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Black paint S3 for restoration or parts
Old 07-02-2012   #1
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Black paint S3 for restoration or parts

Just spotted this on the big auction site (no connection to the seller):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...m=261056325629


There is a rather strange story to explain why these parts are missing :

"The front plate and back door with base plate were sent to a camera painter/restorer who never returned these two items to our consigner who was in the process of restoring this camera. So, he was left with the body as you see it here missing these pieces."



I don't have my Rotoloni book with me to check if the serial number 6302636 is genuine factory black. If it is, chances are that this camera may now get a donor front plate and back-with-base-plate from another S3, possibly from a chrome one, gets repainted and presented as a fully original factory black paint.



Also I see rather strange brassing patterns at the sides of the top plate. But somehow at the present price point it would still make an interesting project for a nice black user S3.
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Old 07-02-2012   #2
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It looks like the top plate was stripped of paint on the sides but not the top. The visible brass also looks like it may have been chemically darkened but that may just be the lighting.

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Old 07-02-2012   #3
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If I could get it at a reasonable price, I'd grab it and repaint a chrome front plate so I could have another black body for my own use.
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Black s3
Old 07-02-2012   #4
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Black s3

I was the first bidder at $99

It is too early a number to be original black paint .
Rotoloni book shows black later numbers .

Still if purchased low enough price ------- good user body
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Old 07-03-2012   #5
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Jan..John and other...6302636 is a fake one....
first black S3 knowed is 6307453.
i'm the owner of 34° black S3 6307487........
so my advice is don't offer more of 500 usd, probably is a good shooter but not an interesting or collector camera.
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forget....
Old 07-03-2012   #6
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forget....

for the guy that will win the bid..... i will offer only 200 usd
i have a really good black S3 Back
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Old 07-06-2012   #7
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Thank you all for your input. So it is a fake after all : probably the paint started to wear off and it was in the process of getting repainted.

8 bids and 219.50 USD so far, 13 hours to go. This will be interesting to watch.

There is nothing wrong in my book when it comes to painting a chrome camera black, as long as it doesn't get presented as original black.

Question : can current black repaint match the quality and durability of the factory black finish ? I hear there are several painters in Japan that do quite a good job.
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"can current black repaint match the quality and durability of the factory black finish"

only if you have paint that was made in the 1950's.
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Quote:
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only if you have paint that was made in the 1950's.
Well, maybe I wasn't specific enough. What I meant to say was that if going through the whole process of stripping a chrome camera of its chrome layer and have it professionally painted, would we come close to what Nikon achieved at the factory back in the 1950's ?

Taking into account of course that the black batches were made from the start to be black and no dechroming was ever involved at the Nikon factory.

I don't think Nikon used 1950's paint on the S3 2002 and SP 2005.
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The seller is selling it as an original black paint S3.
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The seller is selling it as an original black paint S3.
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He describes it as a "rare black paint Nikon rangefinder S-3 body".
It is certainly an ambiguous way to describe it, "black repaint" would be closer to the truth. Describing it as rare is misleading indeed, and this one isn't even complete.
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That was the most strangest bidding I've seen on ebay, first it's $350.00
then it drop to $208.00 then zoomed back up to $380.00, I looked at the
bidding page and a lot of bidders removed their bids because they considered
it a fake, well someone wanted it.

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