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04-13-2008
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Head Bartender
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What new Voigtlander RF or SLR product would you like to see?
OK, everyone seems to want a digital Bessa, but that is probably not close.
Besides the Digital Bessa, what NEW Voigtlander rangefinder or SLR lens would you like to see?
Cosina IS watching.
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04-13-2008
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coco frío
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50mm f1.2 in M-mount for under $500

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04-13-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablito
50mm f1.2 in M-mount
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Yes - except in LTM.
Actually - I'd like to see more of their new lens offerings still in LTM. But alas, I doubt that will happen.
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04-13-2008
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How about a Bessa R5 with RF/VF set up for 50, 90, 135mm lenses? To accompany the R4. And to go with it an LTM 135mm lens. Needn't be especially fast.
Or something really wild: a pellix(sp?) mirror , ahem, SLR able to use most LTM and M mount lenses. Not sure if that's really possible but if the mirror doesn't have to swing out of the way, I'd think the flange to film distance could be shorter.
Rob
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08-28-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbiemer
How about a Bessa R5 with RF/VF set up for 50, 90, 135mm lenses? To accompany the R4. And to go with it an LTM 135mm lens. Needn't be especially fast.
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Rob
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Great idea. I'll take two!  
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04-13-2008
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télémétrique argentique
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What about a 21mm metal brightline viewfinder similar to the existing 28mm and 35mm versions? (And optionally a 21mm f/2.8 lens to go with it).
Thanks
Vincent
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04-13-2008
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More Deadly
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincentbenoit
What about a 21mm metal brightline viewfinder similar to the existing 28mm and 35mm versions? (And optionally a 21mm f/2.8 lens to go with it).
Thanks
Vincent
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I'll second both of those!
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04-13-2008
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A fast rangefinder coupled wide angle lens in M mount, 18mm f2.8, 21mm f2.8 or 25mm f2.8
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04-13-2008
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The Nokton 50/1.5 in M-mount and MUCH better built body.
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08-13-2010
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RF user by conviction
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horosu
The Nokton 50/1.5 in M-mount and MUCH better built body.
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Seconded. The M-mount part at least - don't know about the body of the LTM version as I never handled one.
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11-27-2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horosu
The Nokton 50/1.5 in M-mount and MUCH better built body.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avotius
Maybe a 50 1.5 redone in M mount ...)
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Yes! 50/1.5 in M mount, at least as good as the discontinued LTM version.
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04-13-2008
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The "Bessa RX": a Bessa M-mount RF body with a zoom viewfinder and electronically controlled brightlines. Zoom viewfinder: either discrete or continuous viewfinder magnification control. Continuous would be wonderful for determining the ratio of visibility inside vs. outside the brightlines, and for improving visibility for glasses wearers. Electronically controlled brightlines: a single parallax corrected brightline is displayed, selectable for any focal length from 15 to 135 mm, limited only by what's actually visible at the current VF magnification.
If they make it, I'd *love* a trip to Japan to meet Kobayashi-san and the Cosina engineering team. ;-)
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04-13-2008
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Speak of the Devil
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I would like a faster alternative to to the 75 Color Heliar, a 75mm f1.4 for around $500 would find a large niche in the RF world as the only current options are the CV 75 Heliar ($300) 75 Summarit ($1495), 75 Cron ($2995), and 75 Summilux ($5000).
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04-13-2008
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the foggiest
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#1) Right now my options for a 15mm are the 350$ CV 15 f4.5 or the 4,000$ Zeiss 15 f2.8. It would be very nice to have faster than the CV and cheaper than the Zeiss (like a 15mm 1.4 for 400$
#2) A fast, fixed lens, small rangefinder with AE, manual a TTL metering. Or a compact Bessa R2/3/4/a/m
Here's a few things that I like and dislike about current CV products:
Like:
- 1:1 viewfinder R3A
- AE on the R*A is accurate, and very easy to use
- Well-priced items
- On a superficial note, I love the look of the R*A cameras and the 40mm 1.4, 35mm 1.4, and 35mm pII
Dislike:
- No AE on the Bessa L
- Bessa L meter only up to ISO 1600
- Meter in the R3a is impossible to read
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04-13-2008
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M:
50mm 1.0 for under $1200, or 1.2 for under $1000.
75mm 1.4.
SLR:
Nokton 50mm 1.5 in Canon EF mount (with AF).
I'll not hold my breath, though.
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04-13-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CK Dexter Haven
M:
SLR:
Nokton 50mm 1.5 in Canon EF mount (with AF).
