I sent in this swap were mounted on foam board and merely sandwiched between two pieces of cardboard. One went to Japan and one to a US address. Both arrived in good shape.
Tom
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07-29-2005
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#54
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Exploring darkness
Marc Jutras is offline
Join Date: Jun 2004
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I think that anything larger than 9x12" should be in a tube. I don't trust courrier companies to take good care of my packages. I think they don't care about "fragile", "photo: don't bend" and other warning labels since almost all packages have at least one. They just throw the stuff around, probably with a shovel!
I'm glad Rudi got my print in good condition. I guess masonite is courrier-proof enough. It would have been pretty ridiculous to get a crease in a 8x12" piece of masonite. Imagine the rest of the cargo!
BTW, I thought we were supposed to send one print only. I know it was discussed earlier to send two but thought in the end, it was brought back to one.
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07-29-2005
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alansoon is offline
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Tom's packing was top notch. His photo arrived in good shape.
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07-29-2005
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ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ moderator
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well, i just emailed my tif file to the lab.
i hope this one works out ok.
i have had 3 prints made so far and all have had some form of 'pilot error', either formatting or horrible spots etc.
i think this is the one!
soon roman, soon...
joe
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07-29-2005
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T_om is offline
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Originally Posted by Marc Jutras
BTW, I thought we were supposed to send one print only. I know it was discussed earlier to send two but thought in the end, it was brought back to one.
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Marc,
Since we ended up with an odd number of participants, I volunteered to fill in for the "missing" person so I was actually paired with two people, Alan and Rick. So I sent two photos, one to each of them.
Another poster in the thread mentioned sending two shots also, but I believe he sent both to his swap partner. Not sure exactly why, but there was no 'rule' against sending more than one.
Tom
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07-30-2005
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Just live it.
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Originally Posted by T_om
Another poster in the thread mentioned sending two shots also, but I believe he sent both to his swap partner. Not sure exactly why, but there was no 'rule' against sending more than one.
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Indeed, Tetrisattack sent me two prints. Both of them lovely. I'll move house in a few months and these prints might end up on my walls.
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07-30-2005
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I don't know my own mind
24x30 is offline
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Marc asked me about the camera I used for my print, the Polaroid 600 ...
how it looks like with a 120film magazine on the back. The image with the
'photographer' is to show the size of it.
/rudi
Last edited by 24x30 : 07-30-2005 at 06:11.
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07-30-2005
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#60
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Film is the other way
jan normandale is offline
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Originally Posted by 24x30
Marc asked me about the camera I used for my print, the Polaroid 600 ...
how it looks like with a 120film magazine on the back. The last image is
to show the size of it.
/rudi
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Rudi , Nice self portrait, you are awfully young and talented... joke ;-)
Jan
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07-30-2005
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I don't know my own mind
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Originally Posted by jan normandale
Rudi , Nice self portrait, you are awfully young and talented... joke ;-)
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No, I just have a good mirror ;-)
/rudi
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07-30-2005
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Maximum Creativity!
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Hey all, I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers by sending out 2 prints. They were fun to make and cheap in time and material cost so I figured I'd make the postage to holland worthwhile by sending a bonus.
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08-04-2005
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Roman is offline
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OK, since Joe told me that he has already received my prints, it's time to post my pic of what I sent to him (actually, those are the 'work prints'), and the cameras that took the pictures (I sent the two extras because he wanted something from where I live, and I was not to sure whether he'd like the 'Chair & shadows' pic).
Roman
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08-04-2005
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ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ moderator
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and i need to say that they arrived intact and un bent!
the chair pic is simply fabulous!
the texture in the concrete and the shadows have such depth in the print.
it's obvious that roman spends quality time in the darkroom.
and the other 2 prints were a very nice surprise as well. it is such a treat to be in contact with people from all over the globe and to see where they come from in print is an added bonus.
thanks roman,
joe
joe
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08-04-2005
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Doug is offline
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Nice looking selection, Roman!
The swap print from egpj arrived safely today, snug within its styrofoam padding. It's in perfect condition, unlike the first disaster. My own print, returned to the lab for rework, has yet to be delivered to me. Sorry, Glenn, for the delay!
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08-04-2005
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#66
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50 Summilux is da DEVIL!
egpj is offline
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Oh cool! That is OK. I had my own comedy of errors to go through getting your print to you. How did you like that jpg print I made from the email you sent me? I removed the color cast out of the file they sent you and I rather liked it.
