E Pee One, A Poll, are You In or Out?

[rover]

Ok, we have debated the little guy for a couple weeks now. As with anything, some people like it, some don't, nobody is wrong. What do you think, are you in our not? Not asking for the same discussions all over again, just yes or no and simple why if you would like.

Me, I am a definite maybe. I was a definite no just a couple weeks ago, so I am warming to the idea. Not perfect, but I don't know how much will be improved in the near future. I am over the lack of viewfinder, I think the low Res LCD is a silly stumped toe for Oly. I am hopeful that the AF is better than the initial hands on reports state. I want to see some hands on real reviews to make a final decision.

How about you?

[__hh]

I'll be in once the price drops

[Tuolumne]

Poor autofocus, poor LCD - I am out. Besides, once you have a G1 (i do), what do you need this for?

/T

[Tuolumne]

Originally Posted by nikonhswebmaster

Because it is smaller, and has image stabilization. As for the AF and LCD, seems unlikely they would be worse than the G1 -- what make you believe it is so "poor?"

I would like to have a EVF, but I am willing to do without for now. You can't spend your life waiting for the perfect camera. And I wish is was black, but apparently it is not.

It will have a decent resale for awhile, so I do not see it as a big deal to get one now. The body will probably cost me $300 for the year or so I own it.

The G1 has a great LCD and great auto-focus. I'm just echoing everything I've read about the Olympus: Poor LCD and poor AF. Could be everything I've read is wrong, but this poll is here now, so I'm answering it now. The only major advantage I see for the Olympus is in-camera IS. That is very nice, but not nice enough that I can't wait for another iteration or two to get the right product. Or not, in which case I'll just keep using my G1. And as far as size goes, if I can't drop it into my shirt pocket (sport shirt pocket) the size is irrelevant. It's not a "pocketable" camera for me.

/T

[digitalintrigue]

It's too early to judge the LCD or the focus. I hope to test one with various lenses tomorrow and will get a much better idea on these and other points.

[rover]

Originally Posted by digitalintrigue

It's too early to judge the LCD or the focus. I hope to test one with various lenses tomorrow and will get a much better idea on these and other points.

if you do please share your impressions.

[BillBingham2]

Where's the Primes!

B2 (;->

[Larky]

I heard the autofocus was good, is it not? I'll have to change my vote if it's poor.

[back alley]

for the money i would rather buy the panasonic 7-14 lens.

this oly with lens ( & finder) wont be all that pocketable really.

and i have actually been using a g1 and love it.

[Tuolumne]

Originally Posted by back alley

for the money i would rather buy the panasonic 7-14 lens.

this oly with lens wont be all that pocketable really.

and i have actually been using a g1 and love it.

This was my thinking, too. Enough with churning camera bodies. I'm putting my money into lenses that actually take the picture.

/T

[maddoc]

A digital (gadget) "camera" in a fency Pen F dress...

[Pickett Wilson]

The DPreview article says its AF system is more in line with P&S performance and not as good as the G1.

[dazedgonebye]

Originally Posted by Pickett Wilson

The DPreview article says its AF system is more in line with P&S performance and not as good as the G1.

Let's hope not. That might just kill it deader than dead.

[Rayt]

I want to put it in my pants like that guy in Spinal Tap.

[Gabriel M.A.]

Originally Posted by Rayt

I want to put it in my pants like that guy in Spinal Tap.

LOL


::thumbs up::

[deepwhite]

I already placed an order, and hope that I can get it ASAP.

Why I'm buying one:


[A Small All-In-One DSLR] - I mainly shoot with RFs, wide-angle and 50mm. I want an all-in-one 2nd camera for tele + zoom, and video recording.

I tried the E-P1 last week. Its size is right for my Angenieux 35-140, which will become 70-280 on the E-P1, perfect as my 2nd cam. The 720P video looks good; the sound of the video, however, really surprised me, as I didn't expect sound quality this good from a camera.

There is a margin for everything. For me (a small guy), the size of the E-P1 is right within the margin of my definition for a "small camera".


[Decent MF / I Don't Care About AF] - I don't think I'll be using the kit lenses anyway, as decent as they felt like with my limited experience with them.

I mounted my Summilux 35/1.4 preA on the E-P1. The MF is easier than I thought, and I got not problem focusing it with my eyes staring at the LCD.


