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Old 04-27-2009   #1
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Show your photos from a vintage folder

I got a folder bug again, so it's time to dust off my Weltur and put it to some good use. So, how about some inspiration - would be nice to see some pics.
Here is mine, from Welta Weltur. Not a very recent, but just to get this thread started:

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Here's one of mine, taken with an Agfa Isolette II, Solinar 3.5


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This is mine, it is from my First Six folder.

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Great Photos! Looking at these I wonder why old folders are so underrated. One more from Weltur with Xenar 2.8:
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From an Agfa Isolette V with Agnar 4,5/85mm
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Isolette III with Solinar 4,5/85mm. Lens, rangefinder and housing moved to a Isolette II body with intact bellows.
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Old folders are ideal for landscapes, and a little bit fiddly for people photography.

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Here's one of mine, taken with an Agfa Isolette II, Solinar 3.5


Really like this shot!
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Brad - I love the Iskra shots. - Keep'em coming, folks.
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Here's a recent shot from my Iskra with Ektar 100.

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Here's one of Cannon Street station and railway bridge over the Thames in London. Taken with an Agfa Billy Record II on Ilford PanF+ dev in Rodinal.

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Great photos here! Here is one more from Weltur:
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One from a Welta 6x4.5 w/ Tessar, one from Agfa Isolette w/ Solinar, one from Agfa Isolette w/ Apotar
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Two cropped images taken with an Iskra 2 with Fujichrome Velvia 50 can be seen here:
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Note the detail on the head of the peacock. The resolution I get from the Iskra 2 vastly exceeds my results from a Moskva 5 (not shown on Flickr site).
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I don't know about you guys, but don't these images have some type of cool resoultion or depth to them that sets them apart from DSLR cameras. They seem so life-like to me and almost 3D. I am going to be getting some ektar back from walmart that was taken with my Suzuki Press Van Camera. Will post.
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I don't know about you guys, but don't these images have some type of cool resoultion or depth to them that sets them apart from DSLR cameras. They seem so life-like to me and almost 3D. I am going to be getting some ektar back from walmart that was taken with my Suzuki Press Van Camera. Will post.
Yep, it's a different look - which does seem to have more depth even at infinity.

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Great, some fabulous images here. I think I like Petronius' (is that from William S.?) Agnar the best so far. My First Six is a lens with 'Issues' as they say, but I still like it.
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1934 Super Ikonta C (6x9) 10.5 cm f4.5 Tessar. Film was maybe Fuji superia 400

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532 Super Ikonta A with f3.5 tessar and Velvia 100
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I guess a tessar could do better in terms of sharpness........or is this a large crop?
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Ron and Chippy, I think the lens needs collimnation or there is a film flatness problem, it's such a great camera I might have to cough up the bucks and have it done.

Also the uncoated lens may be a little strange with Velvia slide film. As you know the Tessar is a very sharp sharp lens. You can see it in the previous giant Buddha photo I posted.

Still I sort of like the soft focus and weird colors in the cityscape.
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More from my Zeiss Ikon Nettar with Novar 75mm f6.3 lens




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I don't know about you guys, but don't these images have some type of cool resoultion or depth to them that sets them apart from DSLR cameras. They seem so life-like to me and almost 3D. I am going to be getting some ektar back from walmart that was taken with my Suzuki Press Van Camera. Will post.
I think that is probably due to more precise focusing. Typically, rangefinders do better than SLRs and DSLRs with normal and wide angle lenses when it comes to focusing. Also, the lenses, being of a non-retrofocus design, tend to be a little sharper with normal focal lengths and a LOT sharper with wide angle lenses.

You see, an SLR has got to use retrofocus lenses (lenses that can focus an image past the mirror box); this requires more lens elements and puts them at an immediate disadvantage (more elements = less sharp).

Another reason rangefinders can do better, aside from not having to deal with the extra added elements of a retrofocus lens, have to do with the SLR's fudge factor and magnification. A rangefinder focuses precisely, due to the focusing system being based on triangulation instead of an SLR's "now it looks fuzzy and now it doesn't" focusing system. The thing is, with an SLR, there is a range of focus where the image looks sharp through the viewfinder; unfortunately, this means that just because the image looks sharp through the viewfinder, it doesn't necessarily mean the prints will look sharp (the focus can look sharp and still be a little off). This problem is exacerbated when you put a wide angle lens on an SLR, since the subject looks smaller. It becomes more difficult to focus sharply simply because you can't see it as well. A rangefinder doesn't have this problem.

SLRs and DSLRs only really come into their own when you put telephoto lenses on them. With a telephoto lens, the image is magnified enough that an SLR's "now it looks fuzzy and now it doesn't" system works pretty well. You get a closer look at the subject and can better judge the sharpness of the focus with a telephoto, while a rangefinder's triangulation focusing system requires a broader and broader baseline to be accurate at long ranges. Since there is no way of accomplishing this on a conventional rangefinder, eventually, with enough magnification and distance, an SLR's focusing system begins to work better than a rangefinder's.

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