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Glenn
Photographers work I am interested in: Jon Kral; HCB the portraits
Equipment I am using: 2 MP's an MP3 and some lenses
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08-04-2005
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50 Summilux is da DEVIL!
egpj is offline
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Hey Doug, you don't live close to Portland, Oregon? I will be out there on the 14th of this month. I arrive on the evening of the 13th then soend a day before I start driving down along the coast with family. If you do live close then maybe I can correct the grievous error of no signature on the print. Pardon my anxiousness again for wanting to get that print out to you and neglecting that very important detail.
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Glenn
Photographers work I am interested in: Jon Kral; HCB the portraits
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08-04-2005
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Originally Posted by egpj
How did you like that jpg print I made from the email you sent me? I removed the color cast out of the file they sent you and I rather liked it.
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Hi! I had to go back and dig through the peanuts some more to find the smaller print... Looks surprsingly good from such a low resolution jpg, but then that photo doesn't depend strongly on fine detail.
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Hey Doug, you don't live close to Portland, Oregon?
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"Close" is a relative term, but in this context a 5-hour drive (in a direction opposite from your subsequent travel) isn't reasonably close! Too bad... Have a great vacation drive and I hope you capture a lot of great photos.
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08-04-2005
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50 Summilux is da DEVIL!
egpj is offline
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Yeah but really the only place I saw any breakdown was the interface between the mountains and the sky. That is where it got a little jagged. Everything else seems very sharp. I love the Epson R2400!
Shucks man! I was hoping you'd be close then I could sign that thing for you. If you still have the other then you could cut off the paper part I signed on it. You could just say the artist lacks class. Dooohhh! 
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Photographers work I am interested in: Jon Kral; HCB the portraits
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08-04-2005
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50 Summilux is da DEVIL!
egpj is offline
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Originally Posted by Doug
Have a great vacation drive and I hope you capture a lot of great photos.
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Thanks, will try to take a bunch. But I have the feeling that everything is going to be very rush, rush. Reserving the rental cars tonight though and it has come together very well so far. Hope the weather cooperates.
Your exchange of money concepts I saw on your gallery have stuck with me and it might lead me into something new. Just been mulling them around in my head and wondering how they will influence my shots. 
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Photographers work I am interested in: Jon Kral; HCB the portraits
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08-06-2005
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#71
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Film is the other way
jan normandale is offline
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I have just received my prints from my ‘trade’ partner gabrielma. I am a lucky boy. Gabriels shots are wonderful.
It’s funny how these events work out. Each of us looks at the work of the subscribers to the thread and subconsciously or not, thinks who they would like to trade with as a partner. There were a lot of potential partners, and like others in this thread, I had some of the ‘usual’ preconceived ideas about whose work I liked.
When paired with gabrielma, I went back and thought; ‘what did his work look like?’ He was obviously not who I had thought about getting paired with. But…. when I looked closely I realized what a great photographer I was paired with. We wrote, fumbled around on coordinating and finally got off the ground.
I have received my print(s) and I’m knocked out. These will definitely not go on some shelf and get dusty. They are going into a ‘high traffic’ location in our apartment. I know people will stop and look, I will too.
Thanks Gabriel, hope you like yours.
Jan
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08-06-2005
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Jan, pithy comments! I think that's a large part of the value of a swap like this. It's likely all of us have photos that most others can "learn to love". And reason to look more closely at the work of at least one other who might not have drawn your eye initially. We can learn from this, and grow better.
We can also learn about our part of the process! Getting the image printed satisfactorily... mounting/matting, packing securely and shipping... All of these can be challenges especially if it's something we don't commonly do.
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08-06-2005
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#73
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Doug is offline
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Originally Posted by egpj
Your exchange of money concepts I saw on your gallery have stuck with me and it might lead me into something new. Just been mulling them around in my head and wondering how they will influence my shots. 
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Thanks, Glenn! An example of what Jan mentioned, I think... In fact your grouping them like that makes me consider them anew. I never really considered that a specific project, just part of the "people at work" stuff. But there's certainly something interesting about the exchange of cash for goods... You've helped me now in pondering that, and I may pursue it more specifically.
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08-07-2005
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#74
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I don't know my own mind
24x30 is offline
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I'm feeling worse every day, because my roll hasn't reached Marc till today ...
Got everybody else his print already?
/rudi
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08-07-2005
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#75
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Doug is offline
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Well, Rudi, not quite EVERYbody... I received Glenn's, but he hasn't received mine.  In fact it just came in from the lab today and went directly to the frame shop for matting. Then I'll pack it securely in Glenn's box and ship it off, but that's some days away yet. Don't feel bad!
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