[Not To Use the M Lenses or Replace the R-D1s] - I've been very satisfied with the R-D1s, and I'm not planning to use the M lense on the 2x crop E-P1. One thing I'm very interested is to see what a "Nocti-video" is like, but that's probably it. As I said, I'm buying the E-P1 mainly for MF tele-zoom lenses.


Something came in and now I forgot what I was going to say.... I'll just leave them in another reply when they came back to my head.

[Colman]

I mounted my Summilux 35/1.4 preA on the E-P1. The MF is easier than I thought, and I got not problem focusing it with my eyes staring at the LCD.

Can you describe the process of focusing with a manual lens?

[deepwhite]

Originally Posted by Colman

Can you describe the process of focusing with a manual lens?

I only got to play with it for 2 minutes (there was a long long line), so I just watched the LCD and turned the focus tab til I thought it was focused. I went home and checked the photo and found it ok (but I deleted it cause it's a bad shot...). I didn't try the "magnifying while focusing" feature as I have with the Panasonic L1.

[mfunnell]

I'm in the "maybe" camp. The lack of an integrated optical viewfinder is the main reason for hesitation (aside from lack of available funds, which a whole 'nother thing). The lack of an EVF means little to me as I hate the things (and, yes, I've looked through the EVF of a Panasonic G1, which in the things that matter to me is little better than other EVFs I've used). The 17/2.8 (or, perhaps, the promised Panasonic 20/1.7) with external finder might work for me. But it is too much money for "might". While it may be a personal thing, an optical viewfinder is a must for me, and I might be better off with the smallest of the Oly SLRs and their 25/2.8 pancake lens. (Though that has its unattractive features as well.)

I think I might sit this round out, and just keep using my film cameras (what a concept!) in the role I see the EP-1 filling.

...Mike

[f16sunshine]

No chance!
The only reason for me to get one of the M4/3 cams is to use L/M lenses with a EVF. To be able to focus off the sensor with the camera to my eye. The lack of a finder has lost me. If the Samsung NX has too long a flange distance for RF lenses, I'll take a Pany and make it a portrait cam. Otherwise it's the NX with it's 50% larger sensor and all the things those larger pixels bring to the table.

[dazedgonebye]

Originally Posted by f16sunshine

No chance!
The only reason for me to get one of the M4/3 cams is to use L/M lenses with a EVF. To be able to focus off the sensor with the camera to my eye. The lack of a finder has lost me. If the Samsung NX has too long a flange distance for RF lenses, I'll take a Pany and make it a portrait cam. Otherwise it's the NX with it's 50% larger sensor and all the things those larger pixels bring to the table.

I too will be waiting for the NX...not so much because the E-P1 or G1 is a fail, but more because I'm not ready for this camera at this time. (I want a mamiya 7 next)
By the time I'm ready, all good options should be on the table and I can decide.
It's all very encouraging though.

[Al Patterson]

I'm also in the "maybe" camp. I'd like to see what Panasonic does with this type of concept, or see what Olympus does for their next version.

I'm also looking for a black version, but I do like the looks of the silver/black version of this one.

[Joe Leung]

A firm NO without a EVF. But I must say I like the design of the body very much. I am sure Olympus can surely put a removable EVF like the one on the Ricoh GX200. Until then, I'll keep on carrying with my R-D1 around.

[majid]

I have one on preorder from Amazon (with the 17mm), as an upgrade from a DP2 (lovely sensor but poor high-ISO and sloooow). I don't really care about the interchangeable lens that much, what I really want is a digital Contax T3, not a digital CL. I am happy with the DP2 LCD so the E-P1 should not be an issue, and it isn't realistic to expect an OVF in an interchangeable lens camera.

My main concern is that the 17mm pancake may have too many optical compromises (hopefully the chromatic aberration can be corrected in DxO or ACR). Then again, I can switch to the Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 whenever it leaves vaporware status, or use my VC 35mm f/2.5 Skopar PII (I have already ordered the mount adapter from Stephen Gandy).

The G1/GH1 were not an option - too bulky to fit in a jacket pocket. The E-P1 with 17mm shouldn't be much larger than the DP2.

[Avotius]

Where is the "maybe, it comes up a hair short on my list"

on my list for a small camera like this I dont care about a viewfinder but.....no flash??? The screen is also a little let down but not a deal breaker but with no flash and if the AF is really that bad then no, I cant put up with the slow autofocus on my GRD and always have it in snap mode, the panasonic g1 was fine here but this has to be as good as or I may pass it up.