Would You Ever Pose . . .

Poptart · 11-25-2005

nude for photgraphs? What would the circumstances have to be? Are you comfortable with nudity? Why or why not? Have you ever shot nudes? What was your experience? What do you think is your "comfort zone"?
Just a general curiosity because I think we photogs are more voyeurs than exhibitionists, but perhaps I'm wrong.

11-25-2005

I have posed for my girlfriend when I was young(er), and she posed for me. But then she was in the "Best of Cheri," and I was just nuts.

Byuphoto · 11-25-2005

no nudes but I did do some Bike and babe calendar shoots and some Hooters girl studio shots.

back alley · 11-25-2005

i've never posed exactly but there is that video floating around out there...

joe

captainslack · 11-25-2005

Sure. Why not. I'd probably break the camera lens, but that would be someone else's problem.

bmattock · 11-25-2005

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Would you ever post nude for photgraphs?

Sure. I doubt anyone would want me to. I know I wouldn't.

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What would the circumstances have to be?

Couple of beers.

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Are you comfortable with nudity?

Depends on whose.

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Why or why not?

Because some people look better with clothes on. Like me.

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Have you ever shot nudes?

Sure.

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What was your experience?

Which time? Mostly, it was for friends. When I was younger, it was for my own, ah, gratification.

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What do you think is your "comfort zone"?

Everything makes me uncomfortable, so no real difference.

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Just a general curiosity because I think we photogs are more voyeurs than exhibitionists, but perhaps I'm wrong.

No, I'm quite a flasher. Most people wish I would stop. I really should.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

John Robertson · 11-25-2005

Not without a health warning for others. I once said to a friend that I had the body of a 20yr old, she replied, "well iron it and hand it back, as youv'e made a hell of a mess of it!!"

My avtar shows the dogs reaction!!!

dostacos · 11-25-2005

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Originally Posted by Poptart

nude for photgraphs? What would the circumstances have to be? Are you comfortable with nudity? Why or why not? Have you ever shot nudes? What was your experience? What do you think is your "comfort zone"?
Just a general curiosity because I think we photogs are more voyeurs than exhibitionists, but perhaps I'm wrong.

welllllllllllllllllllll since I am seriously,morbidly undertall anything under 3 mil and the cloths DON'T come off

egpj · 11-25-2005

I can't do the nude thing. I can not pose because I just do not like being in front of the camera. I can not take pictures of women in the nude because I always end up knowing them.... in the biblical sense. A nude woman in front of me, that is just what is supposed to happen. It is hard wired into my brain. I should be more professional. Dang, now I am mad at myself. I don't like this thread. I have only taken one shot of a woman naked. Here it is attached. No frontal nudity though.

egpj · 11-25-2005

Hey, this reminds me of something else. A friend of mine takes pictures for a website called Suicidegirls.com It is a bunch of girls that have post messages online or something like that. Anyway their hook is that they are mostly goth and kind of freaky. Anyway, he does not have any problem taking nude shots and does it all the time. His website is www.fieldsandfieldsofwheat.com I might ask him this question tomorrow when I head into Orlando. I do remember when I asked him about model releases he told me, "Only to make sure I get the model release when shooting nudes!"

cp_ste.croix · 11-25-2005

sure i'd do it, but in about another 10 lbs or so...it's my secret ambition to be a mens underwear model

FrankS · 11-25-2005

Thank you, Bill!

bmattock · 11-25-2005

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Thank you, Bill!

You're welcome! What for?

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

FrankS · 11-25-2005

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You're welcome! What for?

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

For post #6. I laughed out loud and had to explain to my wife why.

bmattock · 11-25-2005

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For post #6. I laughed out loud and had to explain to my wife why.

Happy to do my part. My wife once asked me if I'd ever consider posing nude, and I said sure, why not, I don't really like people anyway - serves 'em right.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

StuartR · 11-25-2005

My body is too beautiful to be revealed willy-nilly. It's kind of like an Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark thing...

I am not opposed to shooting nudes though. I just haven't.

John Robertson · 11-25-2005

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My body is too beautiful to be revealed willy-nilly. It's kind of like an Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark thing...

I am not opposed to shooting nudes though. I just haven't.

Just don't expose your "willy-nilly" Stuart

unohuu · 11-27-2005

i would in the right circumstances

artistic rather than exploitive

appropriate lighting

no semi or actual porn poses

i like the human form as an objet d'art

dmr · 11-27-2005

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"Do you know the difference between art and pornography? Pornography is in focus." Linda Hunt in The Year of Living Dangerously

It seems like pornography is one of the most sought after products there is. It is literally the product that people will beat a path to your doorstep and beg to buy.