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Actually, even though it's officially Zeiss, I'd changes this to a C-Sonnar 50/1.5. Mmmm.... I'd do many unspeakable things for this - E mount (i.e. no AF ) would be fine too
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04-13-2008
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*) classic tessar-style 45mm lens
*) a fast lens in an unusual FL, like a 55 or 60/1.2 (with the unusual FL, it wouldn't conflict with the existing product lines of other makers)
*) a "generic" styled RF body (all black, with no lettering whatsoever and perhaps a fixed lens...)
*) a retake on the Leica Thambar: a portrait lens that is romantic and dreamy rather than sharp
*) a single VF that covers 21-25-28, or at least 21 and 28
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03-11-2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by noimmunity
*) *) a retake on the Leica Thambar: a portrait lens that is romantic and dreamy rather than sharp
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Sounds like something I would certainly be interested in.
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03-20-2010
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Olympus E-M5/Nikon FE
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Still want a fast 90mm... newer than the Canon 85/2
A 90/2.5 APO Lanther "M" Mount. With a short focus -- 135 degrees from INF to 3 feet.
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05-26-2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CK Dexter Haven
M:
50mm 1.0 for under $1200, or 1.2 for under $1000.
75mm 1.4.
SLR:
Nokton 50mm 1.5 in Canon EF mount (with AF).
I'll not hold my breath, though.
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I was SO close!
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06-09-2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CK Dexter Haven
I was SO close!
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Indeed you were !!
I'd like to see the reintroduction of the double shoe accessory, this time with a real hot shoe contact over the slide-in side. Black color would be nice too.
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Leica 35mm 1.4 Summilux Aspherical + ASPH, 90mm 2.8 Tele-Elmarit VC 15mm 4.5 Heliar Asph, 28mm 1.9 Ultron Asph, 35mm 1.2 Nokton Asph, 40mm 1.4 Nokton SC, 50mm Nokton 1.5 Asph, 75mm 2.5 Heliar Contax G2 28mm 2.8 Biogon, 45mm 2.0 Planar, 90mm 2.8 Sonnar Minolta 40mm 2.0 Rokkor
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06-09-2009
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Rainbow Bridge
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Something like this...
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Leica 35mm 1.4 Summilux Aspherical + ASPH, 90mm 2.8 Tele-Elmarit VC 15mm 4.5 Heliar Asph, 28mm 1.9 Ultron Asph, 35mm 1.2 Nokton Asph, 40mm 1.4 Nokton SC, 50mm Nokton 1.5 Asph, 75mm 2.5 Heliar Contax G2 28mm 2.8 Biogon, 45mm 2.0 Planar, 90mm 2.8 Sonnar Minolta 40mm 2.0 Rokkor
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04-13-2008
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Skeptic
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Solve the strap lug problem. Find a way to move the lugs so that the camera doesn't hang at that wierd angle when the wonderful, light-weight Voigtlander lenses are mounted. Its not right that we have to solve the problem by adding a side grip or trigger winder.
H.B.: Thanks for putting this thread up for consideration. 
Last edited by Jamie Pillers : 04-13-2008 at 21:22.
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08-22-2008
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Speaking Frankly
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie Pillers
Solve the strap lug problem. Find a way to move the lugs so that the camera doesn't hang at that wierd angle when the wonderful, light-weight Voigtlander lenses are mounted. Its not right that we have to solve the problem by adding a side grip or trigger winder.
H.B.: Thanks for putting this thread up for consideration. 
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The solution is simple: use a rotating stainless steel fishing lure attachments (cheap) available even at Walmart. Select the heaviest "pound-test" you think you will need (the camera is only a couple of pounds at most). I had been using this method for 30 years.
Regarding what I like to see in CV products:
A small 70 or 75mm lens to pair up with the 35/1.4 or 40/1.4, f2 or even f2.8 is fine...makes a perfect travelling couple.
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08-25-2008
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Speaking Frankly
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankie
A small 70 or 75mm lens to pair up with the 35/1.4 or 40/1.4, f2 or even f2.8 is fine...makes a perfect travelling couple.
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An additional thought:
A lens focal length extender would also be useful: - A 1.4X Extender turns a 35mm into a 50mm; or a 50mm into a 70mm...or
- A 2X turns a 35mm into a 70mm; or a 28mm into a 56mm; or a 40mm into a 80mm.
Many CV cameras use manual frame-line selector anyway and would not need to worry about automatic coupling.
I am not trying to save money, just bulk.
Such a small device slips into a pocket, just like my Nikon TC-14A...one camera/lens around my neck, one hockey puck size lens Extender in my pant pocket.
OR
A bi- or tri-focal length lens:
35-70mm
28-40-60mm...
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