S-t-r-e-e-t

emraphoto · 10-22-2010

http://www.bjp-online.com/british-jo...et-photography

ebino · 10-22-2010

His decisive moments are so "decisive" they look staged.

http://www.mattstuart.com/

eddie1960 · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebino

His decisive moments are so "decisive" they look staged.

http://www.mattstuart.com/

got to agree with you
particularly a lot of the colour ones

london is a great city for street shots and definitely some of these would be easy to capture there but many of them look posed

ebino · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie1960

got to agree with you
particularly a lot of the colour ones

london is a great city for street shots and definitely some of these would be easy to capture there but many of them look posed

had some of his photos were b&w the whole "decisive aspect" of it won't be as effective as with color. thats what i hate about color. you could just play with colors and make the picture look interesting. where as with b&w everything has to work together like music.

andredossantos · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebino

you could just play with colors and make the picture look interesting. where as with b&w everything has to work together like music.

Yup, making a good color photo is just that easy

Then again why bother shooting in color since it will never be "music" like B&W?

ebino · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by andredossantos

Yup, making a good color photo is just that easy

Then again why bother shooting in color since it will never be "music" like B&W?

Make a subject wear a red coat. After that stand him/her against a drab and colorless background, or a dark cloudy sky, or any background that would contrast strongly with red. You have a great color photo.

varjag · 10-22-2010

Just because his photos are good doesn't mean they are posed.

He's clear that his commissioned work is set-up. None of the other shots need to be posed.

ebino · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by varjag

Just because his photos are good doesn't mean they are posed.

He's clear that his commissioned work is set-up. None of the other shots need to be posed.

its not posed, it looks posed. thats the tricky part.

varjag · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebino

its not posed, it looks posed. thats the tricky part.

I don't know, there's nothing in them that seems implausible for a practicing street shooter. Life is full of surprises, one just gotta have a camera ready.

emraphoto · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by varjag

I don't know, there's nothing in them that seems implausible for a practicing street shooter. Life is full of surprises, one just gotta have a camera ready.

i agree. if you are looking in the right direction and you are also patient, you'll see them.

jsrockit · 10-22-2010

Great stuff...

dcsang · 10-22-2010

Thanks for the link John.

Stuart's photos and his interview seem to suggest that he's an "honest" street photographer.

I like him.

Cheers,
Dave

ebino · 10-22-2010

some of the most famous photos in history of photography were staged.

Capa's The Falling Republican Soldier
Doisneau's, The Kiss
Weegee's The Critic (poor woman making critical face at two rich ladies)
Eugene's smith, The Wake and Tomoko Uemura in Her Bath.

and many more... photography is not an honest medium.

Pablito · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebino

some of the most famous photos in history of photography were staged.

Capa's The Falling Republican Soldier
Doisneau's, The Kiss
Weegee's The Critic (poor woman making critical face at two rich ladies)
Eugene's smith, The Wake and Tomoko Uemura in Her Bath.

and many more... photography is not an honest medium.

Simplistic statements are....simplistic.

ebino · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by photomoof

All great photography looks posed. It is the nature of perfection.

I hate to say this but I don't think Ansel Adams could have staged storm clouds.

back alley · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebino

I hate to say this but I don't think Ansel Adams could have staged storm clouds.

of course, not everyone thinks a.a. was all that great...

emraphoto · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by back alley

of course, not everyone thinks a.a. was all that great...

great? indeed. do i fall asleep looking at that sort of stuff? indeed.

semilog · 10-26-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by back alley

of course, not everyone thinks a.a. was all that great...

That was not the question.

-1 for bashing Adams out-of-turn.

back alley · 10-26-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by semilog

That was not the question.

-1 for bashing Adams out-of-turn.

i take it you like a.a.?

semilog · 10-26-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by back alley

i take it you like a.a.?

Irrelevant. The discussion was about photos that are set-ups* (or not).

And for the record, yes. I like some of his work quite a lot.** I think he was an important landscape photographer, though more important for his teaching and still more important his contribution to saving some of the world's natural treasures.

*Keeping things on-topic, A.A. certainly had his share of both pre- and post-production set-ups, probably a lot more, even adjusted for output, than Matt Stuart's street work.

**Not more than the work of Cunningham or Frank or Koudelka or Kertesz or Singh or Strand. But I don't like my work, or probably yours, that much either. And that's not an insult.

back alley · 10-22-2010

very interesting...some nice shots there...one camera, one lens, no bag...

DNG · 10-26-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by back alley

very interesting...some nice shots there...one camera, one lens, no bag...

That reminds me.... about a diary entry

jsrockit · 10-22-2010

One could argue that color is harder to use...

gravityassault · 10-22-2010

I really enjoyed his photos and I find the critique of them a bit misguided and smacking of envy. They perhaps look posed as a result of a good deal of patience on his part...or maybe he just raised the camera at the right moment. Either way, he was there.

I think the negative comments against his work are a bit rich coming from members of a forum that is filled with images of cats, lawn chairs and brick walls.

And I disagree completely that they lose something due to the fact that they are in color. When I was a press photographer in Washington, DC and we had the White House Press Photographers Association annual image contest, the running joke was that you could take any image convert it to Black & White and win an award with it.

Everyone has their opinions but the negativity kinda got to me today. I hope everyone has a terrific weekend.

emraphoto · 10-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravityassault

I really enjoyed his photos and I find the critique of them a bit misguided and smacking of envy. They perhaps look posed as a result of a good deal of patience on his part...or maybe he just raised the camera at the right moment. Either way, he was there.

I think the negative comments against his work are a bit rich coming from members of a forum that is filled with images of cats, lawn chairs and brick walls.

And I disagree completely that they lose something due to the fact that they are in color. When I was a press photographer in Washington, DC and we had the White House Press Photographers Association annual image contest, the running joke was that you could take any image convert it to Black & White and win an award with it.

Everyone has their opinions but the negativity kinda got to me today. I hope everyone has a terrific weekend.

it happens to the most of us on occasion.

color is just another way of going at it. some excel at it, some pontificate.