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artistic rather than exploitive

Exploitive, that's the word I was looking for to say where I draw the line between what's ok and what's not ok. Hey, I'm no prude and I've been around the block a few times.

However, I do have a problem with that which is demeaning or degrading.

You've got to admit that a lot of what we call porn is demeaning, either directly to those posing/acting/whatever or to society (to women, mostly) in general.

You see those disclaimers such as "no cats were harmed shooting this commercial" and such. You really can't say that about porn.

But again (devil's advocate mode) I can think of serious art or even reportage that's demeaning or degrading ...

bmattock · 11-27-2005

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It seems like pornography is one of the most sought after products there is. It is literally the product that people will beat a path to your doorstep and beg to buy.

I like porn.

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Exploitive, that's the word I was looking for to say where I draw the line between what's ok and what's not ok. Hey, I'm no prude and I've been around the block a few times.

However, I do have a problem with that which is demeaning or degrading.

You want to know what's demeaning and degrading? Me at my day job, that's what.

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You've got to admit that a lot of what we call porn is demeaning, either directly to those posing/acting/whatever or to society (to women, mostly) in general.

I don't have to admit it.

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You see those disclaimers such as "no cats were harmed shooting this commercial" and such. You really can't say that about porn.

That must that kitty porn I keep hearing about.

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But again (devil's advocate mode) I can think of serious art or even reportage that's demeaning or degrading ...

If it doesn't push buttons, it is just a pretty picture. Or so they say.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

dmr · 11-25-2005

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nude for photgraphs?

Oh wow, I can see this being a long and well-read thread.

But to answer the question, no I would not.

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What would the circumstances have to be?

None, that's not my style. I'm shy enough being in front of the camera fully clothed!

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Are you comfortable with nudity? Why or why not?

Actually, I am, quite, under the right circumstances. I just don't think it's something I want to share commercially or even have floating around out of my control.

I do know some people who did at times have nude (or worse) photos or videos taken and had them turn up under the most embarrassing circumstances.

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Have you ever shot nudes?

Not really. Well, to make a long story long ... What I did once was do some "audition" shots for some girlfriends of mine who answered one of those "Models wanted, 18-22" or something like that. This was back in college and they asked me to just do a couple of what I might call "cheesecake" shots of them because they didn't feel like auditioning in person. This was back in college (undergrad) and they were both hired for some lingerie and bikini type shoots. They really were not paid that much, but (yeah, I knew it was coming) they were told that they would make a lot more for showing more skin and such, which they both declined.

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What was your experience?

Well, as the brief career as the "glamour photographer"

I just posed them in a springtime garden which actually adjoined an alley, but the results were nice. These were B&W. What kinda shocked me was that the one photographer they posed for asked them to ask me if I would be interested in making $$$ taking photos like that. I declined. Both of them quit shortly after.

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What do you think is your "comfort zone"?

Well, I really think of myself as being very openminded and comfortable in most situations. I could see myself shooting artistic nudes maybe, but I want to keep my distance as far as I can from the "Adult Industry", not that I'm a prude, far from it, I just don't want to be any part of that scene.

I could actually see myself doing fashion/runway photography, perhaps in another life yet to come, but I really don't have any desire to -- let's see how I can put this -- take photos intended more to arouse than to entertain or inform.

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Just a general curiosity because I think we photogs are more voyeurs than exhibitionists, but perhaps I'm wrong.

I would agree, but I would add that I think it's more than just the sociosexual roles of voyeur and exhibitionist.

I'm far more comfortable behind the lens than in front of it, under any circumstances. I have a feeling many photographers are too.

I've always been interested in photography, but never really in modeling. When I was younger I was always told that I should be a hand model, but I never pursued it.

But I was gonna say that it's almost exclusively guys doing the shooting for glamour/nude work, but then I remember a book I read years ago, and it was actually somewhat dated then, by Bunny Yeager (sp?) who was most definitely an exhibitionist as well as a photographer.

Oh well, it's gonna be interesting to see how this thread develops.

FrankS · 11-25-2005

I'm far more comfortable behind the lens than in front of it, under any circumstances. I have a feeling many photographers are too.

My signature at APUG (which I don't frequent that much after finding RFF) is: "Preferring to be on the shiny" (base, not emulsion) "side of the film."

vincentbenoit · 11-27-2005

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"Preferring to be on the shiny" (base, not emulsion) "side of the film."

"The shiny side of the film"... That's good!
Cheers
Vincent

jano · 11-25-2005

I'm with Chris on this one.. but I need to gain about 30 more pounds. Some day, I, too, shall be an underwear model!

nwcanonman · 11-25-2005

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I'm with Chris on this one.. but I need to gain about 30 more pounds. Some day, I, too, shall be an underwear model!

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Jano,
You can gladly have 30 of mine.